It's an unfortunate guarantee that things like this will happen, and authorities will insist a few bad cops don't spoil the bunch, but a few opportunistic protesters prove that the whole concept of social justice is flawed, never mind the cognitive dissonance.chaifetz10 wrote:Even with video proof showing that the story doesn't match up to the claim (which has changed a few times as the video evidence was released btw), there are people who STILL claim it happened?
I'm all for BLM, but events like this erode away at base message and support.
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February crime report is out and again shows things going in the right direction
http://www.slmpd.org/crimestats/CRM0013-BY_201602.pdf
Again not where we need to be but certainly the "spike" has ended and we've been going down the past five or six months compared to prior year month-to-month. But last April through August was an extremely murdery period so that should be the tell of whether we're really putting that depressing spike era behind us.... hopefully we won't go all bang-bang during the same period again.
http://www.slmpd.org/crimestats/CRM0013-BY_201602.pdf
Again not where we need to be but certainly the "spike" has ended and we've been going down the past five or six months compared to prior year month-to-month. But last April through August was an extremely murdery period so that should be the tell of whether we're really putting that depressing spike era behind us.... hopefully we won't go all bang-bang during the same period again.
They strike again. Was looking at an apartment at this intersection in CWE, maybe not anymore.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/teen-mob ... s/64012040
http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/police-g ... d/75331368
http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/teen-mob ... s/64012040
http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/police-g ... d/75331368
^Wow that video of all those kids running around on Old Post Office plaza is really powerful. That's exactly what everyone watching the 10 o'clock news is going to remember when they think about downtown. Where are they coming from?
Meh, it's the urban equivalent of mailbox bashing or egging. Teenagers do stupid stuff everywhere.
Edit: Point being not to excuse it, but just saying that it looks worse being a mob than it really is when one thinks about it. The kids need discipline, but I could've used that discipline too when I was a teenager as I did some stupid stuff as well. Hopefully they have the structure at their homes to give it to them.
Edit: Point being not to excuse it, but just saying that it looks worse being a mob than it really is when one thinks about it. The kids need discipline, but I could've used that discipline too when I was a teenager as I did some stupid stuff as well. Hopefully they have the structure at their homes to give it to them.
I agree and disagree. I agree there's not much more the city can do, this is a parenting issue. But this isn't teenagers pulling pranks, this is assault, and it seems like it might be enough to convince the victims to move. If eggs were being thrown I'd agree, but this is theft and assault, serious crimes.shimmy wrote:Meh, it's the urban equivalent of mailbox bashing or egging. Teenagers do stupid stuff everywhere.
Edit: Point being not to excuse it, but just saying that it looks worse being a mob than it really is when one thinks about it. The kids need discipline, but I could've used that discipline too when I was a teenager as I did some stupid stuff as well. Hopefully they have the structure at their homes to give it to them.
Very true. I should've read more closely. I was referring to the throwing furniture part.addxb2 wrote:I agree and disagree. I agree there's not much more the city can do, this is a parenting issue. But this isn't teenagers pulling pranks, this is assault, and it seems like it might be enough to convince the victims to move. If eggs were being thrown I'd agree, but this is theft and assault, serious crimes.shimmy wrote:Meh, it's the urban equivalent of mailbox bashing or egging. Teenagers do stupid stuff everywhere.
Edit: Point being not to excuse it, but just saying that it looks worse being a mob than it really is when one thinks about it. The kids need discipline, but I could've used that discipline too when I was a teenager as I did some stupid stuff as well. Hopefully they have the structure at their homes to give it to them.
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There's a clear link between factors like a parent's job stability, and their ability to parent. So there might be a little the city can do.addxb2 wrote:I agree and disagree. I agree there's not much more the city can do, this is a parenting issue. But this isn't teenagers pulling pranks, this is assault, and it seems like it might be enough to convince the victims to move. If eggs were being thrown I'd agree, but this is theft and assault, serious crimes.shimmy wrote:Meh, it's the urban equivalent of mailbox bashing or egging. Teenagers do stupid stuff everywhere.
Edit: Point being not to excuse it, but just saying that it looks worse being a mob than it really is when one thinks about it. The kids need discipline, but I could've used that discipline too when I was a teenager as I did some stupid stuff as well. Hopefully they have the structure at their homes to give it to them.
Anyone know how to keep track of progress with "comprehensive plan" by Alderman French? I was hopeful, but I haven't heard any news on police or job centers. Im still holding faith that this wasn't just a publicity stunt.
My guess is the "comprehensive plan" died when Stan Kroenke stabbed us in the back, twisted the knife and headed west.addxb2 wrote:Anyone know how to keep track of progress with "comprehensive plan" by Alderman French? I was hopeful, but I haven't heard any news on police or job centers. Im still holding faith that this wasn't just a publicity stunt.
Coming to that realization.dweebe wrote:Probably the same place you can get updates on the ongoing construction of new home of the St. Louis Rams, National Rent-a-Car Field.addxb2 wrote:Anyone know how to keep track of progress with "comprehensive plan" by Alderman French? I was hopeful, but I haven't heard any news on police or job centers. Im still holding faith that this wasn't just a publicity stunt.
A quick scan of Alderman Frenchs tweets show he has turned his attention to campaigning. In fact, I can't find a single recent tweet regarding St. Louis crime or policy.
