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It’s linked to the Chiefs thing as well. I think the Chiefs will do the heavy lifting on this one.jshank83 wrote: ↑Feb 13, 2024Now can they pass the vote?airforceguy1 wrote: ↑Feb 13, 2024Kansas City Royals pick Crossroads site for new stadium, release renderings
https://fox4kc.com/sports/royals/kansas-city-royals-pick-crossroads-site-for-new-stadium-release-renderings/The Kansas City Royals plan to move to the Crossroads District, team leaders announced Tuesday as they released new renderings.
The Royals’ proposed $2 billion ballpark district is bordered by Grand Boulevard to the west, Locust Street to the east, Truman Road to the north, and 17th Street to the south. At the center of the new ballpark district is the Kansas City Star Press Pavilion property, along Interstate 670. It appears the Star building would be demolished to build the stadium. The stadium will be located next to the new South Loop Link park over I-670 and then across from the T-Mobile Center in downtown Kansas City. Part of the Royals’ plans calls for extending the South Loop Link further east than originally planned to accommodate for the new ballpark. The team would also add a pedestrian bridge that directly connects the T-Mobile Center and the stadium.
The $2 billion ballpark district would include team offices, a conference center, corporate offices, a hotel, and residential and entertainment venue space. The project would also call for improvements to Grand Boulevard, according to the team. The Royals said they do not have any plans for additional parking at the new ballpark, arguing there is enough in the area already. It’s a big shift from the last time the team shared project renderings.
Back in August, sites in the East Village of downtown Kansas City and North Kansas City were considered the two finalists for the new stadium.
But last fall, the owner of the Kansas City Star Press Pavilion said his property had reemerged as a contender. Tony Privitera, executive vice president of Mark One Electric Co., has since released several renderings of what a new Royals ballpark could look like.
The stadium itself doesn't look like much, but the setting is gonna be great. Downtown KC is really doing well.
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Some graphics from the Royals presentation. Notice the two slides about parking at the Sports Complex vs Downtown. They're trying to shut down the "where do I park" argument early. The to-scale overlay of the Sports Complex over downtown is also a great way to show what a waste it is. The Chiefs are expected to announce their own plans for Arrowhead, and where Kauffman currently is, in the coming weeks.
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And this was shared, but not talked about too much. It shows some improvements to 18th Street, which would better connect the Crossroads to the growing 18th and Vine neighborhood.
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And this was shared, but not talked about too much. It shows some improvements to 18th Street, which would better connect the Crossroads to the growing 18th and Vine neighborhood.
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downtown KC had $289,000,000 in taxable sales in the first 6 months of 2023 and downtown stl had $960,000,000framer wrote: ↑Feb 14, 2024The stadium itself doesn't look like much, but the setting is gonna be great. Downtown KC is really doing well.
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I appreciate this fact because even though Downtown KC is doing well, it’s not as large, or as dense, as Downtown STL. I’m also curious to know if that’s the data for just the Downtown Loop or also the Loop with the River Market and the Crossroads. Is the Downtown STL number just Downtown east of Tucker and also Downtown West? Either way, this is proof that Downtowns need to be one of the strongest neighborhoods to lift city revenue.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 14, 2024downtown KC had $289,000,000 in taxable sales in the first 6 months of 2023 and downtown stl had $960,000,000framer wrote: ↑Feb 14, 2024The stadium itself doesn't look like much, but the setting is gonna be great. Downtown KC is really doing well.
Looks well integrated into the neighborhood, but that's also a lot of granular buildings and small businesses, yeah?
River-market to Crown Center + West Bottoms did $1.4bn for the full year in salesChris Stritzel wrote:I appreciate this fact because even though Downtown KC is doing well, it’s not as large, or as dense, as Downtown STL. I’m also curious to know if that’s the data for just the Downtown Loop or also the Loop with the River Market and the Crossroads. Is the Downtown STL number just Downtown east of Tucker and also Downtown West? Either way, this is proof that Downtowns need to be one of the strongest neighborhoods to lift city revenue.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Feb 14, 2024downtown KC had $289,000,000 in taxable sales in the first 6 months of 2023 and downtown stl had $960,000,000framer wrote: ↑Feb 14, 2024The stadium itself doesn't look like much, but the setting is gonna be great. Downtown KC is really doing well.
These figures are almost certainly tied to B2B and not retail sales (restaurants hotels, stores). For example, the West Bottoms did double that of the 64106 0r 05 despite West Bottoms having minimal retail and restaurants or any other uses besides industrial and a few antique stores.
