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PostSep 07, 2011#1451

From RFT blog...
Airport Commission to Vote on China Hub Today
Yesterday in Jefferson City, legislators meeting in a special session took up the controversial topic of providing $360 million in tax credits to subsidize a trade hub with China at Lambert Field.

"St. Louis Aerotropolis" is what backers of the idea call their project, which they say will lead to thousands of local jobs and make the region a key trade destination with China. "Errortropolis" is what state Sen. Jason Crowell (R - Cape Girardeau) called the plan yesterday during debate inside the Capitol that will continue today.

Meanwhile, we're told the St. Louis Airport Commission will also meet this afternoon to vote on whether to approve a space permit, operating agreement and lease agreement with China Cargo Airlines as part of the deal. Look for an update on that matter later today on Daily RFT.

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PostSep 07, 2011#1452

This is incredibly exciting, and very fluid.

General updates that I've read on a number of sources...
- Senator Chuck Purgason, R-Caulfield, has introduced the China Hub legislation to the Missouri Legislature.
It is on right now.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... bills.html
- The STL Biz Journal reports that he's put forward the original legislation of the compromised economic development package. This is imporant as the compromised legislation is what Governor Nixon expected before he'd call a Special Legislative Session. Also, it's seen as the most likely form of the legislation to succeed.
Note: The Biz Journal's reporting negated a previously reported story by the Post-Dispatch that Sen. Purgason was writing a whole new piece of legislation that he'd submit today. Not that the P-D was fully wrong, but they reported a change possible that didn't materialize. (Still, the P-D's reporting is coming off as a little bit defeatist ... "Peril" already?)
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... bbbde.html
- Senator Jason Crowell, R-Cape Girardeau, is positioning himself as Opponent #1 to the China Hub. Word is he's planning to filibuster the legislation. He's already working to stall it by questioning before the bill's introduction on whether or not the Special Legislative Session, now convened, should be convened in the first place. What an arsehole.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-and- ... b0258.html
- Therefore, the MO Senate is getting to vote on the China Hub legislation before the House, which is highly unusual, to help make sure that any attempt to run out the clock is negated by making him do his "last stand" at the very start of the session. Big props to the leadership of both the House and the Senate, and to the cooperation of Dems and GOPers in the majority seeing this important piece of economic development through.
- Opposition from the Left, meanwhile, is focused on how the Economic Development Package (the big legislation) comes at the cost of supplemental monies to the elderly & physically handicapped who rent homes. And while not wanting to sound callous or indifferent to their plight, I did read an article (I now can't find) where reps from the Governor's office said that the original intent of such credits were for a temporary relief, and questioning whether or not the original purpose was still there or if these people are just getting freely doled-out monies from the State coffers.
- Mayor Slay and a team of delegates are heading to Beijing and Shanghai this weekend to complete negotiations with their counterparties in China. This includes the COO of Emerson, an RCGA rep, and attorney Steve Stone.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/colu ... f6878.html

I'm reminded of the old expression of how watching Legislation get passed is like watching Sausages being made...

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PostSep 07, 2011#1453

GC, maybe some supporters are needed in Jeff City before going to Bejing. Add Stlbeacon article and its emphasize on changes already being proposed.

http://www.stlbeacon.org/voices/blogs/p ... opposition

In the meantime, it would be nice to see Lambert board approve the agreement this afternoon.

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PostSep 07, 2011#1454

I cringe at the misguided voices in the Beacon piece:

"Let's just say 'No' to private subsidies for economic development!" - so says the man from St. Charles. I'm guessing he means subsidies for private economic development.

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PostSep 07, 2011#1455

I'm extremely confident that the Lambert Board will approve. They've been pushing this the whole time, haven't they?

I HOPE that the tax credits get approved. If they don't, Mr. Crowell needs to be fired.

A decade after the death of TWA, we've been graciously gifted with a second chance at being a major player in world affairs. We sure as hell better take it.

