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PostSep 04, 2019#226

Lemp/Falstaff could still happen. I think Foundry was the better investment at the time simply due to location. It's adjacent to SLU, SLU Med, to Cortex, to the Central West End, just north of the Grove, and not far from Midtown Alley or the MLS stadium they were pitching. 

I just really hope Falstaff can be salvaged. That area of town could really be so darn cool. The Benton Park, McKinley Heights, and Fox Park areas are definitely improving. There's such potential there. 

I'm not sure which between Falstaff and Lemp which I think would be more difficult to develop if all things were made equal. Lemp is at the end of an already somewhat popular stretch of restaurants and stores, but Cherokee is so disjointed from everything else and feels like an island in the middle of nowhere.

In the end, they both have significant challenges. 

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PostSep 04, 2019#227

KansasCitian wrote: The Benton Park, McKinley Heights, and Fox Park areas are definitely improving.
Curious what you mean by improving?

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PostSep 04, 2019#228

I think you're seeing an influx of home repairs, especially in Benton Park. 

Benton Park is way nicer today than it was five years ago. 

Obviously, those neighborhoods still have a looooooong way to go. 

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PostSep 05, 2019#229

I live in McKinley. Maybe if we saying, becoming the next CWE it has a long way to go but just being a good, stable STL neighborhood, I don't agree at all. And Benton Park doesn't have long to go at all with houses going for 400k and being snapped up pretty quick.

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PostSep 06, 2019#230

In any other city the Falstaff facade, at least, would be stabilized until something new could be built behind. Apparently that's not a thing that happens in St. Louis, though.

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PostDec 27, 2019#232

Didn't see this coming but is it possible that Weed is what saves Lemp Brewery Complex??  Have to say its intriguing and you can say that Lemp's history might go from brewing one type of plant(s) to growing another all for the name of consumption and self mediation.   Interesting to note a few St. Louis location granted license to grow including a N. Broadway warehouse location

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... c576c.html

A building in the long-shuttered Lemp Brewery complex is among more than a dozen St. Louis area locations granted licenses Thursday to grow marijuana for Missouri’s fledgling medical cannabis

Max Bonanno, a consultant to Blue Arrow Holdings LLC, said the newly formed company plans to retrofit the Lemp Brewery building in the 3400 block of South Broadway to grow cannabis indoors.

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PostDec 27, 2019#233

When you read the site requirements for growing facilities, this will be very closed off and secure. Not sure if this does much to change the outside look of Lemp

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PostDec 27, 2019#234

^ The plus side is one of the Lemp buidlings would finally house a tax generating profit based business that will require some upfront investment.  Might not change much on the outside but I see the opportunity as a big step forward in keeping Lemp intact and stop the slow downward spiral. 

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PostAug 23, 2020#235

Part of the brewery collapsed this morning.

https://www.kmov.com/news/lemp-brewery- ... a9295.html

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PostAug 23, 2020#236

Yikes!


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PostAug 23, 2020#238

Some shots I took quickly this morning. I walk this spot a lot and a couple of weeks ago the corner that collapsed had a section of brick blown out. The structure must have been compromised. Hopefully the city can step up and save the rest but I am not holding my breath.

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PostAug 23, 2020#239

StlToday - Building at Lemp Brewery collapses, destroying hundreds of bicycles

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 8759d.html

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PostAug 23, 2020#240

sigh. how long until the rest comes down? who owns this place now? what's the long-term plan? seems like: minimal/no maintenance + lease bits and pieces until it all collapses. the Lemp complex is too large (and too important) for a single owner with apparently insufficient resources to maintain it.

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PostAug 23, 2020#241

If the rest of the collapsing building was stabilized, a developer could purchase it, build a glassy atrium where the lost portion once stood, and have something truly unique. The above building could be built to suit either office or residential. With all of the activity Benton Park is seeing, I'm surprised no one has at least tried something like this. It truly is a great location: easy access to the highway, a short walk from Benton Park, close to the hustle and bustle of Cherokee, and you're across the street from the best burger joint in the midwest. I get that the entire complex is massive, but it could be redeveloped in phases and become an anchor for the surrounding area. It would be depressing to see the brewery continue to waste away into eventual rubble.
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PostAug 23, 2020#242

It may be hard to redevelop into residential now since a marijuana growing place will be going into one of the buildings. There's probably some sort of limitations for what you can build in the near vicinity of a marijuana growing facility. So this complex may be stuck as a warehouse complex now.

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PostAug 24, 2020#243

They did a little street cleanup today.

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PostAug 24, 2020#244

I would never have guessed that this would be the local brewery complex to fall down first. :( Not that I'd be excited by any structural collapse, but that one particularly sucks. In at least one story I read they're already talking about additional demo, since the building is no longer stable. (Lack of a wall will do that to you.) I can't say how much. Didn't sound like they planned to bowl over the whole thing, but I have to assume it would be hard to even clear the collapsed area safely without first removing the back wall and shoring up what's left. Lord but this is an awful blow. :(

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PostAug 26, 2020#245

Happening now.


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PostAug 26, 2020#246

Crews on site today. Working on the back wall, cutting steps into it.

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PostAug 26, 2020#247

Stl Public Radio - Lemp Brewery Collapse Crumples Decades Of History, Hundreds Of Bikes

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/show/st ... s-of-bikes

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PostAug 26, 2020#248

^What really sucks is that the building that partially collapsed was the one best suited for reuse, particularly residential.

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PostAug 30, 2020#249

Stltoday- Building collapse another in long line of Lemp misfortunes

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... 1cc78.html

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PostAug 31, 2020#250

I'm curious what the insurance payout will be on this one (not that it will be public)... I can't imagine it will be rebuilt, so hopefully they can flip this into a positive and have some upgrades done across the other buildings.

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