^ I believe that house on Lynch is probably from more like 1865 or older. It's a stone cottage, like you would see in Carondelet, that has been stuccoed over. I only know of a couple other examples in Soulard, and the one in ruins at 1111 Missouri.
Geo St. Louis: 2205 Lynch St.roger wyoming II wrote:^ yes, demo of the Missouri Belting Building should be denied. Those first two buildings (the Lynch Street one dates to 1885 and the Dodier Street one is possible even older) are both sited in the rear of the lot, which in general I think is kind of neat.
Geo St. Louis: 1907 Dodier St.
No pics on Geo St. Louis but from Street View (it's the flounder in the back):
The ones on the 1900 block of Sullivan (and there are others nearby)? Those are Habitat for Humanity homes if I recall correctly. And yes, they're exceptionally well-done.roger wyoming II wrote:Also, I'm not sure who is behind the newer housing in the Old North around the Dodier Street property but its rather cool.... reminds me of some of the stuff that is being built in NOLA post-Katrina. (I'm not sure how to post a screen grab of google maps.)
EDIT: Oh, and for the screen grab - newer windows versions have an application called the snipping tool that you can use to draw a box around what you want to capture and then save that to a .jpg file. If you don't have that, then you can press ALT and the PrtScrn button on your keyboard to copy a shot of your active window to the clipboard. Then open MS Paint, paste it in there, and save to a .jpg.
Once you have the .jpg you can upload it to your picture hosting service of choice.
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so what happened with the Missouri Belting Building demolition appeal?
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I believe the meeting was postponed until today. They had originally been scheduled to meet last Monday... the day of the grand jury announcement.
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Anyone know of the outcome of the Polar Wave building in Soulard? I believe it was on appeal of denial.
Next meeting monday Dec 15
per preliminary agenda one preliminary review
1219 DOLMAN STREET : Construct single-family house in Lafayette square
The rest are appeals of denials for signs, retaining walls and such.
per preliminary agenda one preliminary review
1219 DOLMAN STREET : Construct single-family house in Lafayette square
The rest are appeals of denials for signs, retaining walls and such.
The two blocks of Dolman north of Park have really developed nicely in the past 5 years - from urban wasteland to what is starting to look like a complete street - Though I not a fan of the complete historic reproductions, many of them look nice and there is a lot of variety that gives the street an organ look.imran wrote:Next meeting monday Dec 15
per preliminary agenda one preliminary review
1219 DOLMAN STREET : Construct single-family house in Lafayette square
The rest are appeals of denials for signs, retaining walls and such.
Hopefully this can carry north to the large parking lot just to the north of where Dolman circles into 18th. the parking lot there is pretty heinous and detracts from the building that has the Gasthaus (is that place still open?) which use to hug the street with the curved form
Next meeting January 26
PRELIMINARY REVIEWS
3972 SHAW BOULEVARD
Construct a new classroom building.
St. Margaret of Scotland School
The Lawrence Group
2739 ALLEN AVENUE
Construct an addition to house.
Fox Park Historic District Ward: 6
Dana Mills
245 UNION BOULEVARD
Erect monument sign.
Central West End Historic District Ward:28
City Apartments @ West End
APPEAL OF DENIAL
2215-17 INDIANA AVENUE
Replace fourteen (14) windows.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
Donald and Virginia Graham
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEMS
Nominations to the National Register of Historic Places:
Shriners’ Hospital - 700-28 South Euclid Ave.
Owner: Washington University
The Shell Building – 1221 Locust Street
Owner: RSDB, LLC
Introduction to the Compatible Contemporary Design Standards project.
PRELIMINARY REVIEWS
3972 SHAW BOULEVARD
Construct a new classroom building.
St. Margaret of Scotland School
The Lawrence Group
2739 ALLEN AVENUE
Construct an addition to house.
Fox Park Historic District Ward: 6
Dana Mills
245 UNION BOULEVARD
Erect monument sign.
