Damn, that would be awesome. The Arabia Museum is one of my favorites. I'm really surprised they're thinking about leaving KC, but maybe their location has become more valuable than they can afford.
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^That whole City Market area has gotten pretty high rent lately. It kind of feels like Soulard Market was dropped into the Grove with some of the Asian markets on Olive thrown in the mix. I haven't been to the museum, but the first time I was in the area it it was pretty much the only thing in the market, and now that market is absolutely hopping. If it's a small operation, and I guess it is, I can easily imagine the rent has gotten uncomfortable. Happy for St. Charles to get it. Now can we please get something maritime downtown beyond the Becky Thatcher and the Tom Sawyer? We have a real port. We need a real maritime museum. But that's a matter for another thread. I will wish St. Charles luck on this one.
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I've gotten the impression that KC is kind of sick of the museum owners and their antics. Always asking for public handouts and threatening to move despite being a completely private entity.
They also put the kibosh on the concerts they used to have at the City Market
They also put the kibosh on the concerts they used to have at the City Market
It appears the 100 AC park along HWY B is in limbo. I am not surprised given my discussions with those involved.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... ncil-park/
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... ncil-park/
Feud over park’s future in St. Charles sparks legal fight between city council, park board
ST. CHARLES — An alleged plot to sell city parkland to a homebuilder is pitting the St. Charles parks board against the city council — and now two council members are suing to seize power from the parks board and give the city control of the land.
St. Charles, through the parks board, purchased the land in 2019 and two years later developed a long-range vision to transform it into a park featuring an 18-hole disc golf course, a 10-acre lake, an outdoor education space, a bike park, batting cages, a mini-golf course, sand volleyball courts, pickleball courts, pavilions and paved walking trails.
The city’s website describes the proposed park “as a catalyst for economic development as well as a central amenity for future city growth.” The property is 100 acres along Highway B near Orchard Farm High School’s campus and the New Town neighborhood.
Members of the park board say in court documents that the city, particularly St. Charles Mayor Dan Borgmeyer, wants to sell the property. The board says in court filings that Borgmeyer told its members at a meeting Dec. 18 that the city wants to sell the property to St. Charles County and that the county has plans to sell the property to an unnamed homebuilder.
As a follow-up to this, we recommended putting out a survey and the limited pool or residents that responded highlight flooding as their primary concern.Jallen26 wrote: ↑Sep 27, 2024Discussions are currently moving forward on the expansion of the city of St. Charles that was originally proposed in 2021. Although, the majority of the area lies in the 500 year floodplain, upstream levee construction and climate change continue to increase the frequency and severity of flooding in the Midwest. I can't help but think that this is a disaster waiting to happen in the coming decades.
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Plenty of land to build on next to infrastructure we've already paid for all over the region.
Buildings:Jallen26 wrote: ↑Sep 16, 2024Dierbergs at Newtown
Planning Phase: 2024
Break Ground: 2025
Delivery: 2026
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Building A (Left) - 13,033 SF
Dierberg’s (B)– 72,745 SF
Building C (Right) – 6,361 SF
Building D (Frontage to Newtown Blvd) – 9,772 SF
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This isn’t in Newtown or even on its periphery. It’s two miles away down an industrial court.
Yep, that is why it is in this thread and not the New Town thread...JaneJacobsGhost wrote: ↑Feb 25, 2025This isn’t in Newtown or even on its periphery. It’s two miles away down an industrial court.
The development is being referred to as Dierberg's at Newtown Blvd.
Agreed. Unfortunately, I find myself in the minority making this argument. Fortunately, the city is investing in redevelopment in other areas such as Frenchtown and near Lindenwood.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 07, 2025Plenty of land to build on next to infrastructure we've already paid for all over the region.
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You’re the one who called it “Dierbergs at Newtown” . Post #23 in this thread.
A rare investment in pedestrian friendly infrastructure. Work to start soon on adding a pedestrian bridge between Lindenwood and University Commons.
That's auto infrastructure actually. Instead of dealing with the problem, cars, it subjugates people in service of driving.
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https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 86532.html
Orchard Farm is the fastest growing school district in the area. I would have guessed Wentzville, but still not too surprising given the growth around New Town and Charlestowne. Interestingly, the article mentions plans to add an additional 800 homes in the area over the next decade.
Orchard Farm is the fastest growing school district in the area. I would have guessed Wentzville, but still not too surprising given the growth around New Town and Charlestowne. Interestingly, the article mentions plans to add an additional 800 homes in the area over the next decade.
Not that I want people's lives...washed away. But, I also kinda can't wait for "the big one" to take out Chesterfield Valley.
It's not that you want it, but similarly to Florida and hurricanes, it's an expectation that it will happen eventually and it's hard to feel that bad when they still chose to build there.
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Who paid to build / reinforce the levies that enabled the mecca of shopping in Chesterfield? The county? The state?
This is an awful sentiment, a disaster like that would ultimately cost some folks their lives.Tim wrote: ↑Mar 22, 2025Not that I want people's lives...washed away. But, I also kinda can't wait for "the big one" to take out Chesterfield Valley.
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Wow, wishing for destruction.
That 800 number is just counting the current newtown phase as well as the new subdivision that will be going into the former turf farm that is adjacent. There are several developers under contract far north of the high school for hundreds more.LocalGovSTL wrote: ↑Mar 22, 2025https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 86532.html
Orchard Farm is the fastest growing school district in the area. I would have guessed Wentzville, but still not too surprising given the growth around New Town and Charlestowne. Interestingly, the article mentions plans to add an additional 800 homes in the area over the next decade.
The city is also under contract for this parcel where they are planning a golf course and subdivision.
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Is the turf farm you’re referring to the various parcels owned by the Kurtz family, or something else?Jallen26 wrote: ↑Mar 24, 2025That 800 number is just counting the current newtown phase as well as the new subdivision that will be going into the former turf farm that is adjacent. There are several developers under contract far north of the high school for hundreds more.LocalGovSTL wrote: ↑Mar 22, 2025https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 86532.html
Orchard Farm is the fastest growing school district in the area. I would have guessed Wentzville, but still not too surprising given the growth around New Town and Charlestowne. Interestingly, the article mentions plans to add an additional 800 homes in the area over the next decade.
The city is also under contract for this parcel where they are planning a golf course and subdivision. They plan to "lift" if out of the flood plane but it is still directly adjacent to the river. Disasters waiting to happen all around...
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Will that parcel be developed in a similar fashion to New Town? Or will it resemble the more traditional sprawl neighborhoods?
Sprawl.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑Mar 24, 2025Will that parcel be developed in a similar fashion to New Town? Or will it resemble the more traditional sprawl neighborhoods?