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PostAug 08, 2007#151

^

I think you can actually get to the lobby through the library.

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PostAug 08, 2007#152

Ok, I was skipping around a lot, but I thought the posts looked like the OPO is still just a vacant building. I see now. Coolness. Im thinking about going to Webster for my Master's in the spring.

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PostAug 08, 2007#153

City officials unveil plaza plans

By Jake Wagman

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

08/08/2007

Downtown Plaza

A view of the proposed Downtown Plaza.



ST. LOUIS – City officials unveiled plans this morning for a new plaza downtown, an “urban opera” next to the Old Post Office that will include a waterfall and performance space.



Construction on the plaza, on Locust Street between 9th and 10th Streets, will begin immediately, with the completion goal of April 2008.



“It will be a place for quiet reflection,” said Ron Kruszewski, chairman of Downtown Now, the civic group that owns the land – an old parking lot – and will maintain the park.


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Between 9th and 10th on Locust eh? Good to see the PD is all over basic fact checking.

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PostAug 08, 2007#154

^Not to mention that there are three grammatical and spelling errors in that short story.

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PostAug 08, 2007#155

More renderings:



wait..can't post...will send to mattnstl...

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PostAug 08, 2007#156

Send them to me. I will get them up.

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PostAug 09, 2007#157

More tidbits from the St Louis Front Page:



Old Post Office Plaza to Feature Signature Sculpture



http://www.slfp.com/CitySide.htm



This quote will interest the Greek scholars in the forum:
He (Baird Sampson) said that the public art purchased by Gateway Foundation, a sculpture "Torso di Ikaro", inspired the design for the area. "We became quite interested in the name which is a reference to Icarus, son of Daedalus.



"In renewing our knowledge of the classical myth, we discovered that Daedalus was associated with public squares in ancient Greece," said Sampson. "We thought it would be appropriate to use this urban figure, who was also the designer of the Labyrinth."

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PostAug 09, 2007#158

St. Louis To Get New Downtown Plaza



Created: 8/8/2007 7:41:07 PM

Last updated: 8/8/2007 9:06:12 PM



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By BETSY TAYLOR

Associated Press Writer



ST. LOUIS (AP) -- A new plaza in downtown St. Louis -- scheduled to open next spring with an outdoor balcony, cascading water and sculpture -- will also be a place for lunchtime and evening music, movie screenings and street performances.Advertisement







The roughly $8 million project, across the street from the redeveloped Old Post Office building, will include a sculpture by Igor Mitoraj.



Architect Barry Sampson said Wednesday that the sculpture's reference to the ancient Greek myth of Daedalus and Icarus helped inspire the plaza's design, by the firm Baird Sampson Neuert of Toronto.



Daedalus created the labyrinth on Crete and sometimes is described as the first architect. He was associated with public squares in ancient Greece, Sampson said. In the myth, Daedalus constructed wings for himself and Icarus to leave Crete, but when Icarus flew too close to the sun, the wings softened in the heat and Icarus fell into the sea.



Sampson said the new 30,000-square-foot plaza includes a central square, and a glade of trees at the east, with benches forming a symbolic labyrinth. A walkway at the back of the plaza will lead to a balcony, tying into the idea of flight and creating a high location where visitors can take in the view. A water basin wraps around the square, with a three-story water cascade next to the balcony.



A wall at the rear of the plaza, near the Roberts Orpheum Theater, will provide a site to view movies and other images.



The Gateway Foundation, the Danforth Foundation, Downtown St. Louis Partnership and Downtown Now! worked on the plaza, with additional financial support from other groups. The privately owned plaza will be open to the public.



(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)





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It's a good thing that we here already have a good idea of what this is...otherwise we would be a "little confused" after this description! GEEEESH Louise!!

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PostAug 09, 2007#159

The Greek theme sounds like it could be cool.

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PostAug 09, 2007#160

symbolic labyrinth? A symbol of confusion?

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PostAug 09, 2007#161

Say what you will, but the OPO Plaza has received positive coverage by nearly every media outlet in town. I believe every TV station covered it last night and it was mentioned again on KWMU. IMO - the more often this type of announcement/reception can repeat the better for the perception of downtown. I like the plaza, but will be somewhat surprised if the huge screen in the rendering is actually put up - it seems that every public space designed these days has a huge screen.

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Grover wrote:Say what you will, but the OPO Plaza has received positive coverage by nearly every media outlet in town. I believe every TV station covered it last night and it was mentioned again on KWMU. IMO - the more often this type of announcement/reception can repeat the better for the perception of downtown. I like the plaza, but will be somewhat surprised if the huge screen in the rendering is actually put up - it seems that every public space designed these days has a huge screen.


Good point. Turning a vacant lot into a nice plaza is something that people who don't know much about downtown St. Louis or urbanism will take as a positive for downtown, and the design is good enough that most of us who follow downtown issues on a daily basis will be happy with it.



I like the design of this plaza and was glad to hear that there is planned programming to draw people to it at different times of the day throughout the year. They should hire this design team to give Kiener Plaza a makeover.

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PostAug 09, 2007#163

They should hire this design team to give Kiener Plaza a makeover.


They should! unlike the current plans to completely demolish it.



I think this OPO Plaza looks excellent. very big city. way to go St. Louis! They better include that screen. Places such as this define downtown as being the TRUE urban living refuge for the region, not places like downtown Clayton.

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PostAug 09, 2007#164

Another mediocre plaza to complement the ones downtown that nobody uses. So if they build a plaza here, does that mean we can never construct a building on it in the future. At least there's plenty of parking nearby :roll:

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PostAug 09, 2007#165

Putting past negatives aside, this is really an exciting project and if/when the Roberts Tower gets built the Old Post district will be the best part of downtown.

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PostAug 09, 2007#166

brickandmortar wrote:Another mediocre plaza to complement the ones downtown that nobody uses. So if they build a plaza here, does that mean we can never construct a building on it in the future.


Maybe the plaza will be so popular that we won't want to build a building on it.



Now the "plaza" (or rather, driveway) in front of the U.S. Bank Building, that's another story.

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PostAug 09, 2007#167

I like it and think it's a really cool idea. The outdoor screen reminds me of the new W Hotel in Victory Park in Dallas, except ours is stationary.



Good stuff.

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PostAug 09, 2007#168

After looking at that rendering, it's way too crowded for my taste. I'll go on a colder day when there aren't so many people there.

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PostAug 09, 2007#169

It's definitely a plus sign for downtown that they were able to get so many digitial people into the rendering! I'd heard that digitalized people, fed up with the lack of city services and angry at the highcost of broadband, were moving to St. Charles County in droves.

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PostAug 09, 2007#170

Is the Icarus theme supposed to serve as a conservative cautionary reminder to Saint Louis? Why not Apollo?



Like the overall design though, and it's always nice when downtown gets positive fanfare.

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PostAug 09, 2007#171

I just walked by, and work is underway!

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PostAug 09, 2007#172

Good to see they aren't waiting around to get started after the ground breaking.

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PostAug 09, 2007#173

From the PD article:


Jim Cloar, executive director and president of Downtown Now, said that because his group owns the plaza grounds, the group will have more flexibility in caring for the area — including taking steps, if necessary, to prevent it from becoming an oasis for the homeless, which has already happened to some downtown parks. Work will begin immediately, with the hope of opening the plaza by spring.


=D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostAug 09, 2007#174

Quick somebody call the ACLU……...

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PostAug 09, 2007#175

you know - homeless or not - i can see the appeal of taking a bath next to the torso of Icarus

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