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^He's tweeted about Hillary vs STL issues at a 36:1 ratio the last several weeks.
Which I know isn't a fair way to judge someone's work. I'm sure he's doing good work at city hall. But a few moths back his Twitter was used to discuss racial or socioeconomic issues facing his residents and the city/region. He held other leader's projects hostage to complete the comprehensive plan, then Hillary writes him a check and he's gone.andrewarkills wrote:^He's tweeted about Hillary vs STL issues at a 36:1 ratio the last several weeks.
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I know it won't happen, but that would be a great message to use against him if anyone else wanted to challenge his seat. (Wont happen, I know).
I'm about this close to unfollowing French on Twitter because it's just a constant Hillary campaign feed.addxb2 wrote:Which I know isn't a fair way to judge someone's work. I'm sure he's doing good work at city hall. But a few moths back his Twitter was used to discuss racial or socioeconomic issues facing his residents and the city/region. He held other leader's projects hostage to complete the comprehensive plan, then Hillary writes him a check and he's gone.andrewarkills wrote:^He's tweeted about Hillary vs STL issues at a 36:1 ratio the last several weeks.
I unfollowed that bull weeks ago. Buy out.dweebe wrote:I'm about this close to unfollowing French on Twitter because it's just a constant Hillary campaign feed.addxb2 wrote:Which I know isn't a fair way to judge someone's work. I'm sure he's doing good work at city hall. But a few moths back his Twitter was used to discuss racial or socioeconomic issues facing his residents and the city/region. He held other leader's projects hostage to complete the comprehensive plan, then Hillary writes him a check and he's gone.andrewarkills wrote:^He's tweeted about Hillary vs STL issues at a 36:1 ratio the last several weeks.
I also stopped weeks ago. He's worse than any other elected I follow in supporting their candidate. He'd probably be just as effective in supporting his preferred candidate with 1/10 the tweets.
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Good to know I'm not alone. Antonio does seem unnaturally annoying about the Hillary thing. I wouldn't go so far as to claim he has obviously been bribed, but there's got to be some kind of conflict of interest going on there. He kind of used unrest in Ferguson for his own advancement in a similarly awkward way, and an appointment to a presidential taskforce of some kind would be a logical next step. Antonio is still one of the most focused leaders in town on issues of public safety and neighborhood schools. If I lived in his ward, I'd try to keep him in office.
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Latest news on the crime front...
Apparently the grandson of one of the owners of Sweetie Pie's was murdered in North St. Louis.
Re. French, he's got an official position with the Clinton campaign. He's been appointed the lead communications rep for the state of Missouri, or something like that. It's a paid gig, for sure. And thus explains the flood of pro-Hillary tweets.
Apparently the grandson of one of the owners of Sweetie Pie's was murdered in North St. Louis.
Re. French, he's got an official position with the Clinton campaign. He's been appointed the lead communications rep for the state of Missouri, or something like that. It's a paid gig, for sure. And thus explains the flood of pro-Hillary tweets.
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I guess people missed the part few weeks ago where he was announced to lead her city campaign or be one of the leaders.
Not really surprising that French, who is a part of the Clinton campaign, would ramp up his social media support in the lead up to the Missouri primary, which really was a squeaker last night. Who knows, maybe he made the difference in putting Clinton over the top in the City and North County.
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http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... f-missouri
St. Louis notched the highest spot on the list, and two suburbs, Wellston and Northwoods, also made the top five. Our big-city neighbor to the west wasn't even close: Kansas City was No. 5, and its metro area scored its only other spot on the list at No. 10, which went to the suburb of Grandview. The bootheel, it turns out, is much more dangerous.
A bit about the methodology: The study looked at both the total number of murders in any given city and the number as adjusted for population. According to the authors, "We felt as if a small place with 2,500 people and two murders makes it a lot more dangerous than a city of 25,000 people with one murder."
For anyone who wants to argue that the city/county split artificially inflated St. Louis' homicide totals, keep in mind it could have been even worse. The study surveys a time before the homicide rate spiked, in 2015. Expect an equally grim conclusion for 2015.
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KC metro is much more dangerous then STL...heck even Nashville is in Violent Crime
http://www.ewgateway.org/pdffiles/libra ... -Crime.pdf
http://www.ewgateway.org/pdffiles/libra ... -Crime.pdf
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The local media know that EVERY METRO area ranking shows St. Louis is safer than KC, Nashville, San Antonio, OKC, etc., but they love to promote rankings that parse out high crime portions of the metro and rank those against suburbs of other metros. If our metro area is safer, isn't it likely that core areas, inner suburbs, and outer suburbs are also safer than similar areas of these higher metro areas? If our core is way more violent than the cores of these cities, then our suburbs would have to be way way safer to bring our average down for our lower ranking. Or else -- the rankers failed to normalize out a major factor contaminating the one they purport to be ranking -- crime danger. And that factor of course is wildly varying political boundaries.dbInSouthCity wrote:KC metro is much more dangerous then STL...heck even Nashville is in Violent Crime
http://www.ewgateway.org/pdffiles/libra ... -Crime.pdf
Here's another metro ranking that also show St. Louis Metro is safer than most:
http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2013/20 ... oHigh).pdf