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PostSep 07, 2011#1456

Alex, it's funny considering the Wal-Mart which the St. Charles man shops at -- and almost probably every other private business in his area -- benefits from public subsidies. I will take the advise of a common man from St. Charles on subsidy the day he moves to North St. Louis and witness daily the wonderful results that a lack of public subsidy brings.

I've corresponded at length with Senator Crowell regarding the HTC. He's insane if that definition fits a person unable to comprehend logic or respond to facts. Hopefully this moves forward. Unlike W1W it's not a situation where we would be losing money if private investment doesn't arrive as planned.

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PostSep 07, 2011#1457

Keep the faith...

Right now, politicians are looking at the various blowhard opposition groups with a major thought echoing in mind... "Will they vote for me the next time around?" And, "How important is it that they vote for me the next time around?" Looking at the bunch of these people, like that one guy Alex points out can't even phrase his argument cogently, and it's assuring that the political handlers out there are smart enought to realize that you can't please all the people all the time, and some are so bat-winged sharthoused that they don't want them associating with their candidate.

Look at that picture in the Beacon article...

You take a fringe political action committee that buses a room full of blue hairs barely cognizant of what day it is, putting them in folding chairs at the steps to the state rotunda, and quid pro quo using them as a prop to promote how much subsidy you want a private developer of elderly care apartments in an economically challenged urban environment, so the developer gets the "the HUD faucet, the money faucet" turned on (i.e.: Steve Stogel, what MD Senator Clay Davis said to Russell "Stringer" Bell), and in the process attempting to derail the jobs of the next generation of voters ... that's political suicide, if not simply damnable abuse of the elderly.

Someguy: I bet you dollars to donuts that the MO GOP is not going to support Crowell come re-election for crapping all over a pro-business bill, written by GOP Senator Schmidt, and in a GOP-dominated bicameral legislature.

Doug: Agree on both counts, that the guy from the Chuck doesn't understand the word "subsidy", and that Senator Crowell really is out there. I'd phrase him as "dingbat arsehole", but I don't want to put words in your mouth...

Parliamentary process: The "Facebook" Student/Teacher law has made it through the Senate so far. Looks like the hold-up Crowell tried earlier isn't stopping everything...

STL Biz Journal: Full debate starts tonight at 730PM
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... rting.html

Post-Dispatch still hanging on to "Perilous" story, even though Senator Purgason hasn't submitted a revised bill as they forecast.

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PostSep 08, 2011#1458

I doubt that the airport commission vote is anything but symbolic. Considering that Chad Garrison has done nothing but find reasons to trash the hub, it’s my sense that he only wrote about the vote in order to make the initiative seem even more controversial. I now just ignore the RFT when I look for updates. In fact, for the most part, I now only pay attention to the P-D, The Beacon, and The American when it comes to learning about China hub developments. It used to be fun to read the SMI, but I just can’t stomach it anymore.

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PostSep 08, 2011#1459

gone corporate wrote:Keep the faith...


Post-Dispatch still hanging on to "Perilous" story, even though Senator Purgason hasn't submitted a revised bill as they forecast.
This is the revised Purgason bill. Submitted earlier today.

http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/BTS_Web ... ID=4696923

The level of "peril" in which this places the broader package depends, I guess, on how determined you think Purgason really is to see it through. But it certainly has the potential to throw a wrench in things.

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PostSep 08, 2011#1460

I'm in awe of the civil and informative conversation here on the forum. Nowhere else, nowhere else, will you find a factual and honest discussion on this particular subject. Huge tip of the hat to fellow forum members. This bodes well for the future, regardless of Aerotropolis outcome.

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PostSep 08, 2011#1461

Noticed this fluff piece about Michael Webber in the KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/07/31 ... vesty.html


This guy has benefited as much as anyone from the China hub bill. Absolutely nothing popped up several months ago when I first googled him, but he has recently managed to attract the attention of pretty much every major news outlet in Missouri. He even has the KC Star writing fluff pieces about him and his family! The amount of publicity he has received would cost a fortune if he tried to obtain this level of exposure through commercial advertizing. Very well played.
It’s also interesting that he lives in Kansas. I just find it kind of odd that he cares so much about a relatively low risk initiative being debated in another state. It’s the equivalent of a St. Louisan obsessing over an Illinois tax credit plan designed to benefit Chicago.

