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PostMar 24, 2025#51

LocalGovSTL wrote:
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Jallen26 wrote:
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LocalGovSTL wrote:
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https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 86532.html

Orchard Farm is the fastest growing school district in the area. I would have guessed Wentzville, but still not too surprising given the growth around New Town and Charlestowne. Interestingly, the article mentions plans to add an additional 800 homes in the area over the next decade.
That 800 number is just counting the current newtown phase as well as the new subdivision that will be going into the former turf farm that is adjacent. There are several developers under contract far north of the high school for hundreds more.

The city is also under contract for this parcel where they are planning a golf course and subdivision. They plan to "lift" if out of the flood plane but it is still directly adjacent to the river. Disasters waiting to happen all around...

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Is the turf farm you’re referring to the various parcels owned by the Kurtz family, or something else?
I meant the farms west of the high school along HWY B, maybe not turf. Kurtz has not sold but anticipate Whittaker will buy that when they do.

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PostMar 24, 2025#52

low density McMansions on a minimum of 1AC ?
here you go: https://www.wallpaper.com/architecture/ai-architecture-slovenia

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PostMar 24, 2025#53

Glad someone is taking care of the needs of executives. /s

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PostMar 24, 2025#54

Jallen26 wrote:
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Tim wrote:
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Not that I want people's lives...washed away. But, I also kinda can't wait for "the big one" to take out Chesterfield Valley.
This is an awful sentiment, a disaster like that would ultimately cost some folks their lives.
Chesterfield Valley is mostly one giant strip mall built in the floodplain. It had a major flood about 30 years ago. Then, the multinational retail chains, big box stores, fast food restaurants, and luxury car dealerships took over. I will have little sympathy when it floods again. But, Chesterfield is in St. Louis County, so I should probably express my disdain toward them instead.

I don't want New Town washed away, or anyone's homes actually destroyed. But, it was a conscious decision by their residents to build a home and live there, despite the risk. It's 2025, we should know better.

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PostJun 06, 2025#55

Side Project Brewing is moving forward in Frenchtown. Lot's of cool projects starting soon.
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PostJun 06, 2025#56

More brand and experiential exclusivity dilution.

I get it's a strong brand, but it's not like beer is a growing market.

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PostJun 06, 2025#57

bwcrow1s wrote:
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More brand and experiential exclusivity dilution.

I get it's a strong brand, but it's not like beer is a growing market.
I agree, I am not sure how much more room there is to grow for craft breweries. I myself don't drink and it seems that many Gen Z don't either.

https://time.com/7203140/gen-z-drinking-less-alcohol/

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PostJul 06, 2025#58

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... adb36.html

Meanwhile, neither O'Fallon nor the entirety of St. Charles County has public transport. I'm sure building more roads will solve the traffic issue though.

PostJul 08, 2025#59

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 75e51.html

Dardeen Prairie to end consideration of multi family development for at least 1 year.

“We’ve got more than enough density here already,” Rich Linderman said. “I know we can’t stop all development, and we don’t want to stop all, but we can minimize the amount of high-density housing. Actually, I’d like to see it fully eliminated.”

What a cancer.

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PostJul 09, 2025#60

Auggie wrote:
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Dardeen Prairie to end consideration of multi family development for at least 1 year.

“We’ve got more than enough density here already,” Rich Linderman said. “I know we can’t stop all development, and we don’t want to stop all, but we can minimize the amount of high-density housing. Actually, I’d like to see it fully eliminated.”

What a cancer.
Letting a small group of overly vocal residents with too much time on their hands dictate the future of development is a fools errand. Municipalities need to stop bending the knee to these people who essentially fall in love with a view they don't own.

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PostJul 09, 2025#61

Counterpoint: Folks wanting high-density apartment living shouldn't be looking out in the far-flung exburbs anyway. The line of thinking of 'driving forever to get away from the city so you can live on top of your neighbors' never made even a little bit of sense to me. If you want density, there's a ton of it in the city and even the inner-ring suburbs.

-RBB 

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PostJul 09, 2025#62

rbb wrote:
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Counterpoint: Folks wanting high-density apartment living shouldn't be looking out in the far-flung exburbs anyway. The line of thinking of 'driving forever to get away from the city so you can live on top of your neighbors' never made even a little bit of sense to me. If you want density, there's a ton of it in the city and even the inner-ring suburbs.

-RBB 
This is true as well, but it still makes zero sense for Dardeen Prairie to be banning apartments for the next year.

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PostJul 09, 2025#63

When you consider the amount of pavement in the project footprint for these things, it’s not actually high density. It’s just slightly higher density than the typical garbage built in St Charles

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PostJul 09, 2025#64

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
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When you consider the amount of pavement in the project footprint for these things, it’s not actually high density. It’s just slightly higher density than the typical garbage built in St Charles
This is also true. Dardeen Prairie is 4x less densely populated as my neighborhood of 60% SFHs and 40% 2 family flats.

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PostJul 10, 2025#65

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
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When you consider the amount of pavement in the project footprint for these things, it’s not actually high density. It’s just slightly higher density than the typical garbage built in St Charles
This is a really good perspective. 

I was thinking more so about adding more housing options thus pushing overall rents down and less so walkability. The only areas in St. Charles County that will ever truly be walkable are the small pockets along the old riverfront area in St. Charles City proper. 

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PostAug 07, 2025#66

14 new townhomes coming to S Main - they look nice -



https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... -top-story

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PostAug 11, 2025#67

Interesting to see the users that were lined up for this.
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PostAug 12, 2025#68

Jallen26 wrote:
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Interesting to see the users that were lined up for this.Riverpoint Users.png
are those letters of intent - or wishful thinking - would be really impressive if they would have all of that. Jack Stack would be awesome 

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PostAug 12, 2025#69

I see those businesses as being more aspirational for who’d they’d want there

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PostAug 12, 2025#71

beer city wrote:
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Jallen26 wrote:
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Interesting to see the users that were lined up for this.Riverpoint Users.png
are those letters of intent - or wishful thinking - would be really impressive if they would have all of that. Jack Stack would be awesome 
These were the users that were lined up prior the the CRG partnership. Present day was discussed in closed session. Deck is at the bottom of the packet.
https://www.stcharlescitymo.gov/AgendaC ... 22025-1732
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PostAug 13, 2025#72

Jallen26 wrote:
Aug 12, 2025
beer city wrote:
Aug 12, 2025
Jallen26 wrote:
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Interesting to see the users that were lined up for this.Riverpoint Users.png
are those letters of intent - or wishful thinking - would be really impressive if they would have all of that. Jack Stack would be awesome 
These were the users that were lined up prior the the CRG partnership. Present day was discussed in closed session. Deck is at the bottom of the packet.
https://www.stcharlescitymo.gov/AgendaC ... 22025-1732
Looks like all the users on the map dropped out and only the two hotels remain.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... -top-story
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PostAug 23, 2025#73

There is a decent sized multifamily project ongoing in NewTown by Salter Construction out of Arkansas. They purchased the 2.47 AC parcel from Whitaker for 1.35M and are developing what appears to be roughly 60 three story townhomes for rent with a garage below.
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PostSep 04, 2025#74

StlToday - 2nd St. Charles official is tied to data center proposal

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 31ba1.html

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PostSep 10, 2025#75

Naked Spirit Distillery is moving from Brentwood to the Frenchtown District in St. Charles.

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