This idea was posted on Twitter a couple of days ago, and I really like it:
Soccer City St. Louis. SCStL or SC St Louis or SC Saint Louis for short.
Use the Apotheosis with "Soccer City" in a shielded logo using the awesome colors of the St. Louis City flag.
Again, to me, this is like the “BFIB” deal. It is arrogant and will not be well received by other soccer cities. I’m not a fan of “STL Legacy FC” either. It again, sort of implies that we are THE SOCCER CITY in the US. WE are the only city with a history. I just don’t like that.
I hope they go “boring” with FC St. Louis, St. Louis United (Hopefully MLS will unite the region) or something like that.
Just my opinion.
I really like the name St. Louis City/County United. It’s a name that could really bring the region together and possibly get people comfortable with the idea of change and collaboration within the region.
LordOfLindenwoodPark wrote:
I really like the name St. Louis City/County United. It’s a name that could really bring the region together and possibly get people comfortable with the idea of change and collaboration within the region.
MLS has basically said you can't have United in the name anymore. And city/county that would just be way too much of a mouthful anyway. I personally don't need a team name with some kind of politics involved. Nothing with the team name is going to make someone all of the sudden change their mind on the city/county divide. Or should it be St. Louis city/county/metro east IL side United?
Keep it St. Louis (something). I would perfer no FC involved to keep it seperate from the USL team. SC St Louis , AC St. Louis. St. Louis (mascot name) are all fine with me.
chaifetz10 wrote:
I'd personally like AC St. Louis, where AC means both Arch City & Athletic Club.
I'm not a fan of anything "Euro". However, I do like twists on traditional soccer names. "AC" being an acronym for "Arch City" is fire. Right in line with "SC" for "Soccer City".
Whatever the name, make it a North American/Domestic name - preferably including/emphasizing the name of our great city "St. Louis" or "Saint Louis". We should be proud of that and let it show in the team's name.
The only naming idea I've seen that doesn't include "StL" or "St Louis", etc would be "Gateway City United". But, I'd want the city flag colors for the "kits" that include a fleur de lis and/or the interlocking StL on the shirt or shorts.
To be honest, I cringe every time I see a US soccer team copying a European name ("United" etc). There are historical reasons why clubs/associations were named like that. "Real" in particular kills me. The US is not a monarchy, and definitely not a Spanish-speaking monarchy.
To be honest, I cringe every time I see a US soccer team copying a European name ("United" etc). There are historical reasons why clubs/associations were named like that. "Real" in particular kills me. The US is not a monarchy, and definitely not a Spanish-speaking monarchy.
LOL, yes. And made more incongruous by the fact that Salt Lake City is not exactly a hotbed of Hispanic culture. Kind of like the Utah Jazz...
kipfilet wrote:
To be honest, I cringe every time I see a US soccer team copying a European name ("United" etc). There are historical reasons why clubs/associations were named like that. "Real" in particular kills me. The US is not a monarchy, and definitely not a Spanish-speaking monarchy.
100% this.
The only thing that attracts me to "Gateway United" is the United has implications of bringing City and County together to support the team.
kipfilet wrote:
I'm all for using the Apotheosis in the logo as opposed to some millionth generic variation of the arch.
I would be very surprised, unless they used some heavily-modified, innocuous reference to it like a generic knight image, and nobody wants that. I can only think of one place that it is still used on any sort of public insignia, seal, etc.; that is the SLMPD shoulder patch (it's almost unrecognizable though), and which is inherently politically incorrect anyway...
That would be interesting to have Saint Louis in the name. Hadn’t really expected that. Going with the whole Catholic angle. It’d dovetail with use of the apotheosis iconography.
That would be interesting to have Saint Louis in the name. Hadn’t really expected that. Going with the whole Catholic angle. It’d dovetail with use of the apotheosis iconography.
lol, then they might as well go whole-hog and call the team the Saint Louis Crusaders.
^I would like a tweaked version of this logo. That would be perfect. Add a larger fleur de lis and slightly tweak for the pro team, change the colors. That would be perfect.
Which is odd because the statue on Art Hill is holding up the sword with his right arm. Might be cool to have a logo that includes the St. Louis statue, the Arch and a fleur de lis.
Make each symbol prominent in the logo, with the confluence flag in the background. That would be awesome!
Interesting history on Wiki.
Apotheosis of St. Louis is a statue of King Louis IX of France, namesake of St. Louis, Missouri, located in front of the Saint Louis Art Museum in Forest Park. Part of the iconography of St. Louis, the statue was the principal symbol of the city between its erection in 1906 and the construction of the Gateway Arch in the mid-1960s.
History
The bronze statue that stands in Forest Park today was donated to Forest Park by the Louisiana Purchase Exposition Company after the 1904 World's Fair. It is a replica of a plaster statue that stood on the concourse of the Plaza of St. Louis, near the main entrance to the fair (where the Missouri History Museum now stands). Its sculptor, Charles Henry Niehaus, offered to create a bronze version of the plaster model for $90,000. Instead, the company took a lower $37,500 bid from a local artist, W. R. Hodges. Niehaus sued the company for infringement of his intellectual property rights, and he was awarded $3,000 and "designed by C. H. Niehaus" inscribed on the pedestal. It was unveiled on October 4, 1906.[1]
On the west side of the pedestal is the inscription, "Presented to the City of St. Louis by the Louisiana Purchase Exposition in commemoration of the Universal Exposition of 1904 held on this site." The north and south sides are inscribed "Saint Louis."[2]
The statue featured heavily in St. Louis iconography until the completion of the Gateway Arch in the 1960s. The statue in profile is the image on the arms and Distinctive Unit Insignia of the 138th Infantry Regiment (aka "The First Missouri" and "St. Louis' Own'") of the U.S. Army and Missouri National Guard. It was used as part of the logo for the St. Louis Browns in the 1930s and 40s. In 2008 it was resurrected by St. Louis Soccer United for use on their logo and converted to Joan of Arc for the St. Louis Athletica. This transmutation was made legitimate by the reconciling of Arc with Arch.
Over the years, Saint Louis' sword has been broken or stolen a number of times. It was replaced in 1970, 1972, 1977 and 1981.Stealing, and later returning, the sword was considered a rite of passage for students in the engineering program at nearby Washington University. The statue was restored in 1999 by Russell-Marti Conservation Services for $23,000
DogtownBnR wrote:
^I would like a tweaked version of this logo. That would be perfect. Add a larger fleur de lis and slightly tweak for the pro team, change the colors. That would be perfect.
Yes yes yes
Primary colors: red, blue
Secondary/highlight colors: yellow
Black02AltimaSE wrote:
St. Louis Scott Gallagher soccer club uses a stylized version of the Apotheosis in their logo:
Which is fine for a local club. I don't think it will fly on a major league level though. There is a reason why Saint Louis is holding the hilt of his sword up that way after all...whichever hand he uses.
“Have you seen the St. Louis flag? It’s awesome — it should be emblazoned across the uniforms of our team. It’s a striking red, with blue rivers meeting at a yellow-and-blue fleur de lis. The flag represents the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. I love that word. Confluence. It could represent St. Louisans coming together, merging with MLS to create something significant. Heck, call the St. Louis team FC Confluence. We are soccer’s gateway.”
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The word confluence is defined as “the act of merging and coming together” — that's what the St. Louis community is doing with this soccer team. So let's name the team STL Confluence or St. Louis Confluence or FC Confluence. It's a unique word. It's a cool word. It's our word. And it's not much different from the word “United,” used in many MLS team names (such as DC United, Atlanta United and, internationally, with the famed Manchester United