This can't be good:
http://205.186.131.189/voices/blogs/pol ... opposition

I hate to say it, but despite the KC Star's depiction of Michael Webber nobly fighting Goliath, I'm not feeling too confident about this passing. Anyone have any insights beyond what was mentioned in the Beacon article?

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PostSep 08, 2011#1462

^ It spoke highly of KC Mayor Sly James to testify in support. This bill is in danger... its not just Crowell and postponing things is not good. I remember when people here were giving Gov. Nixon grief for not calling a special session.... this chaos amongst Republicans is exactly the kind of thing he was trying to assure wouldn't happen. This may or not be posturing on some and things may get back on track next week, but its far from a sure thing.

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PostSep 12, 2011#1463

State study says cargo hub credits will likely boost state revenue
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 734a1.html

Hopefully that sways some of the naysayers in the MO congress.

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PostSep 12, 2011#1464

Despite the fact that independent economic analysts showed that the initiative would generate more revenue than it would consume in tax credits and that legislators have improved the bill by requiring that businesses satisfy objective criteria in order to qualify as a "gateway zone," it looks like the opposition remains determined to kill the bill. LuAnn Ridgeway, the woman who stood on the senate floor and read the entire puppy mill bill in order to try to block its passage (she was pro-puppy mills), is threatening to join senator Crowell in leading the filibuster.
I also hate that they are tying this to low-income tax credits. Considering the nature of the bill, I don’t understand why we have to make so many cuts in order to get this through. My guess is that tea party types want to eliminate these programs anyway, and this provides them with an excuse. It's also an effective way to get progressives to oppose the bill.
http://www.missourinet.com/2011/09/12/r ... nanswered/

As Count has pointed out, the irony of the libertarian stance is that Missouri is essentially a welfare state. Yet, a proposal that would potentially help wean us off so much federal assistance, one that encourages private enterprise through tax incentives, is attacked as an unreasonable government handout. We live in a dumb state.

Here is a link to the summary of the actual study: http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews ... f5.pdf.pdf

It's worth noting that the study did not take into account the multiplier effects that would result from having a trade hub in STL. Among other things, having more planes land at Lambert would reduce landing fees, which would result in more direct flights from Lambert (I remember reading a story about how A-B moved so many white-collar jobs to NYC because of the lack of direct flights from Lambert. Not that we'll compete with JFK or anything, but having more direct flights can only help business). Also, one has to assume that businesses would want to establish a presence in the city that serves as a gateway to the largest economy in the world (IMF predicts this will happen in 2016). GC could give rundown better than I can, but the benefits of having a hub here would likely extend far beyond providing warehouse/factory jobs, though the study shows that the initiative would still be worth pursuing if it were limited to these returns on investment.

In related news, Chinese consumer demand has skyrocketed in recent months:
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011 ... od=WSJBlog

For what it's worth, this state rep thinks that aerotropolis' prospects are "dim"
http://www.kccommunitynews.com/liberty- ... etail.html

The Beacon provided an excellent summary of recent developments:
http://stlbeacon.org/images/stories/new ... t2-550.jpg

In the entire Beacon piece, I only take issue with one statement:
"The higher level of credits, particularly if paired with the state's separate Quality Jobs credits, could end up costing the state more than it would make in new income off of a China Hub warehouse."
Although revenues would likely not exceed the amount consumed in tax credits over a 10 year period under these specific conditions, revenues would exceed the amount disbursed within 15 years. Moreover, considering that these tax credits are designed to lure business that basically doesn't exist in the region, I don't think it's fair to say that it will necessarily "cost" the state. A portion of the credits might go toward some business activity that is currently conducted in the region, but I would think that this would pale in comparison to the truly new business that the hub attracts. As such, it's not fair to equate the amount awarded in tax credits with the cost incurred by the state.
At any rate, these charts clearly demonstrate that we don't need to cut all of these programs in order to pay for the initiative (even under the assumption that the tax credits are fully exhausted):
http://stlbeacon.org/images/stories/new ... t2-550.jpg
http://stlbeacon.org/images/stories/new ... t3-550.jpg

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PostSep 13, 2011#1465

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 2ded3.html

They're asking for more assurance that Missouri would receive a return on its tax-credit investments.

