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PostAug 02, 2019#601

ldai_phs wrote: UpTown Lofts - MidTown KC



Sunflower Development announced today (July 30) it has closed on its private financing and plans to begin construction next week on the 223 Unit Uptown Lofts mixed-use project with an expected completion in summer 2021.

Mutual of Omaha Bank with participation from Capital Federal Savings has provided the financing for the project, according to Sunflower. The developer also is moving forward with a planned hotel at the corner of Broadway and Valentine.



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That's the first phase.  There's another building proposed in the corner to take up most of the parking.   Though it should be built along Broadway, not Valentine.

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PostAug 02, 2019#602

hobo digitale wrote:
matguy70 wrote: Nice to hear about the other side of the state.  I look at the KcRag forum every once in awhile but it seems if anything posted about/on STL in the "out of town" thread or anywhere else on thoae boards the poster is ridiculed or the posts are deleted.  Seems so silly.  The Mods over there are really insecure or really dislike STL.  I don't get it.
Curious, looks to be the opposite.  There are several STL threads on kcrag that have positive discussion.  This forum gets fussy if more than one KC thread is created.

http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20183
http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20783
http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20716
http://kcrag.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=20166
This isn’t a Kansas City forum, one thread is enough for KC updates. Just like the multiple individual threads for other cities in the elsewhere section. Let’s move on from these types of arguments already.

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PostAug 02, 2019#603

Thank you for validating my point.

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PostAug 04, 2019#604

Crown Center - The Finale Plan:

Two million SF of mixed-use development in a walkable setting, including over 750,000 SF office, 50,000 SF retail, and 1.2 million SF multi-family housing. Prepared by Goody Clancy for Crown Center Redevelopment Corp (2019)








CCRC’s intent is to partner with or sell to other developers for most of this. That’s why NGZ and Block have been brought in.


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PostAug 04, 2019#605

OK.  Now I'm getting jealous of the street car and expansion.  Sure, it's not robust, or sprawling, but it goes to where people are going, or where they want to go.  And that's clear.  I feel like the sprawling MetroLink situation is frustrating and could be better served by higher speed commuter rail.  IE, Shiloh-St. Louis-Airport could just as easily be one stop express train instead.  And then a separate spur that goes from STL to Kirkwood.  And we could use MetroLink to serve a much more centralized population.  Not that we aren't now, but I feel like some of the efficiency is wasted on going to far-flung areas, and people who needed to get to more precise stops in St. Louis from these farther spots could arrive at one central station and transfer to a more localized train, as the current blue line does not.  I'm moving from the topic a little bit, but just trying to ascertain why our system is so sprawling -- I was just a kid when Link was first built out on the existing ROW.

I'm not completely caught up in KC goings on, but I assume these developments are still getting subsidized? And the streetcar and expansion is funded by tax initiatives, yes?

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PostAug 04, 2019#606

bwcrow1s wrote: OK.  Now I'm getting jealous of the street car and expansion.  Sure, it's not robust, or sprawling, but it goes to where people are going, or where they want to go.  And that's clear.  I feel like the sprawling MetroLink situation is frustrating and could be better served by higher speed commuter rail.  IE, Shiloh-St. Louis-Airport could just as easily be one stop express train instead.  And then a separate spur that goes from STL to Kirkwood.  And we could use MetroLink to serve a much more centralized population.  Not that we aren't now, but I feel like some of the efficiency is wasted on going to far-flung areas, and people who needed to get to more precise stops in St. Louis from these farther spots could arrive at one central station and transfer to a more localized train, as the current blue line does not.  I'm moving from the topic a little bit, but just trying to ascertain why our system is so sprawling -- I was just a kid when Link was first built out on the existing ROW.

I'm not completely caught up in KC goings on, but I assume these developments are still getting subsidized? And the streetcar and expansion is funded by tax initiatives, yes?
MetroLink is just a different animal.  I was also a kid when it opened back in '93 and it just made sense in those days to use the old freight railroad ROW to help pay for it.  It was actually a pretty ingenious move back then, really.  It's built more like a cross between a traditional light rail and a commuter rail train, which has its benefits (higher speed and more capacity than a streetcar) and its drawbacks (the odd station placement and the difficulty to really build TOD around the system).  Personally I'd still prefer MetroLink, mainly for the larger system, direct airport connections (in addition to connecting to most of the regions other assets) and higher capacity/speed, plus the ability to manage massive events with crush loads of people like a Stanley Cup parade.  A North/South LRT will be a huge boon for the system and will help accomplish more of what you mention here.  Plus it won't be mixed traffic, a huge advantage.

Regarding the far flung areas, you have to remember that Metro/Bi-State has a legal obligation to cover the areas that are part of the interstate compact.  That includes the City, County and St. Clair County and they have to balance that service in the city with additional service in the suburbs.  And the City just so happens to be the smallest jurisdiction.  In Kansas City the streetcar and its eventual expansion draw from a TDD that only pulls tax funding from the areas it runs.  I'm sure idas or others will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that boundary is the Missouri River on the North to 55th Street on the South, State Line on the West and Paseo on the East (the east boundary is the only one I'm not sure about).  Compared to the areas that Bi-State has to cover, that's almost nothing.  Bi-State has a much, much larger responsibility to the metro area than the KC Streetcar does.

And yes, subsidies are still running rampant in Downtown Kansas City.  This development (which looks fantastic by the way) will be no exception.  I don't know that I would consider the streetcar funded with tax "incentives" per say, but it is funded with sales/property taxes collected in the TDD district.  Much like MetroLink is funded with sales taxes in its various jurisdictions.

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PostAug 09, 2019#607

I agree with Mayor when he says that the N-S Metrolink would do the same for St. Louis. 

