Will they make Megabus move to this facility or will they continue to operate in front of Union Station?
Also, are there plans for parking, long-term or short-term?
Also, are there plans for parking, long-term or short-term?
Megabus will probably still operate out on the curb in front of Union Station. That's part of their low cost structure - not much in the way of service. I don't believe they use bus terminals in any of their cities.
Not sure on the parking plans, but the current station has parking for Amtrak customers, although I believe all of their current lot will be turning into trackage.
There is a lot to the west of the new station that has short term parking, not sure about long term options.
Not sure on the parking plans, but the current station has parking for Amtrak customers, although I believe all of their current lot will be turning into trackage.
There is a lot to the west of the new station that has short term parking, not sure about long term options.
I'M CONFUSED. Doesn't St. Louis already have a beautiful building that was built for this very purpose? Why don't they "un-renovate" Union Station and turn it into an actual station again. It could also be where a N-S Metro line intersects the current E-W line. This seems like an enormous waste of an opportunity to return Union Station to its rightful place in the city as a transportation hub. It would do more for the city than a new building, or what the station is currently doing for the city. It's just sad that there is not leader with this vision.
Note: I didn't read all 20-something pages so I don't know if this was already discussed.
Note: I didn't read all 20-something pages so I don't know if this was already discussed.
Been discussed many times. The answer is that Union Station was set up to be a terminal, where the trains back in and out. AMTRAK wants pull through stations nowadays, so that is what we get.
moreso;
STL Union Station is completely private entity with no state/fed funding for transportation at all. The new Gateway Transportation Station allows easy access via METRO to Union Station - one stop west. More info on that subject discussed to nausea in the last 20 some pages.
The Lincoln Service is almost express service to/from Chicago. I will be taking the 9:25 train in the morning from Chicago to STL tommorrow actually.
AMTRAK STL-CHICAGO SERVICE SCHEDULE (weekdays)
CHI TO STL:
7:00 am
9:25 am
1:45 pm
3:00 pm
5:15 pm
7:00 pm
STL TO CHI:
4:35 am
6:35 am
8:30 am Rush Hour Train 1
8:30 am Rush Hour Train 2
3:00 pm
5:30 pm
STL Union Station is completely private entity with no state/fed funding for transportation at all. The new Gateway Transportation Station allows easy access via METRO to Union Station - one stop west. More info on that subject discussed to nausea in the last 20 some pages.
The good news: If you avoid the Texas train, the STL-Chicago run stays remarkably close to schedule.
The Lincoln Service is almost express service to/from Chicago. I will be taking the 9:25 train in the morning from Chicago to STL tommorrow actually.
AMTRAK STL-CHICAGO SERVICE SCHEDULE (weekdays)
CHI TO STL:
7:00 am
9:25 am
1:45 pm
3:00 pm
5:15 pm
7:00 pm
STL TO CHI:
4:35 am
6:35 am
8:30 am Rush Hour Train 1
8:30 am Rush Hour Train 2
3:00 pm
5:30 pm
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Doesn't St. Louis already have a beautiful building that was built for this very purpose?
Sure, but like the Old Courthouse, buildings don't always remain their original purpose.
It could also be where a N-S Metro line intersects the current E-W line.
Actually, the most recent plans for a N-S Metro use 14th Street in order to provide connections to the new terminal, keeping Civic Center, not Union Station, as the transfer hub of Downtown.
Hey do anybody have any new pictures of the new GATEWAY TRANS STATION the other pics are old [/b]
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I took Metrolink to the airport on Monday and noticed Amtrak was putting down what appeared to be three sets of tracks running in a straight line from Bush Stadium. I always wondered why Metrolink jogged to the right at that spot and now know why: Amtrak had rights to the other tracks and is now using them to full advantage.
I'd be surprised if it took until late summer to complete the tracks as it looks as though they're quite far along on them.
I'd be surprised if it took until late summer to complete the tracks as it looks as though they're quite far along on them.
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We have pictures that are about three weeks old. Nothings spectacular.
How much of this project is complete and when will it be finished.I moved to Michigan and haven't been home in years I REMEMBER THE OLD BUS STATION before they moved to the Cass Bank it was nice but I would love to see some new pics if anybody has some.
^I remember the old bus station, too. It was a great building. And the guy on the loudspeaker was a real pro "...and points beyond". It was like being in a movie. Of course, like all bus stations, lots of strange people around.
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^^I bet if you read the last couple pages of this thread you would find out
I'm pretty sure that's the bus station that was demolished to build the Dome. 801 North Broadway.
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why would you send someone a postcard with pictures of a bus station 
Lots of folks did once view the bus as a viable transportation option.
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Big 18 wheeler was in front of the train part so I couldn't get a good shot.
Big 18 wheeler was in front of the train part so I couldn't get a good shot.
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^ That building? If you're talking about the painted building. It used to be an Edison Brothers warehouse, but now is a Sheraton as well as luxury condos. It was developed by the late Don Breckenridge.
http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t ... t=sheraton
http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t ... t=sheraton
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YAY! It's a $10 million (or whatever) glorified AmShack! Sweet - now we have a train station to rival Portland (Maine that is!) 
Your tax dollars at sleep. And possibly on drugs
Your tax dollars at sleep. And possibly on drugs
I'm guessing that you never saw or were in the actaul Amshack. This is a huge improvement over the Amshack and the current temporary facility. And really the pictures do not do it justice. What you see is the Bus terminal, as Dweebe said the rail portion is not pictured, because it was blocked. Is it perfect? No. Is it a huge improvement? Yes.
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migueltejada wrote:YAY! It's a $10 million (or whatever) glorified AmShack! Sweet - now we have a train station to rival Portland (Maine that is!)
Your tax dollars at sleep. And possibly on drugs
Yet another example of how out of touch you are "down under."
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^ Oh really?
http://www.trainweb.org/usarail/portlandme.htm
You tell me.
And I may be living a billion miles away, but I can still tell when something looks like dog turds.
In fact, ours looks worse. Gray/black color scheme, low flat lines, blech. Cloudy skies or not, full shot or not, it looks miserable, considering how much was spent on the damn thing. And I've been to the AmShack AND the new "temporary" station, so don't lecture me on what they looked like. The current one looks better IMO - at least it's brick! This one looks straight from communist Russia.
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http://www.trainweb.org/usarail/portlandme.htm
You tell me.
And I may be living a billion miles away, but I can still tell when something looks like dog turds.
In fact, ours looks worse. Gray/black color scheme, low flat lines, blech. Cloudy skies or not, full shot or not, it looks miserable, considering how much was spent on the damn thing. And I've been to the AmShack AND the new "temporary" station, so don't lecture me on what they looked like. The current one looks better IMO - at least it's brick! This one looks straight from communist Russia.
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LOL!! That was funny.southsidepride wrote:why would you send someone a postcard with pictures of a bus station
Back in the day before air travel became more affordable, interstate bus services like Greyhound and Trailways stayed packed with people. Bus stations stayed packed. As people traveled city-to-city, often times there were layovers in the larger cities, and people had to wait to make connections to finish their journey. I once traveled from St. Louis to Houston in the early 80's and it took 24 hrs. I had a four hour layover in Little Rock. I vowed to never travel that far by bus again. I'm sure it's still somewhat like that, but likely not at the same level it was 25-50 years ago.
Anyway, I could see how a bus station post card would have been sent out by a traveler/passenger rolling through St. Louis on Greyhound or Trailways. And at a bus station, I suspect there probably were not too many post cards from which one could choose.