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Opal's salvage yard it is about 7 blocks away from BUSH STADIUM CAN YOU SAY MW TOWER.

Count me in for the faux brick and vinyl look. Tres chic... And maybe, just maybe he'll give away a free scooter to each commercial tenant. Is there room for a Monster Scooter park?

MattnSTL wrote:It'd probably have vinyll on the sides.

Has it been sixty days yet? Wasn't that the rumor back in September, that KM wanted to wait 60 days to give out any details...?

bpe235 wrote:Has it been sixty days yet? Wasn't that the rumor back in September, that KM wanted to wait 60 days to give out any details...?

Not sure if McGowan is religous or not, but strict biblical scholars still believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old. Obviously, it's much older... Maybe the same phenomenon is occurring.

I've been wondering about this project as well. McGowan certainly has plenty of irons in the fire, and now it looks like he may be looking beyond Saint Louis for future projects...



McGowan is competing with Amrit and Amy Gill (among others) for the rights to redevelop the former Heer's (department store) on Park Central Square in downtown Springfield, Mo. I'm sure that wouldn't distract him from his signature project, though.

What I wouldn't give to have this (and by an American architect even):





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6191132.stm

This is one of my favorite buildings to be built in Chicago.

It's called "Aqua" and you can see why:







I'd love to see something a little spicier.

I like the Turning Torso in Sweden and the new 65-story skyscraper that just got approved in Nashville.

You'll all have the opportunity to register some opinions about tall buildings tomorrow, when MayorSlay.com releases its new Mini-Poll about skyscrapers.



Any pre-poll predictions on how respondents will answer this question:



St. Louis has some great examples of the old architecture. Would you like to see some modern high rise buildings in St. Louis?

Yes

No, no tall buildings

No, tall buildings are OK, but let’s not mix the old and the new

^ who's the person who answers "No, No tall buildings" ???

^^



What a dumb*ss question.

bpe235 wrote:^ who's the person who answers "No, No tall buildings" ???

Patti Teper.

bpe235 wrote:^ who's the person who answers "No, No tall buildings" ???

CRD

What a dumb*ss question.

Wait and see. There will be some no's -- either to the notion of tall buildings or the idea of modern architecture. Be sure to register your contrary opinions, and urge your friends to do the same.

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What a dumb*ss question.





Wait and see. There will be some no's -- either to the notion of tall buildings or the idea of modern architecture. Be sure to register your contrary opinions, and urge your friends to do the same.

I'm just saying it's a worthless question to ask. What's the point? How about: "St. Louis has seen periods of economic expansion and recession over time, would you like to see economic expansion?" or "St. Louis grew in population as a city and then population declined, would you like to see more people living in St. Louis?"



My point is: is the Mayor really concerned about whether people like tall, shiny buildings? Tall shiny buildings don't get built because people think they're neat, they get built as a result of a favorable economic landscape (i.e. demand).

stlmizzoutiger wrote:How do these small cities like Nashville manage to build buildings like this when St. Louis can't seem to get anything past planning stages? Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great big developments coming to or being built in St. Louis. I just don't like the way St. Louis tends to build big and wide rather than big and tall (I.E. huge rectangle office buildings like Citi Mortgage and the new Express Scripts HQ).

If our business community as a whole was actually committed to the revitalization of downtown instead of locating their offices in Clayton, Chesterfield, Creve Coeur, Westport, etc., we'd have buildings like that too.



Imagine the impact had Express Scripts decided to relocate downtown instead of to the UMSL campus.



Of course, a short commute for C-level executives is more important than a thriving downtown.

I heard Creve Coeur is considering increasing the amount of floors from 6 to around 10 as the maximum level without a special permit... which is odd becuase in a recent survey (that cost creve coeur a lot of money to conduct) the vast majority of people said they didn't want to turn into another clayton....



I would prefer to see mid rises (4 - 6 story max) everywhere except downtown STL, Clayton (since both are already well over that threshold) and possibly St Charles river front... but hey - people want to have employment centers near where they live - and most people who make choices for these companies live in creve coeur, chesterfield, st charles and clayton. Unitl you get more executives living downtown.. the growth is likely to be elsewhere...

stlmizzoutiger wrote:

St.Louis UAB alumni wrote:...and the new 65-story skyscraper that just got approved in Nashville.

How do these small cities like Nashville manage to build buildings like this when St. Louis can't seem to get anything past planning stages? Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great big developments coming to or being built in St. Louis. I just don't like the way St. Louis tends to build big and wide rather than big and tall (I.E. huge rectangle office buildings like Citi Mortgage and the new Express Scripts HQ).

Good question.



In the December issue of St. Louis Magazine, Sam Koplar says he wants to build "the tallest building in the Midwest" on the family's huge surface lot at the SE corner of North Kingshighway and Lindell Boulevard.



While I admire Koplar's vision and ambition, I fear that we'll wait an entire lifetime to see anything besides that damn surface lot. Based on the gestation period of other Koplar projects, I'm not very optimistic. Yeah, Maryland Plaza looks absolutely wonderful, but it only took about two decades.



And even though Kevin McGowan has an impressive record by anyone's measure, we're still waiting for that announcement about the MW Tower. And who knows what to expect with the developers of The Bottle District...

In the December issue of St. Louis Magazine, Sam Koplar says he wants to build "the tallest building in the Midwest" on the family's huge surface lot at the SE corner of North Kingshighway and Lindell Boulevard.

CR*P! (I'm having a negative day).



Exactly what chance is there for a 1,000ft+ building being built THERE! The shadow would literaly stretch across Delmar!!! Maybe Sam could go in with Kevin and some people with $$$ and build something downtown.

stlmizzoutiger wrote:

St.Louis UAB alumni wrote:...and the new 65-story skyscraper that just got approved in Nashville.

How do these small cities like Nashville manage to build buildings like this when St. Louis can't seem to get anything past planning stages? Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of great big developments coming to or being built in St. Louis. I just don't like the way St. Louis tends to build big and wide rather than big and tall (I.E. huge rectangle office buildings like Citi Mortgage and the new Express Scripts HQ).

I was down in Nashville about a month ago and still wondered how it was being built. I think the only thing driving it might be all the country music stars with tons of money who might snap up condos. If it wasn't for country music tourism there would be nothing to downtown Nashville.



As of right now there's nothing in the way of residential in downtown Nashville. And besides Nissan and Bellsouth sharing space in the one tower there's not much business downtown either. The only real activity seems to come from the state capital.

tbspqr wrote:I would prefer to see mid rises (4 - 6 story max) everywhere except downtown STL, Clayton (since both are already well over that threshold) and possibly St Charles river front... but hey - people want to have employment centers near where they live - and most people who make choices for these companies live in creve coeur, chesterfield, st charles and clayton. Unitl you get more executives living downtown.. the growth is likely to be elsewhere...

I agree...Heck, I've said it before, and i'll say it again... Now that much of the current building stock is being renovated in and around town, I would love to see some new buildings erected. (even if they are only 4-6 stories..)

In the December issue of St. Louis Magazine, Sam Koplar says he wants to build "the tallest building in the Midwest" on the family's huge surface lot at the SE corner of North Kingshighway and Lindell Boulevard.

REALLY...What? I don't get it and definately not my first choice but for the sake of convo... how would you all feel if this somehow came to fruition in the next couple years?