I don't know anything about state politics, but this might be a promising sign, couldn't if?

By that, I mean at least the opposition isn't just interested in tanking the bill by any means necessary, right? They're interested in engaging in some back-and-forth, and at least entertaining scenarios in which they would support the bill.

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PostSep 13, 2011#1466

^It does seem like they are willing to make it work but under more stringent conditions. They're moving to make sure that the state will at the least break even on every dollar spent on tax credits. [Seems fair to me.]

From the article in the P-D:

"After reviewing a cost-benefit study, key senators said that before they approve $300 million in cargo hub credits, they would try to add protections guaranteeing that warehouses and factories return at least $1 to the state for every $1 in tax credits they receive."

And:

"He noted that the legislation already imposes a return-on-investment of 1-to-1 for data warehouses. The cargo hub is "in the ballpark" of a 1-to-1 ratio so it, too, could meet that standard, he said.
That's better than historic preservation tax credits, which return only 21 cents on the dollar, and low-income housing development credits, which give back only 11 cents on the dollar, Lager said."

If the package is constructed and approved like this, the Missouri tax payer will receive a guaranteed return on investment. As I've said and written many times before: the Aerotropolis tax credits will pay for themselves. Guaranteed.

Now pass the bill, folks.

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PostSep 13, 2011#1467

Hope I'm wrong but I heard this failed and our boys are heading back from Jeff City.

What's the next step?

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PostSep 13, 2011#1468

This latest modification to the bill seems reasonable, and I have liked the other recent changes.

Hell of an editorial by the P-D:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/co ... e=comments

BREAKING NEWS: THE SENATE HAS JUST GUTTED THE BILL:
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/ ... -hub-plan/

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PostSep 13, 2011#1469

Damn it

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PostSep 13, 2011#1470

I can’t imagine this would lure the Chinese to Lambert. Our facilities are woefully inadequate. If this is the final version of the bill, it looks like we won’t have a China hub in STL. Other cities/states will pick up the ball where we dropped it. Good work MO legislature!

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PostSep 13, 2011#1471

KWMU's reporting on it.

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/mo- ... is-credits

OK, Senate version still has to be reconciled with what House wants. My bet and hope is that House demands an increase in the export credits, or at least greater then $60 million that was saved at this point. Also, maybe they can work some of the other funding through existing tax credits.

The other point, we need to find a way to drive traffic for return flights. This is a start and what the Chinese need, some traffic generated on the return trip. As a legitimate arguement can be made that their is enough warehouse space available in the near term.

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PostSep 13, 2011#1472

Deep breath, everyone...

We all have noted that this special legislative session would be difficult, as the need to even call one is a big enough sign that there is some serious dischord in whether or not proactive investment in economic development benefits the State as a whole, that legislative members are concerned with significant capital allowances during these rough (Depression-esque) financial times, that these are politicians & not businesspeople, that there is political infighting & people fighting over pieces of the influence pie, and that nothing is guaranteed. Speed bumps are to have been expected; now, they're delivered.

The update is that the MO Senate will push forward with a $60M tax credit allowance, from $360M. The new package is reported to remove incentives for construction of new warehousing facilities but keep all monies meant to attract freight forwarding companies. The focus here, it's being said, is towards total jobs, not just construction jobs, and towards development of a logistics industry cluster sans real estate development. For a compromise, it's not that bad so far...

Plus, the construction tax credits are not fully eliminated, it's said, but are being transferred in authority towards the MO State Department of Economic Development. So, credits will remain available for new warehouse construction, just through another government entity. This will be fun, because the ROI from this construction will mean higher allocations to these types of projects, doing so to the detriment of out-state projects come allocation times.

