I really hope they shut him down. The city should cut 30% of their workforce. Apply some of the money to a newly rehabbed center for the homeless that isn't in the heart of downtown but is still accessible to public transportation. We need to continue to push for renovation of historic buildings in downtown west and I think places like NLEC curtail that growth and certainly isn't helping the newly renovated library.
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Agree 100%/ I wonder if any downtown business owners and developers went to the herrings.jcity wrote:I really hope they shut him down. The city should cut 30% of their workforce. Apply some of the money to a newly rehabbed center for the homeless that isn't in the heart of downtown but is still accessible to public transportation. We need to continue to push for renovation of historic buildings in downtown west and I think places like NLEC curtail that growth and certainly isn't helping the newly renovated library.
Don't forget the final hearing is in a couple weeks, Oct 21st 1:45 p.m. in Room 208 of City Hall. They have stated a decision will be presented at the meeting.
Someone who attends please let us know how this goes down asap, this is HUGE for the growth of downtown as a neighborhood.
I hate to be Negative Nancy, but I'm guessing we'll get nothing good out of this:ntbpo wrote:Someone who attends please let us know how this goes down asap, this is HUGE for the growth of downtown as a neighborhood.
-further delays and studies
-Larry stays open
or
-they issue a tepid proposal to shut it down and Larry goes into full martyr mode plus his lawyers issue all sorts of papers to keep things running
If I didn't have a meeting conflict I'd attend.
@nickpistor
Looks like the delayed again
Another delay. I don't know what to make of this. Does this mean Slay thinks they are going to be shut down or that they are going to be allowed to stay open?
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It means that Slay is like Nixon is like Dooley is like next Co Exec, leaders that take the path of least resistence, don't take risks, and have no ballz.
I'M SO FREAKING TIRED OF OUR REGIONAL LEADERSHIP
I'M SO FREAKING TIRED OF OUR REGIONAL LEADERSHIP
Shot called.dweebe wrote:I hate to be Negative Nancy, but I'm guessing we'll get nothing good out of this:ntbpo wrote:Someone who attends please let us know how this goes down asap, this is HUGE for the growth of downtown as a neighborhood.
-further delays and studies
-Larry stays open
or
-they issue a tepid proposal to shut it down and Larry goes into full martyr mode plus his lawyers issue all sorts of papers to keep things running
If I didn't have a meeting conflict I'd attend.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt ... 8f817.html
Slay is going to kick this can down the road until he's out of office.
Tell slay How you feel about NLEC we need a we need stronger leaders that have b@lls
http://www.mayorslay.com/contact
http://www.mayorslay.com/contact
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I can't say I blame him. If Rice were shut down today does anyone doubt that the Ferguson protestors would see it as racially motivated and raise hell downtown? Kicking the can is the lesser of the two evils.
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^As much as i want to see Larry go i agree and was hoping they would delay this until the other stuff blows over. Larrys not going anywhere for a while. At least with the barricades up it has limited the loitering. A year or so ago it was unbearable.
This would be where having the heavy hitting business leaders of the region backing DT could really come in handy. (Caution dreaming ahead): Consider if we had these business leaders who loved their DT so much they worked out a deal convincing Larry to move where the move was beneficial to him. A win-win.
Anyway, back to reality: Without anyone with serious clout holding city hall's feet to the fire I don't really see much incentive for them being very serious about getting Larry to move.
Anyway, back to reality: Without anyone with serious clout holding city hall's feet to the fire I don't really see much incentive for them being very serious about getting Larry to move.
I wasted my time attending today. Rice should have been shut down 5 years ago. I'm at my wits end with this. If you feel strongly about it I encourage you to contact Slay and Rainford. Their inaction is gutless. They are playing politics with a dangerous situation.
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What does the homeless have to do with the protesters in Ferguson? Clearly Slay is very hesitant like how he balked on the Cardinals penalties for not getting BPV started ahead of time. So he's clearly siding with Rice over downtown residents? I see more homeless people walking the streets of downtown now than i see actual residents. Being homeless isn't about race its about not holding yourself accountable for your own responsibilities and if the protesters want to come down and protest that? then let them just assume without knowing the facts or simply have the homeless move too their neck of the woods.
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The Post-Dispatch comments section is often a train wreck. However, I had to laugh when someone asked the mayor if he had difficulty sitting in a chair since he has no spine!robertn42 wrote:I wasted my time attending today. Rice should have been shut down 5 years ago. I'm at my wits end with this. If you feel strongly about it I encourage you to contact Slay and Rainford. Their inaction is gutless. They are playing politics with a dangerous situation.
I'm not sure why Slay insisted on serving a fourth term in the mayor's office, because this is the opposite of leadership. He has become a vacillating, pandering, ineffective excuse of a leader. If his leadership skills were as solid as his ability to self-congratulate on social media, he'd be a fantastic mayor. He and his staff seems more preoccupied by getting more 'likes' on Facebook and retweets on Twitter than leading the broader community in real life.
I can see why Slay and his staff may have made the calculation that an announcement to shut down the NLEC could be a political hot potato with ongoing protests in Ferguson and at special events in the city. However, it is a lousy excuse to kick the can down the road when the NLEC has been a drain on downtown in the nearly 40 years that it's been in existence. Furthermore, as downtown development and residential living have increased significantly in the last decade, it's clear that the NLEC has increasingly become a liability to the community and an impediment to continued growth and prosperity.RedOctober wrote:What does the homeless have to do with the protesters in Ferguson? Clearly Slay is very hesitant like how he balked on the Cardinals penalties for not getting BPV started ahead of time. So he's clearly siding with Rice over downtown residents? I see more homeless people walking the streets of downtown now than i see actual residents. Being homeless isn't about race its about not holding yourself accountable for your own responsibilities and if the protesters want to come down and protest that? then let them just assume without knowing the facts or simply have the homeless move too their neck of the woods.
Now Slay wants a compromise? Hasn't that been tried off and on for almost 40 years with little or no progress? Rev. Rice and his minions insist everything's fine whenever there's media scrutiny, and then it's all swept under the rug and forgotten until the next time the media needs a hot-button story or when nearby residents and businesses become rightfully annoyed by the shenanigans there. This is an absolutely pathetic, spineless, and ultimately predictable move.
If Slay insists on seeking a fifth term or a higher office at the state or federal level, I hope downtown resident and business owners who have fought to clean up NLEC once and for all challenge him every step of the way. Slay is an ineffectual, arrogant, so-called leader who is now much better at being the King of St. Louis than serving as its chief executive.
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314...couldn't agree more...and we wonder why Clayton is kicking DT's asz with upcoming high-rises and development...Slay takes the path of least resistance....When is the last time he took a risk?
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^The city decided to delay its decision on whether to revoke NLEC's hotel license.
My sense is that Larry's son would love to move the shelter. (Think housing scattered throughout the region--not concentrated). But that would require someone to help make the numbers work. Friends of mine in social work tell me that NLEC is the only shelter that will take (almost) anybody. The region does need that... just not all concentrated downtown.
My sense is that Larry's son would love to move the shelter. (Think housing scattered throughout the region--not concentrated). But that would require someone to help make the numbers work. Friends of mine in social work tell me that NLEC is the only shelter that will take (almost) anybody. The region does need that... just not all concentrated downtown.