Central West End Historic District Ward:28
City Apartments @ West End
APPEAL OF DENIAL
2215-17 INDIANA AVENUE
Replace fourteen (14) windows.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
Donald and Virginia Graham
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEMS
Nominations to the National Register of Historic Places:
Shriners’ Hospital - 700-28 South Euclid Ave.
Owner: Washington University
The Shell Building – 1221 Locust Street
Owner: RSDB, LLC
Introduction to the Compatible Contemporary Design Standards project.
wonder is there any plans soon to add apartments in to the shell buildingimran wrote:Next meeting January 26
PRELIMINARY REVIEWS
3972 SHAW BOULEVARD
Construct a new classroom building.
St. Margaret of Scotland School
The Lawrence Group
2739 ALLEN AVENUE
Construct an addition to house.
Fox Park Historic District Ward: 6
Dana Mills
245 UNION BOULEVARD
Erect monument sign.
Central West End Historic District Ward:28
City Apartments @ West End
APPEAL OF DENIAL
2215-17 INDIANA AVENUE
Replace fourteen (14) windows.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
Donald and Virginia Graham
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEMS
Nominations to the National Register of Historic Places:
Shriners’ Hospital - 700-28 South Euclid Ave.
Owner: Washington University
The Shell Building – 1221 Locust Street
Owner: RSDB, LLC
Introduction to the Compatible Contemporary Design Standards project.
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^ good call. there really are so many potential residential conversions to keep population growth going for a long time; but it would be nice to get a bit of new construction to shine things up as well.
Nice to see Shriner's Hospital on the list, it was slated for demolition in an earlier version of the Wash U/BJC master plan. The more recent versions implied that it might be kept, but this is the clearest indication of its preservation that I've seen so far.
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Not quite sure where to put this, but Post-Dispatch has a nice q&a with Brent Crittenden and plans for UIC:
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... f8f4b.html
He has some interesting things to say about the HTCs and the role of the Preservation Board in evaluating new construction in historic districts. And for his hope to expand the community-building model to other neighborhoods and possibly other cities as they grow. Hopefully they can grow into North City soon.
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... f8f4b.html
He has some interesting things to say about the HTCs and the role of the Preservation Board in evaluating new construction in historic districts. And for his hope to expand the community-building model to other neighborhoods and possibly other cities as they grow. Hopefully they can grow into North City soon.
The final agenda for 1/26 has posted
There are a couple of additions:
2617 Shenandoah Avenue
Preliminary Review Application for rehabilitation of the Emmaus Lutheran School
Fox Park Local Historic District — Ward 7
1219 Dolman Street
Lafayette Square HD . (Second Submission with changes after the Dec 15th meeting. Approval recommended now)
Construct single family house
There are a couple of additions:
2617 Shenandoah Avenue
Preliminary Review Application for rehabilitation of the Emmaus Lutheran School
Fox Park Local Historic District — Ward 7
1219 Dolman Street
Lafayette Square HD . (Second Submission with changes after the Dec 15th meeting. Approval recommended now)
Construct single family house
Next meeting monday, February 23, 2015
Preliminary agenda as follows
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM:
Public Meeting: Introduction: A Thematic Survey of Founder Houses in St. Louis City
Cultural Resources Office
PRELIMINARY REVIEWS:
5766 Pershing Avenue
Construct a single family dwelling.
Skinker-DeBaliviere Catlin Tract Historic District Ward: 28
Owner/Applicant: Kevin Logan
1809-11 and 1813-15 South 7th Street
Demolition of alley building and alterations to front property.
Soulard Historic District Ward: 7
Owner: Dewey and Zilpah Wyatt
APPEALS OF DENIALS
744 and 750 South 4TH Street
Project Description: Demolish two commercial buildings.
4942-44 McPherson Avenue
Wrap fourteen (14) windows and sills.
Central West End Historic District Ward: 28
William and Charlotte Castillo
5528-40 Pershing Avenue
Street-facing openings on front façade.