Yes, it would be nice to see the whole $360M, or more, come through dedicated to this investment, but that just ain't gonna happen. Still, they haven't given up on this wholly. The value in such an industrial development, proactively, is evident to the MO Legislature; they're not just giving up on something big because they simply can't recognize it. They're still seeking it, just not putting such a heavy investment into it as they could.

Takeaway: Not paying for warehouse new construction, in and of itself, won't send Beijing to Cincinnati.

Two questions remain at this point...

1. Will the MO House agree to compromise? Will they fight for the original package instead? If doing so, would they possibly win accords from the Senate, or would they end up killing the compromise?

2. What will China think of this? This is a question of Diplomacy, not intra-state economic development.

On one hand, I see the Chinese seeing this as part of a compromise towards seeking cooperative business and the establishment of a Chinese foothold in STL for commerce. They want to see a commitment, not a dollar handout. When one considers the economic strength of the People's Republic of China, you quickly realize they're not desperate for $300M in MO tax credits. Two news stories I've read just today discuss the Chinese seeking to buy up Italian industries on the cheap as a foothold in the European economy (as the Euro falls under its own weight), and another discussing proactive Chinese investment into the Caribbean by about $1B.

The other hand, the pessimistic one, is fearful that the Chinese will see weakness in STL because of the influence of out-state parties either fearful or incapable of recognizing Chinese economic might. They want to feel valued. Sure enough, we've engaged them so strongly on the diplomatic angle, including Federal Legislators, the Governor, the Mayor, the County Executive(s), the China Hub Commission, the Chamber(s) of Commerce, organized labor, the majority of the MO Legislature, and the US Federal Government. Still, if they don't feel valued enough for what they may see as a moderate real estate investment seeking partnership, they may be skittish.

Of note is how the Chinese see real estate, as a prime source of value. The Chinese economic development mindset is rather Keynesian, moreso than even our Federal government has been over the last couple years. They see proactive government investment as key to propelling economic development, whether investments made today pay off now or twenty years from now. The reports of Chinese "Ghost Cities" prove this.

But long-term, China wants in the Central US. They're also not sure what other sites could fit them as well as Lambert STL, and they definitely don't have the relationships so well defined and determined to see something through without starting over again. From the layout of Lambert & its open surrounding areas, to the deep diplomatic ties our region has with both Beijing and Shanghai, I just don't see a city like Indianapolis or Columbus OH jumping in and ably taking our momentum away just yet; after all, who knows if they'd be funded by their own state governments.

It's not over yet; keep hope alive...

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PostSep 13, 2011#1473

GC, I see what you're saying, but from what I gather, the $300 million are a necessary component of the initiative. If the Department of Economic Development could allocate such credits when necessary down the road, then I guess it's not devastating. If this senate bill is the final version and the $300 in credits truly are necessary, then special session would result in the passage of an ineffectual China hub bill, cuts to historic housing credits, and cuts to low-income housing. I hope proponents of the hub in the legislature strap on a pair in the coming days
As for the message it sends, at least China has seemingly learned to price-in our political dysfunction.

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PostSep 13, 2011#1474

Interesting read in the PD today:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/co ... 85b07.html
The argument pushed by some opponents is that it is yet another economic development proposal that takes from the poor and gives to corporate fat-cats.

As lawmakers return to the Capitol to debate the bill today, it's important to note who is behind the most serious opposition to the bill. It's not poor folks, old folks, disabled folks or the mentally ill...

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PostSep 13, 2011#1475

If this hub were located in Joplin or Kennett or just anywhere in rural Missouri, the bill would have sailed through the legislature.

Make no mistake: this is yet another stick-it-to-St.-Louis move by rural and exurban Republicans.

Matt Blunt couldn't have made the outstate GOP's feelings about metro areas any clearer than in his famous "places where nobody wants to live" remark. Anybody out there think the situation is somehow different now? Anybody?

There's a war on - unfortunately only one side is aware of it, which is why they're winning.

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