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PostMar 01, 2016#5976

What's wrong with switching things up to keep our name out of the papers and protect our reputation while we work to improve the

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PostMar 01, 2016#5977

quincunx wrote:Can you make a bar graph with monthly numbers from last few years next to each other?
Is there an easy way to upload graphs as images here?

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PostMar 01, 2016#5978

Don't think so.

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PostMar 01, 2016#5979

quincunx wrote:Can you make a bar graph with monthly numbers from last few years next to each other?
Here is a table I put together... columns are years 2011-2016:


January 2 11 15 14 16 15
February 12 6 5 5 7 4
March 11 6 7 14 12
April 10 10 11 3 20
May 16 12 8 8 15
June 18 13 11 6 22
July 10 12 10 13 20
August 9 11 11 14 24
September 8 8 9 16 17
October 7 9 14 20 15
November 7 6 8 17 12
December 3 9 19 21 8

You can see there was a big spike starting in the summer of 2014 and continued through most of 2015 before appearing to abate as the year drew to a close. We'll need to see if numbers remain below 10-15 for a few months to see if we have returned to "normal".

Greg

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PostMar 01, 2016#5981

^^ while the big spike began in summer '14, the uptick happened the summer before.... first half of '13 we were 15% below the year before and on track for just 99 for the entire year but then we wound up with a 6% increase for the year.

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PostMar 02, 2016#5983

I plotted the 62 points in order here and added a linear trend line (green).


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PostMar 02, 2016#5984

^Nice graph. Given that time frame, does an upward trend mirror the increase in heroin usage/sales, i.e.: increased violence tied to increased drug-market competition?

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PostMar 02, 2016#5985

I don't know but that's a good question beyond the scope of the data presented in the prior post, but if the use of, sale of, or increased competition within the market for heroin is directly correlated to an increase in violence, then I would think an increase in any of those would therefore be accompanied by an increase in violence.

Has there been an increase in hard drugs in St. Louis over the last several years? This would suggest that nationally there has not been (at least for 2011-2014):

secondary source: http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Crime#Research

Page 4 of this 20-plus year old report from the Bureau of Justice Statistics is particularly germane to your question:
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/DRRC.PDF

One thing for sure: If your heroin dealer is drunk, he's more likely to murder you.

Cheers!

PostMar 03, 2016#5986

And this just in from my local bank branch at Bayless & I55.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/police-l ... n/66384792

The robber (pictured in article) used a pink and black handgun (also pictured).

This is a very nice bank and bank branch. I have been very pleased with them and I hope they catch this guy quickly. I've personally conducted business with the employees pictured and I know it must have been a terrifying experience.

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PostMar 03, 2016#5987

KtheK,

I'm not sure how much drug use may be in the past few years, but I think heroin use is a huge problem.... one of the news outlets recently reported how many people were killed in STL County by overdosing in the past few years and it was an astonishing number. So astonishing I forgot what it was, but it was yuuuuge.

PostMar 03, 2016#5988

Here is the article on heroin deaths... although cocaine deaths are down in recent years.

http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/heal ... da935.html

The report highlights the rise from 88 deaths involving heroin in 2013 to 110 deaths in 2014. There were 99 heroin deaths through the third week of December 2015, according to the county medical examiner. That number could rise as autopsies are completed.

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PostMar 03, 2016#5989

I'm just a po' schmo of a dude livin' in the Greater River Des Peres Metroplitin. Even if this sumbitch got all of my money he's gonna wish he has one mo' bullit left in that girlie gun of his for his left temple if I see him out today, or Injun Joe didn't live in a cave outside of Hannibal.

hic

About the rise in heroin related deaths in the county though, maybe we can speculate that this switch from cocaine back to heroin being in favor has lead to an increase in murders amongst participants in the black market. It sounds plausible at least.

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PostMar 04, 2016#5990

If this doesn't get a mention in the Crime Thread then URBANSTL is no longer a viable website.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... b7e62.html

Crazy this happened because a few weeks ago I was thinking about the unintended consequences of police body and car cameras and the proliferation of cameras in general.

It just might put the career SJWs out of work.

Of course, you can still spread lies on social media and have 100 people show up at Police Headquarters for a protest party. But that's a different subject altogether.

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PostMar 04, 2016#5991

Thanks for keeping us viable!

When the authorities lose the public's trust, it's hard to tell the difference between real and fake reports of police misbehavior. Cameras are intended to provide facts to restore our ability to determine fault or lack thereof in cases of police abuse. I'd say this would be working exactly as intended. But, it will only put social justice protesters out of work if it prevents police from abusing their power in the future.

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PostMar 04, 2016#5992

^^^ ktheK, yeah, I'd think any time there is a big disruption/change in the drug market you could see more violence as a result. Surely things are complex though. And our last homicide was a result of some shithead getting into an argument with the victim about getting a ride home from Soulard. What a senseless waste.

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PostMar 04, 2016#5993

roger wyoming II wrote:And our last homicide was a result of some shithead getting into an argument with the victim about getting a ride home from Soulard. What a senseless waste.
Hey, getting a ride home is important. You don't want to be walking around there late at night, it's dangerous!

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PostMar 04, 2016#5994

leeharveyawesome wrote:If this doesn't get a mention in the Crime Thread then URBANSTL is no longer a viable website.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... b7e62.html

Crazy this happened because a few weeks ago I was thinking about the unintended consequences of police body and car cameras and the proliferation of cameras in general.

It just might put the career SJWs out of work.

Of course, you can still spread lies on social media and have 100 people show up at Police Headquarters for a protest party. But that's a different subject altogether.
I'm glad you posted this. This gave me immense satisfaction reading this. The villification of the police has gone too far! I'm not sure why they lied about this in the first place when they let the person off when they should have been cited. Reminds me of the "Ham Sandwich" incident haha

PostMar 04, 2016#5995

leeharveyawesome wrote:If this doesn't get a mention in the Crime Thread then URBANSTL is no longer a viable website.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... b7e62.html

Crazy this happened because a few weeks ago I was thinking about the unintended consequences of police body and car cameras and the proliferation of cameras in general.

It just might put the career SJWs out of work.

Of course, you can still spread lies on social media and have 100 people show up at Police Headquarters for a protest party. But that's a different subject altogether.
I'm glad you posted this. This gave me immense satisfaction reading this. The villification of the police has gone too far! I'm not sure why they lied about this in the first place when they let the person off when they should have been cited. Reminds me of the "Ham Sandwich" incident haha

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PostMar 04, 2016#5996

That story is incredible. Plates that didn't match the car. No tickets were issued. No guns were pointed, but this SJW couldn't help herself and had to be a part of the narrative. I don't doubt that there are some crooked cops, but this is beyond amazing. :lol:

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PostMar 04, 2016#5997

Just shows how people are quick to protest the police. Dose any one get the purpose of this or have any ideas?

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PostMar 04, 2016#5998

Even with video proof showing that the story doesn't match up to the claim (which has changed a few times as the video evidence was released btw), there are people who STILL claim it happened?

I'm all for BLM, but events like this erode away at base message and support.

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PostMar 04, 2016#5999

MarkHaversham wrote:
roger wyoming II wrote:And our last homicide was a result of some shithead getting into an argument with the victim about getting a ride home from Soulard. What a senseless waste.
Hey, getting a ride home is important. You don't want to be walking around there late at night, it's dangerous!
You never know when a Soulard resident on a golf cart will run you over.

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PostMar 04, 2016#6000

^ Soulard is like Mad Max but with golf carts!

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