Restaurants

RockChalkSTL · PostFeb 28, 2025#11612025-02-28T16:00+00:00

According to this article, Kansas City-based ice cream company Betty Rae's is targeting St. Louis, Missouri as a spot for expansion.

https://www.startlandnews.com/2025/02/b ... franchise/

They're also targeting Wichita, Kansas; Bentonville, Arkansas; Nashville, Tennessee; Denver, Colorado; and Oklahoma City and Tulsa in Oklahoma.

bwcrow1s · PostFeb 28, 2025#11622025-02-28T16:06+00:00

.. how many ice cream shops can survive here?

Auggie · PostMar 04, 2025#11632025-03-04T19:30+00:00

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... close.html

Rated Test Kitchen downtown to close May 31.

Possibly one of the dumbest business models out there, I almost think this will be good for downtown when a restaurant that's open more than 3 days a week to reservations only fills the space.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 · PostMar 05, 2025#11642025-03-05T04:30+00:00

https://www.saucemagazine.com/places/th ... d-17656375

Great news!

Ebsy · PostMar 05, 2025#11652025-03-05T04:31+00:00

Fritz Beer is an incredible name.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 · PostMar 05, 2025#11662025-03-05T04:32+00:00

Auggie wrote: ↑
Mar 04, 2025
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... close.html

Rated Test Kitchen downtown to close May 31.

Possibly one of the dumbest business models out there, I almost think this will be good for downtown when a restaurant that's open more than 3 days a week to reservations only fills the space.

Bad take, you obviously Know Nothing John Snow about fine dining and foodie-ism.

Auggie · PostMar 05, 2025#11672025-03-05T04:36+00:00

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑
Mar 05, 2025
Auggie wrote: ↑
Mar 04, 2025
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... close.html

Rated Test Kitchen downtown to close May 31.

Possibly one of the dumbest business models out there, I almost think this will be good for downtown when a restaurant that's open more than 3 days a week to reservations only fills the space.
Bad take, you obviously Know Nothing John Snow about fine dining and foodie-ism.

I know a business open 3 days/week for reservations only does not do much for the economy. Could care less about fine dining lol.

They say they had 20k customers in their 3 years of operation, that comes out to about 43/day.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 · PostMar 05, 2025#11682025-03-05T04:41+00:00

So your argument is that downtown can’t support a high end pre-fixe restaurant? Because most of them are Thurs-Sunday at best.

Auggie · PostMar 05, 2025#11692025-03-05T04:52+00:00

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑
Mar 05, 2025
So your argument is that downtown can’t support a high end pre-fixe restaurant? Because most of them are Thurs-Sunday at best.

My argument is that the restaurant that announced it's closure is not the type of restaurant downtown needs right now. We need businesses that have more than 43 patrons per day of operation.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 · PostMar 05, 2025#11702025-03-05T05:10+00:00

Announcing your closure 3 months ahead of time is what classy places do, when moving elsewhere, while not completely screwing their staff over. Going out with a flare - a ten course dinner - is exactly what they should do. Big hype. What they neither need is your business nor your understanding. What downtown DOES need is destination restaurants and their chefs to have flair.

You constantly prove yourself ignorant of all things. Though, admittedly, I do admire your persistence. Or is it pestilence?

Now, for everyone’s sake: please stop

Auggie · PostMar 05, 2025#11712025-03-05T05:14+00:00

Defending a restaurant that boasts 43 patrons per day is a new low for you.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 · PostMar 05, 2025#11722025-03-05T05:30+00:00

No, attacking an innovator of the food world, while DISMISSING the >10k of taxable revenue per day is the business generated is your own indictment.

Not all of us were made to graduate from diapers, little one. Pound sand, useless.

Auggie · PostMar 05, 2025#11732025-03-05T06:05+00:00

Entire point is that an ultra exclusive rich-person restaurant is not a major loss for downtown.

Fast-food restaurants also are great taxable sales generators. But we want more than just taxable sales, right? Or don't we?

dbInSouthCity · PostMar 05, 2025#11742025-03-05T20:53+00:00

Losing Rated is a huge loss for STL, not just Downtown. Not just because of the restaurant itself but because we are losing one of the best chefs in the region and he's just 23. This is closing because he announced earlier this year that he is moving elsewhere to expand his career. Rated is a destination restuarant, we need 50 more of those downtown.

delmar2debaliviere2downtown · PostMar 05, 2025#11752025-03-05T22:02+00:00

Yea, I think this is a huge negative. The chef was a great guy and has vision. I think he could definitely build a following with time. Hate that he’s not staying in the region. That’s a huge loss

I hope he moves to NY or LA. Then I can swallow it. But if he moves somewhere close or a similar size city, I will be really disappointed we aren’t finding ways to support more than casual dining downtown

MarkGroth2020 · PostMar 07, 2025#11762025-03-07T15:12+00:00

Gelateria on So. Grand burned. Good to hear no one was hurt, but the picture my wife sent looks pretty bad.

PostMar 07, 2025#11772025-03-07T15:15+00:00

MarkGroth2020 wrote: ↑
Mar 07, 2025
Gelateria on So. Grand burned. Good to hear no one was hurt, but the picture my wife sent looks pretty bad.

sorry, just saw there is another thread covering this...

Auggie · PostMar 18, 2025#11782025-03-18T20:09+00:00

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... nsary.html

Former Bobby's Place on Hampton to become a Kind Goods dispensary at a cost of about $1.5M.

PostMar 20, 2025#11792025-03-20T21:20+00:00

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -open.html

Moniker cocktail lounge to open fully in mid-April with a soft opening "soon" at 1000 Washington Ave.

Occupies 1,700 sf of space, will be able to seat 60 and has a 16 seat bar. Will have 15 employees.

bwcrow1s · PostMar 21, 2025#11802025-03-21T18:45+00:00

Auggie wrote: ↑
Mar 18, 2025
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... nsary.html

Former Bobby's Place on Hampton to become a Kind Goods dispensary at a cost of about $1.5M.

That's sobering.

Anyone else think Hampton north of Arsenal is one of the saddest stretches of stroad in the City? Zero plan for it. It's just vehicularly utilitarian at this point.

PeterXCV · PostMar 21, 2025#11812025-03-21T21:26+00:00

^Oh yeah, ever since they demo'd bradburn's for that QuickTrip it just looks like nonstop pavement. I gotta hope that apartment building next to Wendy's survives though I can't imagine it'd be easy getting a good night's sleep living there.

JaneJacobsGhost · PostMar 22, 2025#11822025-03-22T13:09+00:00

It would be cool to see a pre-war photo of this section of Hampton for comparison

delmar2debaliviere2downtown · PostMar 22, 2025#11832025-03-22T15:15+00:00

Yea, not our brightest spot in the city. It’s pretty inevitable when you inexplicably run two interstates parallel to each other. There’s literally no reason to have designed for both of those two interstates in the same area, one of the more atrocious overbuilding examples in the country. Hampton, Kingshighway, Grand, and Jefferson between 64 and 44 suffer because of it.

symphonicpoet · PostMar 23, 2025#11842025-03-23T05:45+00:00

^That is the absolute truth. 64 doesn't bother me quite as much since it's so close to the railroad tracks and Mill Creek Valley where there's always been something of a natural divide anyway, but allowing 44 so close to it really left the area between them completely widowed from everything.

quincunx · PostMar 23, 2025#11852025-03-23T12:43+00:00

I just love the noise and fine particulates while running in the park. What ghouls the highwaymen are.

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