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stl1991 wrote:anybody have any updates on this project

There's definitely work going on at the corner of Gratiot and 4th. I think it's the Bushwoods Sportsbar, but not sure.

There's a small sign that says Bushwoods is accepting applications.

Developer sees Chouteau's Landing as arts district

Go south of Laclede's Landing, past the bars, the casinos and the weekend crowds and you'll find another riverfront spot that's considerably less active: Chouteau's Landing.



Empty land and old brick buildings define South Fourth to South First streets, and the Poplar Street Bridge to Convent Street. But through a three-phase mixed-use overhaul of 58 acres, real estate attorney Stephen Murphy hopes to sculpt the area into an arts district in the next decade.

Full story at the link.



-RBB

^Quite honestly, this is the only good news I've heard about the city so far in '08. This is the kind of visionary project that attracts the creative blood cities like St. Louis need so badly. This is truly a progressive plan, and one we need more of. YAY!

JivecitySTL wrote:^Quite honestly, this is the only good news I've heard about the city so far in '08. This is the kind of visionary project that attracts the creative blood cities like St. Louis need so badly. This is truly a progressive plan, and one we need more of. YAY!

I agree jive we need to be working on using the buildings we already have and keeping are historical architecture. Ballpark Village is cool and everything but projects like this is and ONSL are what really make St. Louis a great town. Rehabilitation always kills urban renewal, hopefully our leaders will find out before its too late for some of our most beautiful architecture.

I saw an ad for Bushwood's in the RFT. It just said they are opening soon. Work is still progressing on the back patio when I drove by yesterday.

goat314 wrote:

JivecitySTL wrote:^Quite honestly, this is the only good news I've heard about the city so far in '08. This is the kind of visionary project that attracts the creative blood cities like St. Louis need so badly. This is truly a progressive plan, and one we need more of. YAY!

I agree jive we need to be working on using the buildings we already have and keeping are historical architecture. Ballpark Village is cool and everything but projects like this is and ONSL are what really make St. Louis a great town. Rehabilitation always kills urban renewal, hopefully our leaders will find out before its too late for some of our most beautiful architecture.

On top of that, this project is so refreshing in that it does not target the yuppies we see other downtown projects aiming for. This is going to attract much-needed artists and creative types-- a demographic any vibrant city must possess. This sends a message to those artistic young people that St. Louis is a city that appreciates and thereby supports and fosters an environment conducive to creative expression. I would love to see the North Broadway corridor follow suit.

JivecitySTL wrote:

goat314 wrote:

JivecitySTL wrote:^Quite honestly, this is the only good news I've heard about the city so far in '08. This is the kind of visionary project that attracts the creative blood cities like St. Louis need so badly. This is truly a progressive plan, and one we need more of. YAY!

I agree jive we need to be working on using the buildings we already have and keeping are historical architecture. Ballpark Village is cool and everything but projects like this is and ONSL are what really make St. Louis a great town. Rehabilitation always kills urban renewal, hopefully our leaders will find out before its too late for some of our most beautiful architecture.

On top of that, this project is so refreshing in that it does not target the yuppies we see other downtown projects aiming for. This is going to attract much-needed artists and creative types-- a demographic any vibrant city must possess. This sends a message to those artistic young people that St. Louis is a city that appreciates and thereby supports and fosters an environment conducive to creative expression. I would love to see the North Broadway corridor follow suit.

Jive I'm glad your a person that values what makes this city great and you seem to know this city needs to become a great place. I agree with you, I mean yuppies are welcome, but St. Louis should be looking to attract young vibrant educated people from St. Louis and abroad. I see soooo much potential for St. Louis! We could be so many things here, its just a matter of getting our young urbanites involved and trying to get control of the Missouri govt. which is ran by farmers (no offense to farmers, but their socially and economically conservative politics hold St. Louis back). I could think of some many things that St. Louis could be.

1) A city known for its historical architectural character.

2) We could put Biloxi out of business if we got rid of all of these gambling restrictions, if I was Slay I would ask the Missouri legislature to just allow casino gambling in urban areas like St. Louis city (We could have a gambling strip running up the northside of the riverfront near Pinnacle and more family oriented things heading South near the arch).

3)More Artsy districts like this promoting creativity and education.

There's supposed to be something on KMOV 6:00pm news tonight about Chouteau's Landing and Bushwoods which, according to an update from Chivvis today, will open "no later than April 10".

Got this in an e-mail today:

What Would You Say?

Trader Joe's has four locations in St. Louis County, all located in neighborhoods along the Central Corridor. Since the Trader Joe's mission is to offer a "neighborhood" grocery,

what facts would you use to persuade the

company to reconsider investing in a location

in the City of St. Louis?

To post your comment, you can go here.



I know it's been hashed over on these boards in the past, but I'd love to see a TJs in proximity to downtown.



-RBB

Does anyone have or know of the second or third phase?

ChrisInDownTown wrote:I may be off here but...was the developer the same guy who is now in all the trouble with teh Ford? Or am I getting my names mixed up.

Matt Burghoff did propose a grocery somewhere on Washington Avenue, but I don't remember the exact location.

Conurbation wrote:I ended up at Hot Shots of all places to watch the game yesterday, and though the area is improving, I still have my concerns. There isn't a cohesive feel to the area and all the parking lots and utility stations make me think thats going to be hard to change. Looking forward to Bushwoods though. If only Imos would spruce up their place.

What I would like to see long-term, either in conjunction with or independent of any Chouteau's Pond plans (and let's not sit around waiting for that to happen), is infill development on the parking lots along Broadway. Parking could still be retained behind the new buildings, but at least give Broadway and maybe Fourth Street a more "finished" look.

Conurbation wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote:


What I would like to see long-term, either in conjunction with or independent of any Chouteau's Pond plans (and let's not sit around waiting for that to happen), is infill development on the parking lots along Broadway. Parking could still be retained behind the new buildings, but at least give Broadway and maybe Fourth Street a more "finished" look.

Speaking of finished look, what about all the horrible railroad and highway bridges bisecting the area? I understand that they have their functional uses, but why do they have to be so ugly? Rusty bridges with no lighting and chain-link fences going every which way does not an attractive setting make.

I think artsy people like that kind of stuff, it gives the area character.

Conurbation wrote:Speaking of finished look, what about all the horrible railroad and highway bridges bisecting the area? I understand that they have their functional uses, but why do they have to be so ugly? Rusty bridges with no lighting and chain-link fences going every which way does not an attractive setting make.

While not ideal, I think they could be pretty cool if spruced up a little bit. There used to be a building just south of the bridge between Broadway and Fourth that I wish was still there.

Conurbation wrote:

goat314 wrote:

I think artsy people like that kind of stuff, it gives the area character.

I'd qualify myself as pretty artsy and I hate it. Its not character, its disrepair. It makes the area look dirty. I'm not advocating ripping anything out or doing anything drastic. I just think a new coat of paint after 50 years of disrepair isn't too much to ask for.

agreed! I though you were advocating ripping it out at first...my bad.