Evidently, OPO is conveniently where both the residential and office markets converge. Until the residential is dense enough to support a store on its own, the balance of daytime workers will likely keep east of Tucker more attractive to grocers.
Great information. Thanks for sharing.MidcoastSTL wrote:I talked to them about a few things.
They need 40% to start construction and according to the board and the rep I talked to they are halfway there with the ones that are "held". The process is 2500.00 down and then you go to contract in 7 days. At that point 5% is put down with the rest due at closing.
She said once they start construction they will hopefully use 2 cranes to build the tower and it should take 18 months.
I askd her what type of retail they were going for. On th brochure there is a generic sign about an organic grocer and on the lcd tv's I saw clothing stores like BCBG etc. When I asked her, she said nothing is finalized but they have talked to Trader Joes and they are interested.
I like how this is an actual single skyscraper that simply takes a plot of land within respect of the street grid and makes good use of it. None of this plaza or complex stuff. Why is everyone so afraid to do this?
stlmike wrote:I like how this is an actual single skyscraper that simply takes a plot of land within respect of the street grid and makes good use of it. None of this plaza or complex stuff.
Ooh, good point. Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't thought about that.
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In some respects I feel like people are starting to understand this - even something as montronous as BPV is going to fit with the current street grid.
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Was anyone around near the end fo the evening and notice how many holds they had?
ok, now that the Schnucks in the Garage Mahal is official, these guys should get together with City Grocers and work out a deal for a bi-level grocery in the Skyhouse! It's a pretty small footprint, though, so I am not sure if it is enough space?
I agree that every developer is going to throw around Whole Foods / Trader Joes, but they need to forget about it. We already have a fairly successful premium / healthy grocer downtown. Those big chains rarely locate in dense urban locations, Wash Ave has nowhere near the population density to pique their interest yet.
fuhgeddabout - let's support what we have, go with the locals! Can I get an amen?
I agree that every developer is going to throw around Whole Foods / Trader Joes, but they need to forget about it. We already have a fairly successful premium / healthy grocer downtown. Those big chains rarely locate in dense urban locations, Wash Ave has nowhere near the population density to pique their interest yet.
fuhgeddabout - let's support what we have, go with the locals! Can I get an amen?
Can someone let the Webmaster of the SkyHouse website to use embedded flash detection? What they're doing isn't the best design practice -> http://www.skyhousestl.com/
Solution -> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
or
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplay ... ction_kit/
Solution -> http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
or
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplay ... ction_kit/
bab wrote:
fuhgeddabout - let's support what we have, go with the locals! Can I get an amen?
aaaaaamen!!!! [-o<
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on the new website...virtual tour part two at the very beginning. What's up with those towers??? Are they cranes? One of them is much taller than met square. any thoughts?
Joe Whittingham reports from the STL Post...
SKY'S THE LIMIT: Chicago developers of the 22-story Skyhouse proposed for the southwest corner of 14th Street and Washington Avenue say they sold 22 condominium units at a recent showing.
A virtual tour of the units were given, and the developers said the 19th floor sold out; two units are left on the 22nd floor.
The building is not expected to open until 2010, and condominiums range from the mid-$200,000s to $800,000.
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metzgda wrote:Joe Whittingham reports from the STL Post...
SKY'S THE LIMIT: Chicago developers of the 22-story Skyhouse proposed for the southwest corner of 14th Street and Washington Avenue say they sold 22 condominium units at a recent showing.
A virtual tour of the units were given, and the developers said the 19th floor sold out; two units are left on the 22nd floor.
The building is not expected to open until 2010, and condominiums range from the mid-$200,000s to $800,000.
166 total condos
66 needed to get financing (40%)
22 sold
only 44 left
If I had $200k, I'd be giving it some serious thought about now. I love this project.
Keep the 4 hour shirt sign though.
Keep the 4 hour shirt sign though.
Great news. It sold more than I thought it would. Hope that magic# 44 gets knocked out soon.
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Loft tour should help. Should get a lot more people through than just the "VIPs" that were there for the opening.
