Oh noooooo... no no. This is not a new issue for them. ...There are things I know...for many years now. As shared by someone who is on the inside of the Bailey's family. There is a track record of mishandled finances with their endeavors. The Clayton location not working out was assuredly not because of the landlord or the set rent. You got to know the deeper story.Auggie wrote: ↑Nov 29, 2025Well yea they didn't pay rent because they couldn't afford to with disappointing sales.SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Nov 29, 2025So the real tea was that they simply weren't paying their rent on the space in Clayton. Opened up shop...did business.. no money for CBRE. From what I understand, the Bailey's chain of restaurants has always been financially mishandled, though. Based on their long track record... they're great at conceptualizing a concept... but frequently terrible with the books.STLrainbow wrote: ↑Nov 26, 2025Bailey's restaurants are filing for bankruptcy (but will remain open) and they blame their failed Clayton venture for their setback,
Friends, don't let your friends open restaurants in Clayton.
They would have paid rent with better sales. It's very straightforward.SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2025Oh noooooo... no no. This is not a new issue for them. ...There are things I know...for many years now. As shared by someone who is on the inside of the Bailey's family. There is a track record of mishandled finances with their endeavors. The Clayton location not working out was assuredly not because of the landlord or the set rent. You got to know the deeper story.Auggie wrote: ↑Nov 29, 2025Well yea they didn't pay rent because they couldn't afford to with disappointing sales.SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Nov 29, 2025So the real tea was that they simply weren't paying their rent on the space in Clayton. Opened up shop...did business.. no money for CBRE. From what I understand, the Bailey's chain of restaurants has always been financially mishandled, though. Based on their long track record... they're great at conceptualizing a concept... but frequently terrible with the books.
That's incorrect. Also...the insanity of what you just said...lol. Rent isn't a suggestion or option. Like what?Auggie wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2025They would have paid rent with better sales. It's very straightforward.SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2025Oh noooooo... no no. This is not a new issue for them. ...There are things I know...for many years now. As shared by someone who is on the inside of the Bailey's family. There is a track record of mishandled finances with their endeavors. The Clayton location not working out was assuredly not because of the landlord or the set rent. You got to know the deeper story.Auggie wrote: ↑Nov 29, 2025
Well yea they didn't pay rent because they couldn't afford to with disappointing sales.
Also heard about "rent issues" with the downtown locations as well. Seems like a mess.
Your original statement: "The real tea is that they simply weren't paying rent." If they had better sales, they would have paid rent.SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2025That's incorrect. Also...the insanity of what you just said...lol. Rent isn't a suggestion or option. Like what?Auggie wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2025They would have paid rent with better sales. It's very straightforward.SRQ2STL wrote: ↑Nov 30, 2025Oh noooooo... no no. This is not a new issue for them. ...There are things I know...for many years now. As shared by someone who is on the inside of the Bailey's family. There is a track record of mishandled finances with their endeavors. The Clayton location not working out was assuredly not because of the landlord or the set rent. You got to know the deeper story.
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Bridge Taphouse and Wine Bar didn't have an active liquor license for well over a year in 24-25. I'm not sure if they even have it right now.
From what I hear the locations have insane manager turnover. Bridge has had at least eight different manager since 2018, and that's just the ones who's contacts made it into my phone.
From what I hear the locations have insane manager turnover. Bridge has had at least eight different manager since 2018, and that's just the ones who's contacts made it into my phone.
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Not sure if posted elsewhere m, but Session taco at Euclid and McPherson has closed after reopening this summer. It’s a shame, as that intersection is coming back
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They are rebranding to a new concept. It's the same people. Smart I think as the Mission/Session Taco concept is tired
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It’s rebranding to Lapaz Mod Mex, their new concept that they debuted in Kansas this yearTheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Dec 03, 2025Not sure if posted elsewhere m, but Session taco at Euclid and McPherson has closed after reopening this summer. It’s a shame, as that intersection is coming back
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Since the renaming Session has been pretty hit and miss with me. We order from them at ITap abd they no longer have the warm fresh chips. They are bagged.
If they want to rebrand I'd start by fixing that.
If they want to rebrand I'd start by fixing that.
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Channel 5 reporting they are also closing their Town and Country location.
Feel like when they scaled they compromised quality and it’s never been the same.
Feel like when they scaled they compromised quality and it’s never been the same.
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Since El Burro closed, I think a full Mexican concept can work well
Since reopening, the CWE Mission hasn't seemed to do all that well. Unsure why but it's mostly empty most days of the week. I think the rebrand is a last ditch effort with that space. I can't imagine they'll actually change much of the interior itself, as it's just a few months old but suppose we'll see.
And, yeah, absent El Burro, all the more surprising regarding Mexican/Mission. Perhaps El Burro was mostly packed with underage kids drinking margs?
And, yeah, absent El Burro, all the more surprising regarding Mexican/Mission. Perhaps El Burro was mostly packed with underage kids drinking margs?
Yes!!!Bart Harley Jarvis wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2025Bring back Tortillaria
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Believe a new restaurant, Turkey Luxe, at 2605 Washington opened today. Next to Latte Lounge and Biscuit Joint
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I thought it was pretty good, stopped in a few times (which it was not busy) but loved the pizza aroma and corner business feel. Solid place and it leaves a hole in a great neighborhood. Awesome building with the green glazed brick and the surrounding old Benton Park buildings and view of the brewery (ignoring the BP and interstate). Hopefully something interesting comes in soon
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Wheelhouse shuttering. Had a nice 11 year run.
https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/12/20/ ... -11-years/
https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/12/20/ ... -11-years/
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Great news for downtown, 2 down 1 to go in that area
Meanwhile, Larson is opening a new fast casual restaurant and coffee house in its building and a new pizza and wings restaurant opened this week at Kiener garages
Meanwhile, Larson is opening a new fast casual restaurant and coffee house in its building and a new pizza and wings restaurant opened this week at Kiener garages
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Lol are you suggesting you want Tin Roof closed? That would absolutely be a negative for downtowndbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 21, 2025Great news for downtown, 2 down 1 to go in that area
Meanwhile, Larson is opening a new fast casual restaurant and coffee house in its building and a new pizza and wings restaurant opened this week at Kiener garages
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Midwesternkeepstlbrick wrote: ↑Dec 21, 2025Lol are you suggesting you want Tin Roof closed? That would absolutely be a negative for downtowndbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 21, 2025Great news for downtown, 2 down 1 to go in that area
Meanwhile, Larson is opening a new fast casual restaurant and coffee house in its building and a new pizza and wings restaurant opened this week at Kiener garages
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Why do you want Midwestern closed?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 22, 2025Midwesternkeepstlbrick wrote: ↑Dec 21, 2025Lol are you suggesting you want Tin Roof closed? That would absolutely be a negative for downtowndbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Dec 21, 2025Great news for downtown, 2 down 1 to go in that area
Meanwhile, Larson is opening a new fast casual restaurant and coffee house in its building and a new pizza and wings restaurant opened this week at Kiener garages
It’s not like downtown vacancies get filled quickly so Im struggling to see why we are wanting restaurants & bars to close in our downtown that needs people?
Bar closures often have a waterfall effect more than probably any other establishment as well. As one closes, it may drive traffic down at the one nextdoor too. They sort of feed off each other.
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We started 2025 with an officer having to shot someone dead at Wheelhouse, it and Midwestern make up 100s of 911 calls, it’s a drain on strained police and ems resources
Just in, a double year-end casualty: https://www.stlmag.com/dining/ben-welch-to-close-both-lucy-q-and-little-lucy-on-december-31/