Think of Meijer like the Menards of grocery. Their product mix is a bit more "walmart super center" than Schnucks.
Downtown Detroit Collapsed and Recovered. Here Are the Takeaways
oh no this could be spam or drivel LOL
https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/01/what-can-san-francisco-learn-from-the-motor-city/
oh no this could be spam or drivel LOL
https://sfstandard.com/2023/08/01/what-can-san-francisco-learn-from-the-motor-city/
General Motors is moving their HQ from the Renaissance Center to Dan Gilbert's new Hudsons Tower.
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 328040007/
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 328040007/
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Census bureau estimates that the City of Detroit gained population for the first time in 66 years.
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New Detroit City FC stadium planned in Corktown
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https://www.crainsdetroit.com/sports-recreation/new-detroit-city-fc-stadium-planned-corktownDetroit City FC is planning on leaving its Keyworth Stadium home in Hamtramck to return to playing on a pitch in Detroit.
The popular soccer club that draws thousands of diehard fans confirmed Thursday that it plans a new stadium on the site of the former Southwest Detroit Hospital in Corktown. The long-vacant hospital property at Michigan Avenue and 20th Street was recently purchased for $6.5 million by an entity connected to former Urban Bean Co. coffee shop co-owner Edward Siegel. A news release from DCFC says the team owns the site.
Specifics about the stadium were not revealed other than an anticipated opening in 2027, but a source briefed on the matter said it's expected to seat about 14,000 people. Both the men's team and women's team would use it. “This is a huge step for our organization to build a modern venue to serve our club and community," Sean Mann, CEO of Detroit City FC, said in a statement. "As longtime residents of the city, with a few of us even living within walking distance of the site, the leaders and founders of the club view this project not only as an opportunity to grow our organization and sport, but as a civic endeavor to give back to the city we love. We look forward to starting a process to connect with our supporters, city residents, and community leaders, among others, to craft a community-focused, grassroots professional soccer stadium that serves the city of Detroit."
Neither Mann or Alex Wright, co-owner and chief creative officer of DCFC, were made available for interviews.
Specifics about the proposal are not known, including project costs or any other components of the plan. However, sources said the project is expected to go through the city’s Community Benefits Ordinance process. The process requires that development projects totaling $75 million or more receiving $1 million or more in property tax abatements or $1 million or more in city land engage with a Neighborhood Advisory Council to establish community benefits. Those can include things like jobs, local hiring, environmental protections, land use programs and local small business and resident inclusion.
The hospital is expected to be razed as part of the plan, sources said. There have been several attempts to raze the 250,000-square-foot hospital, which sits on about 5.67 acres, dating back more than a decade. A source familiar with the matter said the team is also looking at additional property that would bring the overall development site to about 10 acres. A team spokesperson said it had the land it needed for the stadium itself. In the end, it would host matches bringing thousands of dedicated DCFC supporters and others to the site.
“A DCFC home match is a can’t-miss stop for any true sports fan in the U.S., but our players, staff, and supporters deserve a stadium with modern amenities that retains the best elements of Keyworth while also putting the club on firmer financial footing,” Wright said in a statement. “The city and the people of Hamtramck were there when we needed them. Investments by our club and supporters give proof of our gratitude, and we are excited to set forth on the challenge to make our forever home just as iconic.”
A release says "a public engagement process" is slated to start later this year.
Ryan Cooley, who has a small ownership stake in the soccer team and who runs Detroit-based O'Connor Realty, said the stadium is the best outcome for the dilapidated hospital property.
"I really think location wise it’s fantastic because it’s kind of on the outskirts of the neighborhood and it really doesn’t bump up against any residential," Cooley said. "I would think with the location of it, everyone is going to be excited about it. The bar and restaurant owners I’m also assuming are going to be ecstatic about this."
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^I've been reading about that a little bit. I'm very glad to see it back open.
Future of Detroit RenCen increasingly leans toward demolition of most towers
The discussions are preliminary, with studies underway on the best future use for the riverfront property after GM moves to Gilbert's new Hudson's Detroit building in the city's core downtown. But according to several people familiar with the matter, early thinking leans toward tearing down most of the seven towers and leaving one or two standing to preserve part of the skyline. The tower or towers left standing of Detroit's most recognizable building complex would then be renovated for new uses beyond the offices and shops it offers now, two of the people told the Detroit Free Press.