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PostAug 10, 2019#608

^ Yeah, I'm not sure what I said that was so hysterical lol, but North/South would be a vast improvement to the Metro system.

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PostAug 12, 2019#609

1. Children’s Mercy Research Tower (Hospital Hill - Crown Center)






2. The Artistry (Crossroads):
Phase 1 (of 3) - 341 units + retail/commercial to be built on land purchased from Crown Center.

Renderings:




Construction:
Foundation and grading appears to be complete on the western half of the project. Grading continues on the east side.




3. Reverb (1800 Walnut) - Crossroads:
14 floor apartment building with retail in a block adjacent to the streetcar.



4. City Club Apartments - Crossroads:
Streetcar adjacent, 289 units + restaurant + retail(grocery story?)



Tower crane base is in place.



Lower habitable floors will have concrete walls.




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City Club Apartments - Crossroads - Streetcar Adjacent (Under Construction)

New Renderings:







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PostAug 14, 2019#611

ldai_phs wrote: City Club Apartments - Crossroads - Streetcar Adjacent (Under Construction)

New Renderings:
It's a little funky. I like it. I could see this fitting nicely into Midtown St. Louis or on Washington Avenue somewhere. Nice to see they are incorporating an old building into the design. 

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PostAug 14, 2019#612

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ldai_phs wrote: City Club Apartments - Crossroads - Streetcar Adjacent (Under Construction)

New Renderings:
It's a little funky. I like it. I could see this fitting nicely into Midtown St. Louis or on Washington Avenue somewhere. Nice to see they are incorporating an old building into the design. 
It’s one of my favorite projects in downtown right now. The developer appears to be buying in KC so well hopefully see more from them in the future.


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PostAug 16, 2019#613

Long Range Streetcar Expansion Plan per MARC Project Application



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PostAug 16, 2019#614

^ Good stuff and I like the routes.  We really need to get a citywide transit tax passed...at least South of the River.  I think North KC would vote in favor for the extension over HOA and up to Burlington.

I just can't see getting all this done using these little TDDs like we have so far.  Not that I'm against that route if that's what it takes.  But I'd really like to see a stable citywide funding source for a built out system.

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PostAug 25, 2019#615

sc4mayor wrote: ^ Good stuff and I like the routes.  We really need to get a citywide transit tax passed...at least South of the River.  I think North KC would vote in favor for the extension over HOA and up to Burlington.

I just can't see getting all this done using these little TDDs like we have so far.  Not that I'm against that route if that's what it takes.  But I'd really like to see a stable citywide funding source for a built out system.
Agreed. It sounds like additional streetcar expansion may be included in an upcoming bus expansion/free bus initiative.

PostAug 25, 2019#616

RUMOR: Waddell & Reed to move into a not yet announced office project in downtown. $200million+ Project. The rumor was posted on KCRAG by a Burns and Mac associate.

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PostAug 25, 2019#617

^ That would be great, maybe ease up traffic a little bit on Shawnee Mission Parkway for my daily commute ;).

Probably taking advantage of those soon to be expiring incentives with the Border War truce.

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PostAug 25, 2019#618

sc4mayor wrote: ^ That would be great, maybe ease up traffic a little bit on Shawnee Mission Parkway for my daily commute ;).

Probably taking advantage of those soon to be expiring incentives with the Border War truce.
I don't think that the truce blocks incentives for the office buildings themselves. This could be the beginning of a new incentive Cold War.

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PostAug 25, 2019#619

^ Right, I was actually referencing a recent article in the Star about how some companies, Hostess and Waddell & Reed specifically, are taking advantage of each state's job incentive programs to hop the State Line before the "truce" takes effect on August 28th.  Waddell & Reed to Missouri, Hostess from Missouri to Lenexa.

I'd link the article here, but it's just a link to the paywall haha.

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PostAug 26, 2019#620

Why not!? 😉

"If the financial firm — which includes a broker-dealer — chooses moves to St. Louis, it would join several large rivals now based there, like Wells Fargo Advisors, Edward Jones and Stifel."

https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2019/06/06 ... 0726085842

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PostAug 26, 2019#621

^ LOL, I think that is a case of Think Advisor not knowing there is a Kansas City in Missouri as well.  There is a ZERO percent chance Waddell moves to St. Louis haha.

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PostAug 26, 2019#622



Streetcar 806 arrived in KC this morning. I believe this one was made in Spain, shipped to Texas (Houston), and trucked up to KC.

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PostAug 28, 2019#623

ldai_phs wrote: City Club Apartments - Crossroads - Streetcar Adjacent (Under Construction)

New Renderings:



Assuming the renderings are realistic...man, I love everything about this project.  This is urban design perfection.  So many blocks in the East Loop, Washington Avenue / Locust Street, CWE, South Grand, and The Grove could use this treatment.  Too bad this developer will not be doing anything else in St. Louis.

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PostAug 29, 2019#624

1. New KCI Terminal 



Updated Renderings:


These new exterior renderings detail the approach roadway and drop off curb for departing passengers as they access the check in hall of the new single terminal building.




These interior renderings detail the check in lobby as well as open space for jazz, fountains and retail in the area immediately past the security checkpoint.





The first of these two interior renderings details an observation area on the concourse connector. The second rendering details a typical gate area on the outer concourse



These interior renderings detail the baggage claim on the lower level of the new terminal building where a dedicated arrivals curb exists just steps away from six large carousel devices.




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PostAug 30, 2019#625

^Looks like absolutely bog standard airport design these days. Perfectly fine, but nothing stands out. Which is both good and bad. In absolute terms the old terminal is more distinctive, but . . . less functional. Meh. They picked the wrong contractor. Which we already knew. Just like Chouteau's Greenway.

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