Is there any update on this project? Any confirmation on the plans for this location?
That is probably the last thing that anyone wants to read on this blog.debaliviere wrote:Apparently SLU has purchased it.
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^Who would win in a fight? Pevely Dairy complex or a hurricane? Is the hurricane's name Biondi?
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We'll see. It's in the 17th Ward - Joe Roddy. My take is that he has an appreciation for historic architecture - this may not trump all other considerations, but I wouldn't expect any under-handed attempt at a demo permit, etc. We'll see...
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I highly doubt SLU would want to demo this building just for a parking lot...they want to build up the Medical Campus and tie it into the Main campus via the new Grand Bridge. Having an empty parking lot at this intersection would only create more space between the two. I can see them renovating them into dorms for Medical students and buying the properties to the South (gas station, etc...) to create a landscaped, green campus walkway to have mirror Doisy across the street.
Does SLU have an extensive history of demolishing buildings for parking lots? Absolutely yes. However, in this case I feel that they realize the opportunity that awaits them on expanding the Med Campus even more.
Does SLU have an extensive history of demolishing buildings for parking lots? Absolutely yes. However, in this case I feel that they realize the opportunity that awaits them on expanding the Med Campus even more.
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Let's hope so, Chaifetz. It's always been one of my favorite buildings.
I don't know how well SLU's med school and main campus will ever be "connected" but doing the new Grand Bridge correctly and rehabbing this building would go a long way.
I don't know how well SLU's med school and main campus will ever be "connected" but doing the new Grand Bridge correctly and rehabbing this building would go a long way.
He also has an appreciation for powerful institutions. If the two conflict, which does he appreciate more? I have a guess, but I don't want to be too negative while there's no real info to go on yet...Alex Ihnen wrote:It's in the 17th Ward - Joe Roddy. My take is that he has an appreciation for historic architecture
Perhaps. The environs around the Doisy building are the most recent development I know about for the SLU med campus, and since it's right across the street it might give us the best idea for what the future could look like. Four blocks of green space with one (admittedly nice) building on it doesn't reflect an institution going for density. Unless a massive expansion is in the works there's an excess of developable land around SLU med already (VanishingSTL post on recent demos).chaifetz10 wrote:in this case I feel that they realize the opportunity that awaits them on expanding the Med Campus even more.
Per Building Blocks, it doesn't sound like there are any immediate plans:
I don't think SLU has a great track record with handling buildings at intersections, so I'm not optimistic this one will be any better. Maybe since there's already a fountain on the Doisy side of Grand, though, we can keep the Pevely buildings.SLU President Lawrence Biondi doesn't have much to say, either. As part of his regular message to the university community, Biondi noted this week the purchase of the Pevely site and SLU's previous acquistion of a former truck lot owned by Cortex at the northwest corner of Grand and Chouteau.
"With our Doisy Research Center, we now control three of the four corners of this key intersection," Biondi said in his message.
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"Although we have not determined uses for these properties, it was logical to take advantage of opportunities that made it financially feasible for us to secure these key sites near our Medical Center," Biondi's message says.
Every time I think about this deal I think of Warren Buffet and his latest move to inveset in BofA, buy cheap while someone is down because you can. In this case, the credit market is nowhere to be found and a number of projects are stalled due to lack of financing. As far as expansion plans, my other thought. How long has SLU's law school expansion been on the drawing board?
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How long has SLU's law school expansion been on the drawing board?
Good question. Although the initial fundraising stages were rocky, SLU has been making a big push in their fundraising efforts for the new law school. The new Dean (Annette Clark) has really put an emphasis on fundraising. The expansion will actually take place in a two part phase. Part 1 is updating/remodeling the existing building and Part II is the actual expansion into that rock parking lot along Lindell.
The last I heard SLU expects to have all the of fundraising for Part I completed by the end of the year.
Just heard that SLU has applied for a demolition permit for the entire Pevely site without a redevelopment plan.
The scorch earth policy marches on.stlgasm wrote:Just heard that SLU has applied for a demolition permit for the entire Pevely site without a redevelopment plan.
Is this a sick joke? Hopefully this demolition is not allowed to go trough. With no immediate development plan? Hopefully this is met with serious opposition. Horrible plan!
No joke. His source is as legit as it gets. This will go to the Preservation Board, so people need to make their voices heard.goat314 wrote:Is this a sick joke? Hopefully this demolition is not allowed to go trough. With no immediate development plan? Hopefully this is met with serious opposition. Horrible plan!
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I was afraid of this.
Biondi's latest newsletter hinted at hospital expansion/ medical campus expansion and no use for the Pevely building. There has got to be a way to save the building.
Biondi's latest newsletter hinted at hospital expansion/ medical campus expansion and no use for the Pevely building. There has got to be a way to save the building.
Save Pevely Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/SavePevely
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Time to get organized... This is just an awful idea - so shortsighted.
I've always thought the SLU campus could use more vacant real estate.
This is a terrible idea, but not surprising. Part of the problem is that non-profits usually don't pay property taxes, so it costs them nothing to hold on to land, especially if there are no existing buildings to maintain.
This is already such a desolate corner. Chouteau, which really should be an important east-west avenue running all the way from the river to Kingshighway, struggles so much, and every demolition makes it worse.
This is a terrible idea, but not surprising. Part of the problem is that non-profits usually don't pay property taxes, so it costs them nothing to hold on to land, especially if there are no existing buildings to maintain.
This is already such a desolate corner. Chouteau, which really should be an important east-west avenue running all the way from the river to Kingshighway, struggles so much, and every demolition makes it worse.
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The Post-Dispatch has added a report on SLU's application for a demolition permit:
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 0f31a.html
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 0f31a.html
Permit applications SLU filed Oct. 26 will likely be considered by the city's Preservation Board at its next meeting, scheduled for Nov. 28.
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Replacing it with a dreary office building: http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 0f31a.html
They have to tear the buildings down, because there are no lots to build on, especially not right next door to their current doctors building.
They have to tear the buildings down, because there are no lots to build on, especially not right next door to their current doctors building.
Let's not be so negative right away. They are at least trying to preserve some parts of it. I guess we rather let the building just stay as it is as the alternative? Not trying to offend any one who likes this building but I consider this an eye sore in its current condition. I is a shame that they don't have renderings. But wouldn't the board reject them if they had no renderings to prove how they are trying to incorporate some of the existing features?
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"an eye sore in its current condition" - yeah, sure, of course. I'm not for letting buildings sit for decades (though many of those have been and are now being restored in the city), but being satisfied with anything better than the current state is a recipe for a dull, uninteresting, bland, lifeless city. What would be the result if for the past decade all eyesores were demolished? Shortsighted.
By the way, SLU would still be happy demo'ing the whole thing. That's what they want. At the first sign of opposition they say, "hey, we might be able to save the smokestack and part of the facade of one building...". This is the game.
By the way, SLU would still be happy demo'ing the whole thing. That's what they want. At the first sign of opposition they say, "hey, we might be able to save the smokestack and part of the facade of one building...". This is the game.