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Just spent the weekend here. I know they have 2X the metro population that we have but man, they seem to have their blank together. What can we learn from Detroit’s comeback besides not losing your NFL team?
I'm not sure what St. Louis the city government can learn from Detroit. Detroit benefits from its business leaders seeing the benefit in improving downtown and therefore the city's perception. Also billionaires dumping money into downtown. Unironically the closest thing we have is Bill DeWitt.
Meanwhile, on the post-covid HQ reshuffle, downtown STL gained Larson and Build a Bear, lost Brown and Crouppen and KMOV, and missed out on Emerson, Calares, Rawlings, and Energizer. You could throw Commerce in there too. It's so frustrating when these companies actively choose to go take no incentives and pay a premium for office space when there's plenty of buildings downtown they could move into for cheaper and some they could put a sign on and get free advertising. Some of them could full on buy their own building if they wanted.
But I guess spending 1.5x more for rent is worth less than an extra 10 minute drive on 64.
Meanwhile, on the post-covid HQ reshuffle, downtown STL gained Larson and Build a Bear, lost Brown and Crouppen and KMOV, and missed out on Emerson, Calares, Rawlings, and Energizer. You could throw Commerce in there too. It's so frustrating when these companies actively choose to go take no incentives and pay a premium for office space when there's plenty of buildings downtown they could move into for cheaper and some they could put a sign on and get free advertising. Some of them could full on buy their own building if they wanted.
But I guess spending 1.5x more for rent is worth less than an extra 10 minute drive on 64.
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Per comment above, Detroits business community went all in. Fortune 1000s made a concerted, collaborative commitment to downtown. We haven’t been able to do the same. City government has finally realized that downtown has to improve before progress can be made for the city and region as a whole. Big business has not made such a commitment, even though it makes economic sense for them to do so. If we can get the money in on downtown, it would improve very quickly. A couple relocations and consolidations downtown would spur the waiting private development spree that can be possible with the public investment coming over the next 10 yearswhitherSTL wrote: ↑Sep 08, 2024Just spent the weekend here. I know they have 2X the metro population that we have but man, they seem to have their blank together. What can we learn from Detroit’s comeback besides not losing your NFL team?
They don't have a Clayton and a city/county split to fight against.whitherSTL wrote: ↑Sep 08, 2024Just spent the weekend here. I know they have 2X the metro population that we have but man, they seem to have their blank together. What can we learn from Detroit’s comeback besides not losing your NFL team?
This is also true. St. Louis is one of the smallest cities with two capable "downtowns", and then it doesn't help when we have a strong suburban office park culture too where major companies like RGA, World Wide Technology, Post, Prairie Farms, Rawlings, First Bank, Edward Jones, Enterprise, and Bunge have all preferred suburban office buildings surrounded by parking lots and man-made lakes. STL could thrive with either 2 downtowns and no major suburban office market or 1 downtown and a major suburban office market, but it obviously can't thrive with all three. In a normal city, half of these companies would have big old downtown buildings with their name proudly plastered on them but....we aren't exactly normal.
At least the moves of Energizer and Emerson to Clayton and Larson and Build-a-Bear downtown suggest we might be shifting away from this terrible culture. Hopefully Edward Jones and/or Enterprise build new in Clayton or Downtown should they wise up and dump their last century HQs.
And let's not even look at the travesty of office space that MasterCard and Citi Bank have here....in normal cities they have beautiful skyscrapers in the middle of the city (or at least Clayton) but here in wonderful ST LOUIS they have office parks nowhere near St. Louis- but they use the Arch and downtown imagery on the job advertisements. If the city could collect revenue on non-St. Louis companies using the Arch/city imagery, we wouldn't need the earnings tax.
At least the moves of Energizer and Emerson to Clayton and Larson and Build-a-Bear downtown suggest we might be shifting away from this terrible culture. Hopefully Edward Jones and/or Enterprise build new in Clayton or Downtown should they wise up and dump their last century HQs.
And let's not even look at the travesty of office space that MasterCard and Citi Bank have here....in normal cities they have beautiful skyscrapers in the middle of the city (or at least Clayton) but here in wonderful ST LOUIS they have office parks nowhere near St. Louis- but they use the Arch and downtown imagery on the job advertisements. If the city could collect revenue on non-St. Louis companies using the Arch/city imagery, we wouldn't need the earnings tax.
