urbanSTL

Hmmm, investing minimal amounts of cash into guys that will be equal of Jason Marquis, Ted Lilly, Rich Hill and Mark Prior. Lilly for $10 million? Or Reyes for $350K? Jason Marquis for $8 million? Or Kip Wells for $4 million? Rich Hill or Adam Wainwright? Mark Prior could be one of the great pitchers in baseball, but his head (or mouth), and body don't seem to cooperate.



While I don't love what the Cards did this offseason...I would rather do what they did and not pay average pitchers oodles of cash, instead giving opportunities to younger guys. If Wainwright is able to start the entire season (c'mon, Izzy...stay healthy), then he'll be a viable #2. And I think Kip Wells is gonna be pretty freakin' good this year.

well, since we're talking about the birds this season. There are still rumbl'ings about the birds landing another starter via trade b4 the season begins.

Also, keep in mind that Mulder did win more games than any other pitcher the last 4 or so years. So IF he returns to his previous form, having a dominant lefty to back up Carp doesn't look too bad. Our lineup should be improved over last year as well.

Doug wrote:I have tickets to opening day. A wonderful blonde will be accompanying me.

have fun with him

bpe235 wrote:

Doug wrote:I have tickets to opening day. A wonderful blonde will be accompanying me.

have fun with him

Groan........

And to think I backed out from sliding an Anna Nicole joke in here.......

bsharmastl wrote:Groan...

Groan indeed. What's with the multiple anti-gay references in this thread?



Enough already.

I don't think that's necessarily true. The year after ARod signed his deal (and I think Manny signed his), the market rebounded significantly.



The next year Pujols signed for just 15-16 million, when he was worth much more under the ARod/Manny pricing scheme. Ridiculous pricing on players who don't perform make GM's unhappy. I'm not saying it will happen this year, but it certainly has in the past.

ThreeOneFour wrote:

bsharmastl wrote:Groan...

Groan indeed. What's with the multiple anti-gay references in this thread?



Enough already.

bpe's comment wasn't an anti-gay reference. It was called a joke and I can't see how it could offend anyone. Not sure about the earlier comments; I think they were meant to be posted in another thread.

^ I wasn't offended. I knew the comment was purely in jest, but someone else may have interpreted it differently.

so, where is this club opening?

If you build sufficiently through the draft, and create a farm system that can produce quality players...you don't need to play the market. Look at what Oakland has done over the years.



When you don't have the players in the minors, then you have to play the market. But Reyes and Wainwright are guys that we have worked to filter into the starting rotation for the last 3 years or so. We've got 2-3 legit pitching prospects down in A and AA.



I don't get overpaying for somebody like Weaver or another similar player, when you can give Reyes the chance he deserves. All signs point to Reyes being a better pitcher in the long run than Weaver, who's always been sort of hot and cold, and teases you with his abilities on to throw it away because of what is in between his ears.



The Cardinals were smart to save their money, and hold out for the guy they want later. So they can take on payroll should the right trade arise to make the team better for the stretch run.

Does anyone know where this is going? I just drove through the area and I have an idea. It could possible be the building just west of the packard lofts. 1227 locust (I think) A 2 story building that was for sale last month but no longer has a for sale sign on it. It is a really cool builidng... anyway it is just my guess.

MidcoastSTL wrote:Does anyone know where this is going? I just drove through the area and I have an idea. It could possible be the building just west of the packard lofts. 1227 locust (I think) A 2 story building that was for sale last month but no longer has a for sale sign on it. It is a really cool builidng... anyway it is just my guess.

It's going in just South East of Panama Reds on Locust, i.e. 3/4 of a block East of Pepper Lounge.

Man I was really hoping Larry Rice was selling his building to Jimbo!



get a great new venue and have Jimmy pop for another few mil to fly the bums to the LA area..first class of course ... Old St. Lou wouldn't want to make any lists for not being kind to da bums..



I guess it might take ALBERT money to get that done!

The Business Journal reports that "Fifteen on Locust" will be an upscale steak house, lounge and banquet facility set to open this summer with 16,000 sf at 1900 Locust. The development will include 2,300 sf of office space.

DeBaliviere wrote: "Fifteen on Locust"

I am so sick of restaurants that use their addresses as their names.



Use your brain already and come up with something original!

steve wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote: "Fifteen on Locust"

I am so sick of restaurants that use their addresses as their names.



Use your brain already and come up with something original!

I think that's a reference to his uniform number, but I agree with you. I'm willing to let Eleven Eleven slide, but that's it!

^Woops, you're right. That's what I get for not reading closely enough.



Still, I stand by my statement as a general comment.

^ And I agree with that statement!



I can't picture the specific building right now, but it looks like Edmonds picked a fine location for his new establishment.

steve wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote: "Fifteen on Locust"

I am so sick of restaurants that use their addresses as their names.



Use your brain already and come up with something original!

What about the nightclub "1227" which basicly started the whole rebirth of Washington Ave?

ThreeOneFour wrote:I can't picture the specific building right now, but it looks like Edmonds picked a fine location for his new establishment.

I think it's this building:

DeBaliviere wrote:

steve wrote:

DeBaliviere wrote: "Fifteen on Locust"

I am so sick of restaurants that use their addresses as their names.



Use your brain already and come up with something original!

I think that's a reference to his uniform number, but I agree with you. I'm willing to let Eleven Eleven slide, but that's it!

Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of too...

It's a nice play on the fact that his jersey number is 15.



Maybe it's too clever for some???