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dweebe wrote:A Grove resident was telling me some neighbors aren't happy with the crowds at Urban Chestnut and are posting handmade "Resident Parking Only" signs along with leaving snarky notes on cars.

I assume then that there ISN'T actually a Residential Permit ordinance off Manchester? And if they're planting their own signs, that is most definitely illegal and ticketable.

Really, if a commercial stretch does become popular and well-visited, I'm not opposed to implementing residential parking zones nearby -- say, meters for the first block or two of streets intersecting the corridor and an 8pm-8am permit zone for 2-3 blocks back from it. Of course, that should come with a cost to residents (let's say $50 annually for residents within the zone, $8 per 1-day visitor pass).

But I have a sneaking suspicion the area adjacent to Manchester is no where near the point where that's required. Hell, even next to Wrigley Field, the residential permit zone is only in effect on game days...

just a quick flash of a thought:

You know how St. Louis' small Chinatown that was torn down when they built Busch Stadium in the 1960s was called "Hop Alley"? I was just thinking that'd make a cool name for a STL microbrewery. I can already see the labels in the beer aisle. So just in case any of you have a friend looking to open up a new brewery but are still looking for a name, I give you my permission to use Hop Alley. Even better, tell them to open up in Cupples Station.

But I will require royalties. I think 5% on every bottle will do

this was in the Post a couple of weeks ago - chronicling the 33 regional breweries on line or coming on line - pretty impresive


http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/d ... b8847.html

I hope future breweries consider downtown and other city locations. Seems like all the recent breweries have been on the outskirts of town.

debaliviere wrote:I hope future breweries consider downtown and other city locations. Seems like all the recent breweries have been on the outskirts of town.

Alpha Brewing opened last year and is located downtown. But yeah I would like to see a few more.

^and don't forget about Morgan Street. Aside from its rep as a 20-something party spot, they have been brewing delicious beers for years.

I'm really holding out hope for a big Schlafly announcement in the city soon. They are contracting so much beer out they have to expand soon.

Would you be upset if Schlafly set up shop in the burbs? If they do, will they change their label to say "Brewed in X city" if they set up production in a suburban city? I sure hope so from a truth in advertising perspective and a regional identity standpoint.

I'm pretty sure the labels don't say "Brewed in Maplewood" now. I certainly hope they find a spot in the city, but I will continue to support them even if that doesn't work out.

quote="roger wyoming II"]^ My vision is a "Saint Louis Brewer's Guild" collective downtown where you can enjoy Saint Louis's offerings.[/quote]

Someone needs to reclaim a beautiful abandoned church, remove the pews and replace them with long wooden picnic style seating. Kinda like in Harry Potter. Sell all the local beers and some other types as well.

"The St. Louis Meade Hall"

I like that.

robertn42 wrote:^and don't forget about Morgan Street. Aside from its rep as a 20-something party spot, they have been brewing delicious beers for years.

Great point. Come to think of it there are 3 breweries downtown. Schlafly, Alpha, and Morgan St. All very good.

bigreid74 wrote:

Would you be upset if Schlafly set up shop in the burbs? If they do, will they change their label to say "Brewed in X city" if they set up production in a suburban city? I sure hope so from a truth in advertising perspective and a regional identity standpoint.

I'm pretty sure the labels don't say "Brewed in Maplewood" now. I certainly hope they find a spot in the city, but I will continue to support them even if that doesn't work out.

The labels don't, but something does. I wish I could remember what. But I very specifically remember seeing something in the past week that was Schlafly branded noting "brewed in Maplewood" or something similar.

In the past, Schlafly has given indications that they really want to place their new operation in the city, but that they'll consider the suburbs if needed. We'll see what happens.

I saw on the news yesterday Belleville is adding a new Brewery to join the many others here in the region Think its called main st something can't remember i was half wake half sleep lol.... I will say that theres definitely a brewery explosion here in St.Louis... I think if Schlafly expands Northside would make the best sense since theres plenty of land to be built on and I'm sure McKee is looking to score some big developments in that area..

"St. Louis" is a city, a county, and a region.

I think it'd hurt their brand to go to the county. After all, the beer is produced by The Saint Louis Brewery. Ideally a brewery should have a sense of history and local character that drinkers identify with. It should feel both creative and experimental, but also timeless and traditional.

It sounds like it doesn't meet there specs, and I'm sure it doesn't pencil out from an investment standpoint compared to some prime Chesterfield reclaimed floodplain property, but the Lemp Brewery at Cherokee and S. Broadway would do more to connect the brand with a community and the city as a whole than anything else.

If they want to be in the City limits they'll find the space. There's no shortage of post-industrial wasteland to be had.

Mark Groth wrote:

I will say that theres definitely a brewery explosion here in St.Louis... I think if Schlafly expands Northside would make the best sense since theres plenty of land to be built on and I'm sure McKee is looking to score some big developments in that area..

So by your definition, Illinois is now "St. Louis"...I guess the Better St. Louis message is taking off. Let me ask you guys, do you think St. Louis should give (give) Schlafly land to grow here, or do you thing we should focus on another corp? I wonder if Schlafly commits to the burbs if they will change their label: "brewed in St. Louis". Time will tell. Either way, decent beer, but if you want to shop the city, you can't give them your $ if they root down in the burbs.

Never said St.Louis was Illinois and how can St.Louis be a state??? I was referring to the region in general as seeing a explosion in micro brewers and i would think the people of the Metro East would like to be referred as part of St.Louis maybe I'm wrong .. Wherever Schlafly ends up more than likely will be somewhere in the city..