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PostJan 29, 2025#576

So does this project have all of the financing it needs to complete this project lined up? This has been going on for so long now I’ve just got myself geared up for disappointment I guess.

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PostJan 30, 2025#577

Their completion date has always been the same, summer 2025

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PostJan 30, 2025#578

The March 2016 timeline was 2.5 years.

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PostJan 30, 2025#579

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
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The March 2016 timeline was 2.5 years.
There was no project until a building permit is issued . Everything else is just masturbation

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PostJan 30, 2025#580

This project has a ton of people working on it everyday. It's definitely not stalled out.

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PostJan 30, 2025#581

Fantastic!

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PostJan 31, 2025#582

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:So does this project have all of the financing it needs to complete this project lined up? This has been going on for so long now I’ve just got myself geared up for disappointment I guess.
Hello Jane

It would be a suicide to start such an undertaking without having all the financing required in place prior.


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PostJan 31, 2025#583

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:This project has a ton of people working on it everyday. It's definitely not stalled out.
Thank you for your observation.

Rain, shine, snow we are working. All the subcontractors are amazing. We can’t finish this monumental projects without the worker bees we have. They are 100 % dedicated to the Jefferson Arms project.


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PostJan 31, 2025#584

dbInSouthCity wrote:
JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
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The March 2016 timeline was 2.5 years.
There was no project until a building permit is issued . Everything else is just masturbation
Still shooting Q2 Summer 2025. And you are right schedule starts with the permit issuance. So 2.5 years is correct.


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PostJan 31, 2025#585

Chris Stritzel wrote:These little businesses are great additions. Interior designs are great as well. The website for the apartments exists, but not much is there yet.
https://jeffersonarmsresidences.com/ 
Hello Chris

We are working with our team to bring up multiple website at once for the outlets.

Model units should be open late April / early May.


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PostJan 31, 2025#586

Such a great project. Also, great to have a developer on site answering questions and giving his perspective. 

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PostJan 31, 2025#587

Seconding rheights. Thanks very much for answering questions Mike.

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PostJan 31, 2025#588

Mike, thank you for engaging in this discussion.  This is such an incredible project in a beautiful building that will have a great impact on that area of downtown.  Much like myself, my family, and my friends do at the 21C hotel (my former YMCA), I can't wait to support this with my business.

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PostFeb 13, 2025#589

KMOV toured the construction site

At the end they mention that Alterra is looking into the Railway Exchange

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PostFeb 14, 2025#590

robertn42 wrote:
Jan 31, 2025
Mike, thank you for engaging in this discussion.  This is such an incredible project in a beautiful building that will have a great impact on that area of downtown.  Much like myself, my family, and my friends do at the 21C hotel (my former YMCA), I can't wait to support this with my business.
Thank you Robert. Looking forward hosting you and your family.

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GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 13, 2025
KMOV toured the construction site

At the end they mention that Alterra is looking into the Railway Exchange
We are constantly looking new projects downtown St. Louis. Big believer in downtown core re-development.

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PostFeb 14, 2025#592

AlterraMike wrote:
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GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 13, 2025
KMOV toured the construction site

At the end they mention that Alterra is looking into the Railway Exchange
We are constantly looking new projects downtown St. Louis. Big believer in downtown core re-development.
Hope you guys get muni courts. I think the solution there is to leave the 4 walls but hallow it out and go vertical

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PostFeb 14, 2025#593

After seeing this project, I hope Alterra gets Railway and anything they are eyeing.

hey Alterra, interested in two historic brewery complexes along lemp avenue, one at Shenandoah and one at Cherokee???

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PostFeb 14, 2025#594

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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AlterraMike wrote:
Feb 14, 2025
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 13, 2025
KMOV toured the construction site

At the end they mention that Alterra is looking into the Railway Exchange
We are constantly looking new projects downtown St. Louis. Big believer in downtown core re-development.
Hope you guys get muni courts. I think the solution there is to leave the 4 walls but hallow it out and go vertical

We actually have a high level concept plan that turns the Court building into 200 regular rooms plus 40 lofts hotel. Possibly dual brand. Restaurants and collaborative art co-op (10-12 residents).

We are patiently waiting for further guidance from the City of St Louis on the award process.

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PostFeb 14, 2025#595

the Court building
Which building is that?

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PostFeb 14, 2025#596

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
Feb 14, 2025
After seeing this project, I hope Alterra gets Railway and anything they are eyeing.

hey Alterra, interested in two historic brewery complexes along lemp avenue, one at Shenandoah and one at Cherokee???
We would be interested looking at other projects in St Louis. Thank you for your kind words.

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chris fuller wrote:
Feb 14, 2025
the Court building
Which building is that?

I feel sympathy for the previous developer. It is not easy to get financing secured.


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PostFeb 14, 2025#598

The Lemp Brewery complex isn't downtown but could easily be one of the coolest parts of STL if redeveloped with proper vision. Streets have a narrow and European feel, ample space for retail, space for infill in and around the complex, and the opportunity for a proper European style plaza in the center (something STL lacks, the closest example in town would be the successful plaza in Kirkwood across from City Hall.) Not to mention, the complex is directed connected to Cherokee Street which is one of STL's most dynamic cultural corridors.

My personal vision has a focus on beer, include taprooms for five or six breweries (maybe a fancy, out of town brewery like Russian River) that can be hopped between. A beer museum would be tasteful as well (I could see AB wanting to partner in this project as they are right next door.) Perhaps even reopen Cherokee cave and provide tours. Then of course fill the rest of the complex with a classic mix of retail to keep things vibrant at all hours of the day. Leave some retail spaces open to rent at low cost to entrepreneurs to keep the quirky Cherokee street vibe alive. Build some apartments in the empty spaces to enclose more corridors, a hotel would be appropriate here as well IMO. Parking garage can be built in the lot across Broadway.

Plenty of inspiration available in the Lemp Brewery thread

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PostFeb 14, 2025#599

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Feb 14, 2025
The Lemp Brewery complex isn't downtown but could easily be one of the coolest parts of STL if redeveloped with proper vision. Streets have a narrow and European feel, ample space for retail, space for infill in and around the complex, and the opportunity for a proper European style plaza in the center (something STL lacks, the closest example in town would be the successful plaza in Kirkwood across from City Hall.) Not to mention, the complex is directed connected to Cherokee Street which is one of STL's most dynamic cultural corridors.

My personal vision has a focus on beer, include taprooms for five or six breweries (maybe a fancy, out of town brewery like Russian River) that can be hopped between. A beer museum would be tasteful as well (I could see AB wanting to partner in this project as they are right next door.) Perhaps even reopen Cherokee cave and provide tours. Then of course fill the rest of the complex with a classic mix of retail to keep things vibrant at all hours of the day. Leave some retail spaces open to rent at low cost to entrepreneurs to keep the quirky Cherokee street vibe alive. Build some apartments in the empty spaces to enclose more corridors, a hotel would be appropriate here as well IMO. Parking garage can be built in the lot across Broadway.

Plenty of inspiration available in the Lemp Brewery thread
I will check it out. Thank you.

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PostFeb 14, 2025#600

^I've always thought The Historic Pearl Brewery development in San Antonio is a good model for Lemp... I would say The Pearl might be a little more luxury than I'd imagine Lemp being or St. Louis for that matter, but they did some amazing stuff over there. 

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