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Matt Drops The H wrote:


I mean, would you be happy if the city lured a Barnes and Noble to locate a block away from the new downtown Left Bank Books?

In perspective, would that be the worst thing to happen to the City?



In my opinion, there's a healthy pool of potential downtown residents that will possibly be convinced by a walkable Schnucks...I'm thinking of people who live in similarly priced apartments/condos along Olive Blvd, who are looking for more out of their neighborhood, who will bring with them a healthy disposable income.



To cut to the chase, I have no problem with yuppies, its part of what makes Downtown Chicago/ Downtown Minneapolis/ Downtown Denver...any midsized or large downtown that has a leg up on Downtown St. Louis. I'd rather have a healthy chunk of the regions big spenders downtown than in Creve Coeur...the fact of the matter is that the City is large enough to accommodate everyone and all kinds of businesses without fears of homogeneity or whatever. The City needs to be able to generally match what the suburbs can offer (in urban form this time), and then one up them with the kinds of businesses that you and I frequent (which already is no problem).



Frankly, to take it further, I'd have no problem with a "Lincoln Park-izing" of downtown, it could be one of the best things to happen to the City in decades. Theres high quality urban neighborhoods that will frankly not survive in current form unless this happens. Theres new neighborhoods that do not currently exist that might if it does (i'm looking at midtown). Downtown St. Louis isn't like some coastal downtowns that have a deep, surviving local social context to work with.

Matt Drops The H wrote:
The desire for name credibility, and attracting those people who are slaves to it, is anathema to creating a unique, livable city differentiated from its own suburbs. St. Louis desperately needs creative, free thinkers who will be dedicated to pushing the city in a positive direction so that we can build off of recent successes.

I'm not sure that I quite buy this as I can't think of a single vibrant downtown that lacks recognizable business names. There are people who want unique and local and there are people who don't. I think the city and downtown will benefit from having both.



Andy didn't Heller receive "heavy subsidies" in the form of historic tax credits to complete his work downtown?

I'm sure it's been covered...but what are the hours going to be?

That guy has a lot going on with the Diner, Copia and the Wash Market trying to get going.



Time doesnt seem to be a worry for that one.

bprop wrote:I checked out some prices through the windows. They are very reasonable from what I can see. Some frozen dinners, which I get on sale at SnS for 4/$10 are $2.95 regular price at Culinaria. Pizzas which I've gotten for 3/$8 are $2.89 regular price. There were a few other things facing the window that seemed in line with what I'd expect at the local Schnucks or even SnS.

I suspect most prices on everyday items will be in line with other Schnuck's. Where they will make the big money is on prepared foods and the deli lunch crowd.

I have been out of town in the uk for a bit and noticing a lot of bike racks outside of grocery stores. Has anyone at schnucks been smart enough to think of putting racks outside. I live downtown and always bike to city grocers with my big city grocers reusable bag and always lock it to the parking meter or the lamp-post. As of last week, before i left, there were no bike racks outside, someone please tell me schnucks can splurge 200 bucks to put one in before it opens. Has anyone seen any?