Possible 2026 cranes -addxb2 wrote: ↑Jan 25, 20252026 is going to be the year of the tower crane in St. Louis. What was the last record? 2018ish?
Helicopter - a show for everyone.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 26, 2025How else is a pool getting hoisted on the roof of 909
Millennium will have a new construction as part of all proposals. Some just keep parts of it and others none of it
Thanks for engaging and answer, Goat. I agree on STL punching above it's weight, so frustrating to frequently see more positive development vibes from peer citiesgoat314 wrote: ↑Jan 25, 2025I've been to all of those cities. I'd say that St. Louis punches way above it's weight in urban development. Pittsburgh definitely has a bigger and more vibrant downtown, but St. Louis has way more urban nodes with high rise development.soulardx wrote: ↑Jan 25, 2025Do any peer cities have two NON-downtown neighborhoods (CWE & Clayton) that are seeing high rise development?
KC, Pittsburgh, Indy, etc.
That's a real question I don't know.
If not, I think this all ties into the constant comps to peer cities. I get the sense that all of the exciting development in a city like KC is in downtown KC. And, when comparing cities, one reflexively compares downtowns. That's why STL doesn't have the positive, upward-trajectory vibes of some other cities.
DT STL is mostly seeing rehabs of existing buildings into residential - not nothing, but not as sexy/splashy as a new highrise. All of our cool new urbany sh*t is NOT downtown.
Spot on.MattnSTL wrote: ↑Jan 26, 2025We're getting off topic, but no one in their right mind is paying to set up a tower crane to put a pool on top of 909 Chestnut. That would never pencil out financially. There may be cranes there at various times, but they will be mobile cranes. The most likely method is most everything will go up and down on elevators, whether that means they set up an exterior hoist, or use the internal systems. Even a pool, because that doesn't have to be a monolithic fiberglass base.
KC has Plaza and OP. Plaza is seeing high rise residential and OP highrise office. OP is not as impressive as Clayton and isn’t really a skyline to enjoy.soulardx wrote:Thanks for engaging and answer, Goat. I agree on STL punching above it's weight, so frustrating to frequently see more positive development vibes from peer citiesgoat314 wrote: ↑Jan 25, 2025I've been to all of those cities. I'd say that St. Louis punches way above it's weight in urban development. Pittsburgh definitely has a bigger and more vibrant downtown, but St. Louis has way more urban nodes with high rise development.soulardx wrote: ↑Jan 25, 2025Do any peer cities have two NON-downtown neighborhoods (CWE & Clayton) that are seeing high rise development?
KC, Pittsburgh, Indy, etc.
That's a real question I don't know.
If not, I think this all ties into the constant comps to peer cities. I get the sense that all of the exciting development in a city like KC is in downtown KC. And, when comparing cities, one reflexively compares downtowns. That's why STL doesn't have the positive, upward-trajectory vibes of some other cities.
DT STL is mostly seeing rehabs of existing buildings into residential - not nothing, but not as sexy/splashy as a new highrise. All of our cool new urbany sh*t is NOT downtown.
Not sure it is really a peer city/metro but MPLS / St. Paul metro has high-rise development in at least 5 plus different areas.ldai_phs wrote: ↑Jan 27, 2025KC has Plaza and OP. Plaza is seeing high rise residential and OP highrise office. OP is not as impressive as Clayton and isn’t really a skyline to enjoy.soulardx wrote:Thanks for engaging and answer, Goat. I agree on STL punching above it's weight, so frustrating to frequently see more positive development vibes from peer citiesgoat314 wrote: ↑Jan 25, 2025I've been to all of those cities. I'd say that St. Louis punches way above it's weight in urban development. Pittsburgh definitely has a bigger and more vibrant downtown, but St. Louis has way more urban nodes with high rise development.
When I saw a new rendering released - I thought oh we must have gotten a couple more stories!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 27, 2025Updated look
Wow! Like this even better!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 27, 2025Updated look
Herringbone glass pattern does compliment 100 better than previous design. Can't say I've see such a glass pattern anywhere else. Floor plates look slightly bigger due to rounded corners vs more oval shape.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 27, 2025Updated look
That would be more interestingChris Stritzel wrote: ↑Jan 27, 2025The accents appear to be a golden color.