Regarding the loft tours...I love them because it seems as work on EVERYTHING always picks up in the preceeding weeks to make everything looks all nice. Anyone have thoughts on how it affects sales?
Regarding the loft tours...I love them because it seems as work on EVERYTHING always picks up in the preceeding weeks to make everything looks all nice. Anyone have thoughts on how it affects sales?
ChrisInDownTown wrote:Loft tour should help. Should get a lot more people through than just the "VIPs" that were there for the opening.
Regarding the loft tours...I love them because it seems as work on EVERYTHING always picks up in the preceeding weeks to make everything looks all nice. Anyone have thoughts on how it affects sales?
Plus it looks like they're still working on the sales office.
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These prices are up there - very, very encouraging to see that 22 units are reserved . . .
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BIG NEWS FROM A GUY(newstl2020) AT SSP -
Ok, so I went down to the sales center today for Skyhouse and spoke to one of the sales reps who was extremely knowledgeable about the project as well as the whole scape of downtown in general. He gave me a bunch of great info, some not pertaining so much to this project but very cool none the less.
HERE WE GO! (sorry about gramatical errors, I'm very excited to get this all down)
The old drycleaners on the corner where skyhouse is located is going to be demolished in a month. This will be immediately followed by an intense 2 month clean up period monitored by the EPA (It's a drycleaners = not environmentally friendly). After the two month clean up period, construction can follow as soon as possible.
The construction loan for the project, and subsequent construction, is contingent upon a 40% pre-sale of the project. The gentleman stated that as of right now they are "just over" 20%. This is an amazing number, however, because the sales center was just opened 2 weeks ago, and the actual grand opening of the skyhouse for sales isn't until this Saturday during the Downtown Living Tour.
There will be retail space on the ground-floor facing Washington, which the sales rep stated is "currently set-up for a grocery store." When pressed slightly further, he said that they want (and have been in talks with) an organic foods grocer. He stated that two they are currently talking with are Trader Joes and Whole Foods Market.
He pointed out the tiered design of the balconies which are facing East(so as to maintain a line of sight for each balcony), a subtle design element that I had not noticed on the renderings, but which looks absolutely stunning on the model in the sales center. Every unit will have its own private balcony.
They have not recieved a final height for the building yet. It will be 22 stories tall, and the normal units will have 9' heigh cielings. The upper, more luxurious units will have taller cielings though, and there are extra design elements on the top which will add height. I had read that zoning for the plot stipulated a maximum height of 250', but the rep said that he thought it will be anywhere between 230' - 280' ish.
As a side note, he also said that a new Wallgreens is going up downtown in the very near future, something I had yet to hear. In addition, he said that the Schnucks is basically a done deal as well, they have just not announced it yet.
AND HERE IS THE BEST PART (I had to make him repeat this by the way, as I was sure he couldn't have said this. This is St. Louis Right???)
The company which is developing Skyhouse has bought and is in control of "several" more prime plots of land in downtown, and is currently going to develop more towers contingent upon the success of Skyhouse! The sales rep would not state any specific information regarding possible future towers (height, design elements, etc.) but did say that he had seen preliminary renderings of the new possible towers and is very excited! I can't believe they have allready bought several new plots and have preliminary renderings.
GOD I HOPE SKYHOUSE KILLS AND SELLS OUT QUICKLY!
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Wow...I'll be happy if even a fraction of these things becomes reality.
A Trader Joe's or Whole Foods would be nice, but like Grover, I'd be especially excited to see additional towers constructed downtown.
Hopefully the Skyhouse will sell out quickly. If I had the money, I'd certainly get in line.
A Trader Joe's or Whole Foods would be nice, but like Grover, I'd be especially excited to see additional towers constructed downtown.
Hopefully the Skyhouse will sell out quickly. If I had the money, I'd certainly get in line.
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Everyone is "talking" to Trader Joes and Whole Foods.
Yawn.
Yawn.
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^Others may be talking to these chains, but only Skyhouse will have over 100 upper-middle income households directly above a modern Wash-Ave storefront.






