Maybe if the main backdrop color was red, you could limit criticism by making some BS connection to supporting the Cardinals. You could sell a bag of dog poop in this town if it had a Cardinals logo on it.
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mvp wrote:The Central Scrutinizer wrote:"Fresh and vibrant concept", "Premium experience"....
Translation: closed by the end of the year.
I had a chance to meet the owner of Black Label and he is a Triple A all star pitcher. There is a good chance that he will be walking from Black Label across the street to Busch Stadium to play for or against the Cardinals. That would be a great story.
Drove by today, they're open now. I think Jack's Black Label is the name
C'mon Chivvis, let's think outside the box here, literally... Obviously money is an issue, it is for everyone at this time, but if you are just gonna give it a paint job and some windows, at least be bold with it. People are going to go from saying "Whats the abandoned graffiti building at the entrance of your city?" to saying "Whats the pee colored box at the entrance to your city?"
Expand your minds, give it an edge, spark an idea or an interest. That is, after all, the purpose of art isn't it?
Is it really too much to ask our architects, designers, and planners to be bold?
Here's an example of a bold, inexpensive idea:
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Expand your minds, give it an edge, spark an idea or an interest. That is, after all, the purpose of art isn't it?
Is it really too much to ask our architects, designers, and planners to be bold?
Here's an example of a bold, inexpensive idea:
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^ That's great! Where is that project?
And you're exactly right that such bold ideas should be implemented here. Part of the problem, as I see it, is it that too few developers and business owners are willing to take the chance or foot the bill on highly innovative, bold, progressive ideas. I guarantee you many architects/designers have made such bold proposals that have been turned down by clients; it happens far too often (everywhere, not just here). Hopefully this will change when the economy (finally) improves.
And you're exactly right that such bold ideas should be implemented here. Part of the problem, as I see it, is it that too few developers and business owners are willing to take the chance or foot the bill on highly innovative, bold, progressive ideas. I guarantee you many architects/designers have made such bold proposals that have been turned down by clients; it happens far too often (everywhere, not just here). Hopefully this will change when the economy (finally) improves.
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UrbanPioneer wrote:^ That's great! Where is that project?
I'm almost positive that is in Columbus, OH at the Nationwide HQ. Or it is just an ad for Nationwide, but I'm fairly positive its in downtown Columbus.
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Talk about a waste of open space in a downtown.
UrbanPioneer wrote:^ That's great! Where is that project?
I guarantee you many architects/designers have made such bold proposals that have been turned down by clients; it happens far too often (everywhere, not just here). Hopefully this will change when the economy (finally) improves.
That is a very good point. I have been in that situation myself. And yes, it is in Columbus.
But this particular example is not much more than a paint job and some junked cars. I would imagine it's not even a permanent ad. So the bill here, I would imagine is not very big, comparatively speaking to, say, a large glowing LED mohawk. If it absolutely had to be changed, the owners can get out the paint rollers.
I can see this kind of thing being rejected in St. Chuck, or Chesterfield for not meeting the demands of the neighborhood association, but for those of us that live our lives in an otherwise progressive neighborhood, I can't see this sort of vibrant thinking being opposed by the majority.... Especially for a supposed up and coming ART DISTRICT.
ricke002 wrote:Talk about a waste of open space in a downtown.
What exactly are you referring to? It's a parking lot, where you go to park your car.... We have a few of those in downtown Saint Louis, except without the clever ad design. Why not make use of an available space until something happens with it?
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Magnatron wrote:ricke002 wrote:Talk about a waste of open space in a downtown.
What exactly are you referring to?
I was just anticipating someone saying that, so I just said it myself.
Also, in regards to Magnatron, the ad was up when I was last in Columbus, which was June '07. So it is somewhat permanent.
ricke002 wrote:Magnatron wrote:ricke002 wrote:Talk about a waste of open space in a downtown.
What exactly are you referring to?
I was just anticipating someone saying that, so I just said it myself.
Also, in regards to Magnatron, the ad was up when I was last in Columbus, which was June '07. So it is somewhat permanent.
Right on, just makin' sure. I can see them wanting to keep it there as long as possible, but my point was that if they wanted to restore this building and lot to it's previous condition, it would be that big of a deal...no wrecking ball or cranes needed... My point prior to that was that this kind of innovative thinking can be both economic and bold, with little risk for the investors.
Of course, there are those that would say that the wrecking ball would be the most economic way to get rid of the paint... then they would have double the surface lot income.
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Quick St. Louis Urban Workshop post about artist and revitalizing cities: http://stlurbanworkshop.blogspot.com/20 ... 0s-of.html
The topic's been in the news a lot lately and there are several efforts here in St. Louis to lure the "creative class" to the city, but it seems that every city has the same idea (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit . . . . ). I think the idea has pretty severe limits even though there are some nice stories. Let's hope Chouteau's Landing takes off, but I tend to think that "real" artist communities typically come about in a more organic fashion (Washington Avenue before the rehabs/North Broadway).
The topic's been in the news a lot lately and there are several efforts here in St. Louis to lure the "creative class" to the city, but it seems that every city has the same idea (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit . . . . ). I think the idea has pretty severe limits even though there are some nice stories. Let's hope Chouteau's Landing takes off, but I tend to think that "real" artist communities typically come about in a more organic fashion (Washington Avenue before the rehabs/North Broadway).
article from the RFT on Chouteau Landing and some of the unfortunate loses there
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyr ... istory.php
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyr ... istory.php