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I'd like to see a simple bodega/convenience store. Dogtown's already pretty well served by the Schnuck's, Shop 'n Shop, Whole Foods, and specialty stores on The Hill all within 5-10 minutes away. A simple convenience store could be a great neighborhood asset though.

Dogtown used to have two smaller grocery/convenience stores in Garavaglia's and Gewinners. Both closed up shop for one reason or another. Based on the square footage, the previously mentioned Fields Foods would make sense. Much too small for any traditional grocer, I don't anticipate that it would be Aldi or Trader Joe's as - while they can squeeze into ~12,000sf - both have stores within a few miles.

Gewinner's was a staple in the neighborhood. That store did very well. The owners closed due to burnout. They wanted to do something else. The guy that bought it from the Gewinner family ran the store into the ground. He had no business running a store. He was also not as friendly as the Gewinner family. He never made an effort to become part of the neighborhood. He was all business, ignoring the "marketing" requirement that comes with running the neighborhood grocer. I think now that Dogtown is more of a young and hip hood, that will not be as much an issue. It will be about competitive pricing and variety, along with convenience. That will be a given. The others may be more challenging. No matter what, this project is great for Dogtown and long overdue.

Any new news on this? is it still moving forward?

There's going to be a city zoning variance hearing in early May. The Clayton-Tamm Community Association has already voted in favor of granting the variance, but it's up to the city. The TIF ordinance will be introduced after that. Apparently construction can start in the late summer according to this: https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... 29_001.pdf

Why I support the 3.8 million in tax incentives they're requesting for this activity.
- The planned grocery will create dozens of neighborhood jobs.
- Will generate large sales tax revenues. Currently the closest grocery to this area is in Clayton.
- Project investment is guaranteed to firm up the Clayton-Tamm retail market.


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It might have mentioned it in that link, I didn't read all 50 pages, but the grocery store is going to be Fields foods. At least according to the Dogtown Facebook page.

Actually the closest grocery is in Richmond Heights about a mile away, not necessarily a food desert but not walkable either.

Stl Public Radio - Developers seek tax increment financing for proposed Dogtown project

A planned $26 million apartment and retail development in St. Louis’ Dogtown neighborhood could remake a long neglected spot.

In case you were wondering where the tax incentives are going

Ogilvie said the developer is seeking tax increment financing from the city to help pay for planned underground parking. TIF allows developers to take the increase in tax revenue and put that toward paying off development costs.

“The underground parking is expensive and in this case, the tax increment financing would basically, one-to-one, offset the cost of the underground parking they have to build to make it work,” he said.

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/dev ... wn-project

^ PD business article noting a August construction date for 2018 opening. Looks like speculation on Field Foods being the grocer

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... f0e96.html

The group plans to start construction in August and open by October 2018. Monthly rents are expected to range between about $1,300 and $1,500 for one-bedroom units and up to $1,900 for two-bedroom apartments

I was looking at the developer's website and found that this project will be branded "Hibernia".

https://www.hiberniabypearl.com/

There also seems to be another $12,000,000 St. Louis project here: http://pearlrealestatefunds.com/portfolio/.

Does anyone know what that might be?

td443 wrote: ↑

Jul 21, 2017

I was looking at the developer's website and found that this project will be branded "Hibernia".

https://www.hiberniabypearl.com/

There also seems to be another $12,000,000 St. Louis project here: http://pearlrealestatefunds.com/portfolio/.

Does anyone know what that might be?

I messaged them on Facebook a while back asking about it

Currently we have a couple different potential future projects that are under development/in the works in St Louis. I believe you may be talking about the placeholder spot on our "Portfolio" page on the www.pearlrealestatefunds.com site

Once we know which project will be under contract we will be updating the site with location info

Sounds like nothing under contract yet so they won't spill the beans

Fields Foods to be the grocery operator - confirming a rumor from a few months back

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 1597a.html

Does anyone have an update on this one? I thought they would be moving some dirt by now. Maybe they are, I haven't been by there in awhile.

Haven't seen any dirt moved as of a couple weeks ago.

Still no movement. Construction was set for August. Anyone hear anything?


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Jan 14, 2018

Still no movement. Construction was set for August. Anyone hear anything?


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Scott Ogilvie got back to me after I sent him an email and he said that "hopefully construction would get underway by the end of this month. The developer was wrapping up financing for the project".

A person in a dogtown group took a picture of equipment getting to the site today.

^ building permit has been issued; first big new multifamily residential construction permit of the year but there should be lots more to come.

10 months?!? I highly doubt it.

http://fox2now.com/2018/02/19/new-dogt ... HAZNYUY8Gs

^ Sounds awfully aggressive but they do appear to have all the financing secured as per PD article

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 95697.html

The developers behind the Hibernia Apartments have secured $20 million in construction financing to help complete the Dogtown project that will be anchored by a Fields Foods grocery store.

^ Great news that this appears to be a done deal. This will be a boom for the local businesses. Can't wait to see the finished product. Does anyone know if this complex has a swimming pool? I saw a dog park and a few other amenities.

Only problem, it will be harder to get a seat at Seamus McDaniels......

^Hopefully not too big of a boom for the businesses.

The article doesn't list a pool as being among he amenities.