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Premature speculation, but I see discussion on various boards saying this incident will have a negative impact on the stadium vote in 8(?) weeks. If that fails, what will the Royals do?
I love DB...that's all. LOL!
Go to Kansas. But it’s probably a little early to know if it really will make a difference.pdm_ad wrote: ↑Feb 15, 2024Premature speculation, but I see discussion on various boards saying this incident will have a negative impact on the stadium vote in 8(?) weeks. If that fails, what will the Royals do?
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Regarding a potential move to Kansas, yes but only after all other options are exhausted. The team's moving ahead with purchasing properties in the stadium zone which makes me think two things...jshank83 wrote: ↑Feb 15, 2024Go to Kansas. But it’s probably a little early to know if it really will make a difference.pdm_ad wrote: ↑Feb 15, 2024Premature speculation, but I see discussion on various boards saying this incident will have a negative impact on the stadium vote in 8(?) weeks. If that fails, what will the Royals do?
- Either they believe the sales tax vote will pass thanks to Chiefs involvement in the vote.
- They will go ahead and build the stadium on their own dime, but cut out a ton of potential components (like the new buildings where Oak presently is, the South Loop Park extension, and a simpler stadium design).
I think the shooting will scare a few people who live in the far reaches of suburbs (and were already scared of the city anyways) to stay away from the city for a little bit, but people will eventually come back. Even after this horrible event today, people were still down in the restaurants and bars downtown this evening. People were also out and about walking their dogs or getting exercise in. In many ways, this evening felt like any other normal warmer weather day in the winter here. Nothing out of the ordinary, which is wild considering what happened earlier. The only signs anything really happened today are things still being cleaned up on Grand and the mess left by the stampede of people at Union Station and Liberty Memorial after the shots rang out. That'll all likely be cleaned up by Friday.
Watch how quickly KC regional leaders react THEN deflect this violence as unavoidable tragedy. Not a representation of their community.
Then think about how STLs media commentators would react if 22 people were shot in Downtown St. Louis during a Blues Cup parade.
Then think about how STLs media commentators would react if 22 people were shot in Downtown St. Louis during a Blues Cup parade.
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^Just yesterday a state senator from St. Charles County was on Fox & Friends in a segment where they bemoaned "out of control crime" in STL and how our PD needs to be back under state control.
Like Kansas City.
Like Kansas City.
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There was something like 800 police officers at the parade in KC. As if that’s the problem.Baltimore Jack wrote:^Just yesterday a state senator from St. Charles County was on Fox & Friends in a segment where they bemoaned "out of control crime" in STL and how our PD needs to be back under state control.
Like Kansas City.
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Kansas City's crime is skyrocketing under state control. Under local control, St. Louis is really making some steps.Baltimore Jack wrote: ↑Feb 15, 2024^Just yesterday a state senator from St. Charles County was on Fox & Friends in a segment where they bemoaned "out of control crime" in STL and how our PD needs to be back under state control.
Like Kansas City.
I’m not suggesting anything related to police or either city’s recent crime numbers. I do think the tragedy says more about America than KC.
BUT St. Louis wouldn’t give itself the same grace or forgiveness. STL would make it a bigger national story. Business Journal, Post, KMOV, Fox 2, would all tie it to “Downtown St. Louis” immediately. St. Charles Executive would be on the news offering new stadium sites.
BUT St. Louis wouldn’t give itself the same grace or forgiveness. STL would make it a bigger national story. Business Journal, Post, KMOV, Fox 2, would all tie it to “Downtown St. Louis” immediately. St. Charles Executive would be on the news offering new stadium sites.
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Main Street north of Union Station needs to be closed to through automobile traffic on game days for the streetcar to come even close to the capacity it needs.
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Eastern Airlines is making KC their new HQ.
Airline selects Kansas City as new headquarters, creating 165 jobs
Airline selects Kansas City as new headquarters, creating 165 jobs
https://fox4kc.com/news/airline-selects-kansas-city-as-new-headquarters-creating-165-jobs/On Wednesday, Eastern Airlines and the Economic Development Corporation of Kansas City announced its selection of Kansas City for the airline’s new headquarters.
Eastern Airlines’ move to Kansas City will create 165 full-time jobs with an average salary of $96,000.
