I can't imagine driving all the way to Gardner from KC for a show. Makes the Factory seem close in comparison
It’s revealing that the Gardner project doesn’t get near the opposition the Plaza redevelopment and construction incentive is receiving or the Royals stadium situation. Chiefs stadium thing is the same way. Kansas news on this subject is far more positive and receptive than anything Missouri side. It’s like they don’t want to grow and evolve.
Chiefs stadium deal is objectively horrific. Way worse than the Royals stadium deal.
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KU Med Center is Kansas’s main med school and hospital located right on the border with KCMO at 39th street.
KU Med located has topped out on their new 675,000 square foot cancer research and treatment center. The project comprises two connected midrises and has two tower cranes at this moment.
Rendering of the project under construction.
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KU isn’t keeping still. They have three more large projects planned to break ground over the coming months.
Rendering of one of the three proposed buildings.
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From user “Walker” on KCRAG:
KU med is going to put up a building at State & Olathe of more than 300,000 square feet for researching, creating, and applying new radioactive medicines. Works out to about 8 floors above grade with below ground radioactive labs. Some sort of partnership with Children's Mercy. Sounded like this project, if successful, could become a national draw for specialized treatment. The medical school is going to soon start bulldozing 5 of their older buildings south of 39th.
The hospital is going to build a new tower that looked to be 25-50% larger than Cambridge A and slightly taller. So lets call that 700-800,000 square feet. I would describe the design as almost a continuation in a snake like way. It was mentioned that they have run out of beds and are turning away hundreds of patients per month. To support the new tower, they will build a new garage with I believe 3000 spaces. I imagine a garage of that scale could buy you a good chunk of streetcar expansion.
All of these projects will be under construction in the next 6-9 months and have staggered openings in 2028-2030.
KU Med located has topped out on their new 675,000 square foot cancer research and treatment center. The project comprises two connected midrises and has two tower cranes at this moment.
Rendering of the project under construction.
KU isn’t keeping still. They have three more large projects planned to break ground over the coming months.
Rendering of one of the three proposed buildings.
From user “Walker” on KCRAG:
KU med is going to put up a building at State & Olathe of more than 300,000 square feet for researching, creating, and applying new radioactive medicines. Works out to about 8 floors above grade with below ground radioactive labs. Some sort of partnership with Children's Mercy. Sounded like this project, if successful, could become a national draw for specialized treatment. The medical school is going to soon start bulldozing 5 of their older buildings south of 39th.
The hospital is going to build a new tower that looked to be 25-50% larger than Cambridge A and slightly taller. So lets call that 700-800,000 square feet. I would describe the design as almost a continuation in a snake like way. It was mentioned that they have run out of beds and are turning away hundreds of patients per month. To support the new tower, they will build a new garage with I believe 3000 spaces. I imagine a garage of that scale could buy you a good chunk of streetcar expansion.
All of these projects will be under construction in the next 6-9 months and have staggered openings in 2028-2030.
How does Kansas City keep doing this? Are we really that broke here and where are they getting this money?
Pretty sure it's just gonna be a TIF, will probably try and utilize the new state TIF bill as well. Only difference is that the developers say they would cover any debt that isn't covered by the TIF is tax revenue does not meet expectations.dweebe wrote:How does Kansas City keep doing this? Are we really that broke here and where are they getting this money?
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Yea, KC Current is just a TIF district.StlAlex wrote:Pretty sure it's just gonna be a TIF, will probably try and utilize the new state TIF bill as well. Only difference is that the developers say they would cover any debt that isn't covered by the TIF is tax revenue does not meet expectations.dweebe wrote:How does Kansas City keep doing this? Are we really that broke here and where are they getting this money?
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Developer backing the bonds is standard in TIF anyways
Approved. Still weary about the demand for more seats, but I do understand that they're hoping for the Women's World Cup and other events.dweebe wrote: ↑12:51 AM - Sep 01How does Kansas City keep doing this? Are we really that broke here and where are they getting this money?
The Current Stadium expansion is interesting and hopefully it attracts more events to support the expansion. It will look more complete once done, but it's good for what it is.
Dev plan filed for resi tower and hotel. Tax incentives were approved earlier in the year.Chris Stritzel wrote:Regarding this, EPC and VeLa stated at the PortKC meeting on Monday that even though this is a three phase project, they'd like to have all components under construction simultaneously at one point and be finished in 2030. I doubt the timeline, but appreciate the ambition.Dev7 wrote: ↑6:03 AM - Apr 14New renderings are out for the 1650 Broadway Project, Encore. I know some were worried that the star of the show, the 33-story building would be a part of the later phases, but it looks like the tower is a part of phase I.
Resi Tower
I'm really tired of the "stacked boxes" architecture craze; nevertheless, I'm also very jealous of this building.
They did redesign the buildings a little bit. Desire is to start on these two in October 2027 and wrap up in March 2030. The office component, which was seen earlier this year, apparently has a tenant signed on. Without it being submitted right now though, I expect there to be a deeper redesign of that component to suit the needs of whatever tenant.
Encore is moving faster than the UMusic Hotel/800 Grand project. That one won all incentives, but no formal development plan has been filed with the City yet. Encore was revealed after 800 Grand and won its incentives in between UMusic's and is advancing ahead of it. It makes me believe there's some trouble on that development team's side of things. KCRaggers are hoping they at least get the Scarritt Building redeveloped, which is my opinion as well.
