That’s the going cost for new baseball stadiums today. All of the proposed or under construction ones are in the same range or higher. Sucks how much construction inflation has gone up over the last 10 years.soulardx wrote:Sure sure sure - socialism stadiums are a necessity for any non top-2 US MSA but $1B is excessive. KC doesn't need the 4th most expensive baseball stadium ever. 2x as much as ATL? absurd.ldai_phs wrote: ↑7:50 PM - May 13Google says $600 million from the City and $350 million from the State, almost entirely limited to redirection of taxes generated by the stadium.soulardx wrote: yes!
And the fact it's not final/set is exactly why I'm voicing my displeasure in hopes the subsidy is cut. All the numbers I've read/heard are excessive. anyway, more when the socialism is solidified.
The Royals ‘think big.’ Proposed stadium at Crown Center would be the fourth-most expensive major league ballpark
https://thebeaconnews.org/stories/2026/ ... explained/
(not arguing with ldai_phs here. Just adding more of a POV from myself.)
https://www.kcur.org/housing-developmen ... outes-cuts
KCATA to cut 25% of its service after the World Cup, partially to maintain frequency on the Troost Ave MAX BRT line.
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This has been an ongoing back and forth for 2 years now. No fault of World CupStlAlex wrote:https://www.kcur.org/housing-developmen ... outes-cuts
KCATA to cut 25% of its service after the World Cup, partially to maintain frequency on the Troost Ave MAX BRT line.
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World Cup probably helped delay cuts if anything. I'm not trying to attack the World Cup or KC hosting here though.ldai_phs wrote:This has been an ongoing back and forth for 2 years now. No fault of World CupStlAlex wrote:https://www.kcur.org/housing-developmen ... outes-cuts
KCATA to cut 25% of its service after the World Cup, partially to maintain frequency on the Troost Ave MAX BRT line.
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Fox4: Kansas City ranked worst World Cup host city for fan experience: New study
Some highlights from the article:
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A recent study by The Action Network, a sports gambling website, ranked Kansas City as the worst World Cup host city for fan experience.
The study identified factors including travel time to the stadium, expected matchday temperatures and limited amenities around the venue as reasons for the low ranking.
The study analyzed various components of the fan experience across 16 host cities, including travel time from the airport to the stadium, expected matchday temperature, walkability around the stadium, bar density near the stadium and hotel availability near the stadium.
Kansas City received the lowest ranking for overall fan experience. Vancouver, Toronto, Seattle, Mexico City and Atlanta were identified as the top five host cities in the study.
Arrowhead Stadium is also projected to be the hottest venue, with an average matchday temperature of 87.6 degrees. The walkability around Arrowhead was rated 15 out of 100 by the study.
The study’s methodology unfairly favored cities with downtown stadiums or nearby entertainment districts. - "unfairly"? HUH?
Arrowhead Stadium was described as being in an isolated location. Arrowhead sits with a Best Western hotel, a Taco Bell restaurant and a couple of gas stations nearby.
Ouch.
Some highlights from the article:
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A recent study by The Action Network, a sports gambling website, ranked Kansas City as the worst World Cup host city for fan experience.
The study identified factors including travel time to the stadium, expected matchday temperatures and limited amenities around the venue as reasons for the low ranking.
The study analyzed various components of the fan experience across 16 host cities, including travel time from the airport to the stadium, expected matchday temperature, walkability around the stadium, bar density near the stadium and hotel availability near the stadium.
Kansas City received the lowest ranking for overall fan experience. Vancouver, Toronto, Seattle, Mexico City and Atlanta were identified as the top five host cities in the study.
Arrowhead Stadium is also projected to be the hottest venue, with an average matchday temperature of 87.6 degrees. The walkability around Arrowhead was rated 15 out of 100 by the study.
The study’s methodology unfairly favored cities with downtown stadiums or nearby entertainment districts. - "unfairly"? HUH?
Arrowhead Stadium was described as being in an isolated location. Arrowhead sits with a Best Western hotel, a Taco Bell restaurant and a couple of gas stations nearby.
Ouch.
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How did KC get to be one of the host cities? $$$ at the right persons?
Arrowhead surrounds suck. But I don’t believe the article’s claim that it takes 2.5 hours to drive from KCI to the stadium. Should take you 45 minutes in an Uber at most. Quick 15-20 minutes from downtown.
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https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/kansas- ... l-8dd972f5BarryGlick wrote:How did KC get to be one of the host cities? $$$ at the right persons?
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/sports/20 ... for-the-us
KC spent big on soccer infrastructure and then took the actual bid process more seriously than other cities.
Not mentioned as much in the articles but MSP and Chicago dropped out or were cut early. Was between KC, Nashville, and Cincinnati for a “mid west host”. KC had much stronger stadium and practice facility assets.
If Nashville had built their new Titans stadium earlier, things probably would have shaken out differently.
Streetcar hit 40K ridership last weekend Sunday. Single day record. Procurement for NEPA and Concept design on a 5-6 mile east/west route should start soon.
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So impressive
While we just kill transit plans over and over
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^Is it fair to compare a free system to a pay system? Especially when they are seeing a major tourist bump with the WC?
That being said, I agree that we are not doing a good job growing the Metrolink system. Never have.
That being said, I agree that we are not doing a good job growing the Metrolink system. Never have.
Best to compare the free systems where KC outcompetes Cincinnati, etc. Interestingly, if you look at entire bus systems going to a free model it usually hurts ridership (KC is a recent example, Austin an older example that was reversed).DogtownBnR wrote:^Is it fair to compare a free system to a pay system? Especially when they are seeing a major tourist bump with the WC?
That being said, I agree that we are not doing a good job growing the Metrolink system. Never have.
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Unfortunately, I think a completely free system would create significant security issues here in St. Louis..
The security gates will do wonders for securing the system IMO. While I’ve mostly felt safe on the Metrolink, keeping off random, non-paying individuals should help keep the Metro much more secure.
The security gates will do wonders for securing the system IMO. While I’ve mostly felt safe on the Metrolink, keeping off random, non-paying individuals should help keep the Metro much more secure.