Come on, guys; Detroit has lots of dense suburban office development. Southfield, Troy, etc.
Not at the density/mass of Clayton. Both of those remind me of Westport. Plus neither one of those are county seats.framer wrote: ↑Sep 09, 2024Come on, guys; Detroit has lots of dense suburban office development. Southfield, Troy, etc.
Plus Detroit is a metro area of 4.3 million vs our 2.8 million. They have much more weight/power in their state to get the help they need. Plus Detroit doesn't have to fight against another city of the same size across the state that hates it.
It’s not just the suburbs that downtown STL has to compete with. It’s more vibrant city neighborhoods than anything you’ll find in Detroit outside of downtown. There’s no CWE in Detroit. No Soulard, Benton Park, Tower Grove South, Shaw, Grove, Hill, Skinky D, etc.
All of Detroit’s revitalization efforts have been hyper concentrated downtown, which makes for good press and good first impressions, but as a whole, St. Louis is far healthier.
All of Detroit’s revitalization efforts have been hyper concentrated downtown, which makes for good press and good first impressions, but as a whole, St. Louis is far healthier.
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where is our STL billionaire(s)?
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/11/19/detroit-dan-gilbert-downtown-duggan-turnaround.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2024/11/19/detroit-dan-gilbert-downtown-duggan-turnaround.html
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Bedrock and GM have announced a $1.5 Billion plan to redevelop the Renaissance Center and Riverfront. The plan calls for two of the towers to demolished. "Tower 100" will become 300-400 apartments, "Tower 200" will be renovated office space, and the central tower (currently a hotel) will see its hotel room count slashed from 1300 rooms to 850 with the upper floors becoming residential.
Dan Gilbert/Bedrock will invest $1 Billion, GM will invest $250 Million, and the other $250 Million they're counting on public money.
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Dan Gilbert/Bedrock will invest $1 Billion, GM will invest $250 Million, and the other $250 Million they're counting on public money.





January 2016... same thing. They wanted to do a complete renovation and upgrade. In reality, GM wants out of Renaissance Center but the city is going to hold them accountable. So they want incentives and new visions to appease the public and city and get out of dodge downtown.
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Stayed in the Renaissance Center hotel (can't remember who owned it then) in summer 2016. Great place to stay--especially on the 68th floor when corporate was picking up the bill-- but the issue with the building has always been that it was disconnected from the rest of downtown. Yes you can walk to the heart of downtown Detroit or Greektown from there but I remember it not being easy.
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Located in the heart of Detroit's 4-mile Innovation Corridor, Bedrock’s 14-acre Gratiot Site is set to become a hub for life sciences, technology and entrepreneurship. The district will aim to foster advancing precision technology, personalized medicine and bio-tech, while offering comprehensive education and talent development opportunities. ![]()
At its core will be a 220,000 square foot Life Science Innovation Building. The first-of-its-kind in the country and incorporating the world’s most advanced and comprehensive theranostics platform and treatment center, this groundbreaking research and outpatient facility will pioneer new medical treatment methods from BAMF Health.
https://bedrockdetroit.com/press-releases/bedrock-unveils-plans-for-a-technology-entrepreneurship-and-life-sciences-district-in-the-heart-of-downtown-detroit/
At its core will be a 220,000 square foot Life Science Innovation Building. The first-of-its-kind in the country and incorporating the world’s most advanced and comprehensive theranostics platform and treatment center, this groundbreaking research and outpatient facility will pioneer new medical treatment methods from BAMF Health.
https://bedrockdetroit.com/press-releases/bedrock-unveils-plans-for-a-technology-entrepreneurship-and-life-sciences-district-in-the-heart-of-downtown-detroit/
What's the New Skyscraper Being Built in Detroit? Hudson's Detroit to Open This Year
https://www.roketaindustries.com/detroit-architecture-repository/2025/2/4/whats-the-new-skyscraper-being-built-in-detroit-hudsons-detroit-to-open-this-year
https://www.roketaindustries.com/detroit-architecture-repository/2025/2/4/whats-the-new-skyscraper-being-built-in-detroit-hudsons-detroit-to-open-this-year
DETROIT! OH YA!
https://imgur.com/a/rULMluE
https://imgur.com/a/rULMluE