Façade brick and stone re-laid without a permit.
Central West End Historic District Ward: 26
Owner: Kilamanjaro III
Applicant: Asprient Properties
2215-17 Indiana Avenue
Replace fourteen (14) windows and retain non-compliant door.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
Donald and Virginia Graham
Preliminary agenda as follows
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM:
Public Meeting: Introduction: A Thematic Survey of Founder Houses in St. Louis City
Cultural Resources Office
PRELIMINARY REVIEWS:
5766 Pershing Avenue
Construct a single family dwelling.
Skinker-DeBaliviere Catlin Tract Historic District Ward: 28
Owner/Applicant: Kevin Logan
1809-11 and 1813-15 South 7th Street
Demolition of alley building and alterations to front property.
Soulard Historic District Ward: 7
Owner: Dewey and Zilpah Wyatt
APPEALS OF DENIALS
744 and 750 South 4TH Street
Project Description: Demolish two commercial buildings.
4942-44 McPherson Avenue
Wrap fourteen (14) windows and sills.
Central West End Historic District Ward: 28
William and Charlotte Castillo
5528-40 Pershing Avenue
Street-facing openings on front façade.
Façade brick and stone re-laid without a permit.
Central West End Historic District Ward: 26
Owner: Kilamanjaro III
Applicant: Asprient Properties
2215-17 Indiana Avenue
Replace fourteen (14) windows and retain non-compliant door.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
Donald and Virginia Graham
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yikes on the Chouteau's Landing buildings.imran wrote:Next meeting monday, February 23, 2015
Preliminary agenda as follows
SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM:
Public Meeting: Introduction: A Thematic Survey of Founder Houses in St. Louis City
Cultural Resources Office
PRELIMINARY REVIEWS:
5766 Pershing Avenue
Construct a single family dwelling.
Skinker-DeBaliviere Catlin Tract Historic District Ward: 28
Owner/Applicant: Kevin Logan
1809-11 and 1813-15 South 7th Street
Demolition of alley building and alterations to front property.
Soulard Historic District Ward: 7
Owner: Dewey and Zilpah Wyatt
APPEALS OF DENIALS
744 and 750 South 4TH Street
Project Description: Demolish two commercial buildings.
4942-44 McPherson Avenue
Wrap fourteen (14) windows and sills.
Central West End Historic District Ward: 28
William and Charlotte Castillo
5528-40 Pershing Avenue
Street-facing openings on front façade.
Façade brick and stone re-laid without a permit.
Central West End Historic District Ward: 26
Owner: Kilamanjaro III
Applicant: Asprient Properties
2215-17 Indiana Avenue
Replace fourteen (14) windows and retain non-compliant door.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
Donald and Virginia Graham
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looks to be the slender red-brick building at the north end of the row and the squat garage farther south?roger wyoming II wrote: yikes on the Chouteau's Landing buildings.
the garage i could maybe see as it looks to be crumbling but no way in hell should any of the others be touched.
and given the fiasco over the last demolition on 4th street i'm not confident we wouldn't lose the entire row due to a "typo" or "mistake".
i suspect the owner wants a parking lot to cash in on baseball games. if that's the case, ***** him/her.
We need to email the Preservation ask them not to demo 744 and 750 south 4th street we need to save the row of buildings not tare half of it down them down i just email them about it https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... ion-board/
It looks like the demo request ( and appeal of denial of demo request) have been removed from the final agenda. Will probably resurface next month (sigh)
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^ or a "clerical error" will result in their demolition and there'll be no consequences for anyone.
Preliminary agenda for March 23rd meeting
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... 3-2015.pdf
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... 3-2015.pdf
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... -23-15.pdf
The final agenda is up. The 5 homes in Benton Park each have a different roof line which makes the block very interesting.
The final agenda is up. The 5 homes in Benton Park each have a different roof line which makes the block very interesting.