The airline first established itself in Kansas City in 2021 when it purchased Alta Aero Technic, LLC, a maintenance, repair, and overhaul facility, and established Foxtrot Aero, LLC, a passenger-to-freighter design company. “We did look at a number of cities to rebase our headquarters, but the enthusiasm of Missouri and the city combined with the generous assistance of the Missouri Works program made our decision easy,” said Stephen Buscher, Eastern Airlines Chief Financial Officer.
Eastern Airlines said the decision to move its corporate headquarters to Kansas City was well thought out and fits with the company’s long-term goals. “Eastern Airlines’ new headquarters is a complement to Kansas City’s new airport terminal and another example of our state’s ability to attract businesses that are creating new opportunities for Missourians,” Missouri Gov. Mike Parson said.
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The vote isn't passing in my opinion.
Eastern Jackson County suburbanites who lean right won't vote for it because of fears about crime, parking, the convenience of Kauffman. Despite the fact they are leaving the K regardless. The area Truman Sports Complex is in might well be the worst in the country to host major sports teams. Calling it a dump would be generous.
The left leaning urban vote don't want it because of subsidies for billionaires and the social justice aspect of displacing existing buildings and tenants. Which I agree with to an extent and should have been handled better but lets not kid ourselves either that area isn't filled with parking craters, underutilized buildings and is generally desolate.
The teams have handled it horribly. The Royals had the East Village site lined up for so long then Cordish got in their ear. It is a better site at the Crossroads but this sh*t can't be rushed. On top of that the Chiefs still haven't released anything and the vote is closing on barely a month.
I live through here just now not through choice but circumstance (Johnson County) and KC is as bad for the car centric mentality as any city in the US and I've lived in a few and visited most major metros. STL with three/four Downtown stadiums and a fairly robust light rail system feels like London or New York by comparison. I had some hope with the street car extension and the prospect of a Downtown stadium for the Royals but if this fails I am seriously considering looking to get back out.
Eastern Jackson County suburbanites who lean right won't vote for it because of fears about crime, parking, the convenience of Kauffman. Despite the fact they are leaving the K regardless. The area Truman Sports Complex is in might well be the worst in the country to host major sports teams. Calling it a dump would be generous.
The left leaning urban vote don't want it because of subsidies for billionaires and the social justice aspect of displacing existing buildings and tenants. Which I agree with to an extent and should have been handled better but lets not kid ourselves either that area isn't filled with parking craters, underutilized buildings and is generally desolate.
The teams have handled it horribly. The Royals had the East Village site lined up for so long then Cordish got in their ear. It is a better site at the Crossroads but this sh*t can't be rushed. On top of that the Chiefs still haven't released anything and the vote is closing on barely a month.
I live through here just now not through choice but circumstance (Johnson County) and KC is as bad for the car centric mentality as any city in the US and I've lived in a few and visited most major metros. STL with three/four Downtown stadiums and a fairly robust light rail system feels like London or New York by comparison. I had some hope with the street car extension and the prospect of a Downtown stadium for the Royals but if this fails I am seriously considering looking to get back out.
Riverfront streetcar line will break ground on March 1
https://kcstreetcar.org/riverfront-groundbreaking/
https://kcstreetcar.org/riverfront-groundbreaking/
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The Chiefs will unveil their vision for the renovation of Arrowhead Stadium on Wednesday.
Chiefs to share Arrowhead Stadium renovation plans this week
Chiefs to share Arrowhead Stadium renovation plans this week
https://fox4kc.com/sports/chiefs/chiefs-to-share-arrowhead-stadium-renovation-plans-this-week/The Kansas City Chiefs will share their vision for Arrowhead Stadium renovations this week, team leaders announced.
The team plans to hold a press release Wednesday morning to present their initial renovation concepts for the stadium. Chiefs Chairman Clark Hunt and President Mark Donovan will be in attendance. The renovation plans come as Jackson County residents prepare to vote in April on a 3/8th-cent sales tax for Chiefs and Royals stadium projects. Revenue from the sales tax, if approved, would go toward Arrowhead renovations and a new Royals stadium in the Crossroads District. There’s also been speculation that the Chiefs would expand throughout the Truman Sports Complex if Kauffman Stadium is demolished.
The two teams will be on the same ballot question on April 2 when Jackson County voters head to the polls.
But even once the Chiefs release their renovation plans, several questions remain about both stadium projects. Jackson County’s letter of intent still requires more details released on the new lease terms and a community benefits agreement.
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Man, lots of opportunity for KC lately... let's hope they can find a way to make these owners pay their fair share.