Encore is moving faster than the UMusic Hotel/800 Grand project. That one won all incentives, but no formal development plan has been filed with the City yet. Encore was revealed after 800 Grand and won its incentives in between UMusic's and is advancing ahead of it. It makes me believe there's some trouble on that development team's side of things. KCRaggers are hoping they at least get the Scarritt Building redeveloped, which is my opinion as well.
Nay news on the Main Street Theater since the B&B closed? Feels like Cordish should just operate it at this point. It's too valuable to downtown and all of the people living in their buildings to leave empty
I know that it's been kicked around that a portion of it might be integrated into 4 Light while the rest stays a movie theater, but of reduced size. Finding an operator is the hardest part right now. My idea is to gut the building and turn it back into a single theater since the nearby Midland Theater has plenty of events a year, another venue of similar size would be successful.GoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑2:10 PM - Sep 30Nay news on the Main Street Theater since the B&B closed? Feels like Cordish should just operate it at this point. It's too valuable to downtown and all of the people living in their buildings to leave empty
With the Royals also likely to build high-rise apartments within the new Ballpark district, there is going to be a lot more competition in the area in the next 5-10 years.Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑8:30 PM - Sep 29But with Encore and potentially 800 Grand eating into the same clientele market, it's a race to see who gets their premium housing product done first.
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The Royals will reveal their ballpark in an event Thursday at the Populous HQ in Downtown KC. What they revealed before was the concept, this should be closer to the actual plan. The City Council approved the Royals TIF and rezoning last week, securing that deal. I'm attending that event, so I'm curious to see what the vision is now that the public side of the deal is done and things will chug ahead to a demolition commencement on the Hallmark HQ in the first quarter.
Locals found out that the Roy Blunt Luminary Park (South Loop Park) will begin construction next year and result in the closure of 670 for two years. That's on top of the closure of I-70 from Van Brunt to Prospect all of next year. Access in and out of downtown from the east will need to be on local streets (primarily 31st, Truman, and Independence Avenue). Only one block of the park will be built at first, the section from Wyandotte to Baltimore. The remaining blocks will come over time. The press release makes it sound like all of the tunnel infrastructure will be built during the closure with the landscaping on the other blocks occurring over time.
Previously, Cordish intended to construct 4 Light at the same time since traffic was going to be a mess from road closures anyways. We'll see if that desire comes true or not.
The Chiefs' new stadium in KCK is hitting a roadblock from the KCK government suing over the process and how it removes local control. We'll see how that holds up. Additionally, the formal STAR Bond district boundaries were revealed today and how it's split up. Again it covers all of Wyandotte County and basically half of Johnson County. The district boundaries are being mocked and rightfully so. The Royals "impact district" is tiny compared to the Chiefs by a magnitude of 52x.
Locals found out that the Roy Blunt Luminary Park (South Loop Park) will begin construction next year and result in the closure of 670 for two years. That's on top of the closure of I-70 from Van Brunt to Prospect all of next year. Access in and out of downtown from the east will need to be on local streets (primarily 31st, Truman, and Independence Avenue). Only one block of the park will be built at first, the section from Wyandotte to Baltimore. The remaining blocks will come over time. The press release makes it sound like all of the tunnel infrastructure will be built during the closure with the landscaping on the other blocks occurring over time.
Previously, Cordish intended to construct 4 Light at the same time since traffic was going to be a mess from road closures anyways. We'll see if that desire comes true or not.
The Chiefs' new stadium in KCK is hitting a roadblock from the KCK government suing over the process and how it removes local control. We'll see how that holds up. Additionally, the formal STAR Bond district boundaries were revealed today and how it's split up. Again it covers all of Wyandotte County and basically half of Johnson County. The district boundaries are being mocked and rightfully so. The Royals "impact district" is tiny compared to the Chiefs by a magnitude of 52x.
The Chiefs deal is genuinely insane. Like it makes what STL was offering the Rams look spectacular.
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Building Luminary Park without grants is wild for a City already struggling to cover the growing infrastructure costs of its suburban areas. Kansas City government is broke and they’re not acting like it.
The stadium financing plan might be one of the more irresponsible incentive packages ever if you consider the value compared to state revenue. 45% of KC is KS and that share is in the process of maxing out its metaphorical credit card (without raising taxes).
The stadium financing plan might be one of the more irresponsible incentive packages ever if you consider the value compared to state revenue. 45% of KC is KS and that share is in the process of maxing out its metaphorical credit card (without raising taxes).
The highway park is being built with a bunch of grants?addxb2 wrote:Building Luminary Park without grants is wild for a City already struggling to cover the growing infrastructure costs of its suburban areas. Kansas City government is broke and they’re not acting like it.
The stadium financing plan might be one of the more irresponsible incentive packages ever if you consider the value compared to state revenue. 45% of KC is KS and that share is in the process of maxing out its metaphorical credit card (without raising taxes).
No disagreement on the Kansas stadium plan. The KC Royals plan is somewhat standard.
This shot is most interesting with the limestone really pronounced along with the integration into the hillside. The limestone reminds me of the current Yankee Stadium and the elevation usage of Dodger Stadium.
Looks cool and love the limestone. Great deal for KC/downtown KC. Am I crazy or does it look a little small?
34,000 capacity so around the size of other new stadiums and absolutely smaller than Buschjtlq53 wrote:Looks cool and love the limestone. Great deal for KC/downtown KC. Am I crazy or does it look a little small?
The stadium is built into a bluff side and they're going to expose that bluff as seen in the west plaza rendering but it'll also be available in the two concourses and some of the stadium clubs that will be below-grade. The stadium will be clad in limestone, terra cotta and metal, which Earl Santee, the founder of Populous, says was determined after surveying Kansas City's landmarks.