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i,Iive,to,draw wrote:apparently St louis is not the only city with a crime problem , Shoot even one of the most gentrified cities in the country is having huge crime Problem a 20% increase.

http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-m ... story.html

Do people on this forum think St Louis is only city in the USA with problems???

San Francisco also only has had 14 homicides, compared to St Louis' 100+. But, St Louis does have more problems than most.

EDIT: some additional murder rates- Chicago 377, Detroit 316, New Orleans 94, Milwaukee 81, Minneapolis 14. St Louis as of last night had 136, which obviously will rise.

edit 2: previously had crime rate instead of murder.

I don't think crime is out of control in st. Louis over all crime is down is almost all categories. Yes we have a homicide problem but as a whole we do not really have a crime problem. St. Louis also fell harder then most cities and it will take a while for it to rebound but things are and will get better overall.

Chalupas54 wrote:

i,Iive,to,draw wrote:apparently St louis is not the only city with a crime problem , Shoot even one of the most gentrified cities in the country is having huge crime Problem a 20% increase.

http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-m ... story.html

Do people on this forum think St Louis is only city in the USA with problems???

San Francisco also only has had 14 homicides, compared to St Louis' 100+. But, St Louis does have more problems than most.

EDIT: some additional murder rates- Chicago 377, Detroit 316, New Orleans 94, Milwaukee 81, Minneapolis 14. St Louis as of last night had 136, which obviously will rise.



edit 2: previously had crime rate instead of murder.

What Im trying to say is Rising Homicide seems to be happening in many cities not just here.

^ I think in any given year some cities do increase -- I think Indy & Cleveland are two Midwestern cities that are ahead of last year -- but the overall national trend continues to be a drop. Also, what's so concerning is our sharp increase.... it won't be fun next year if we claim the title of Nation's Murder Capital; it'll be close.

update: new homicide numbers are out and we have had 138 as of Dec. 1 compared to 102 through the same time last year. That is an 35% increase. Morbid good news is that last December was a brutal month so we may not slip further as we end the year. (Last January was also particularly deadly, fwiw, so the thought that such crimes slip in cold weather doesn't seem to hold.)

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/12/03/ ... -the-city/

100 more cops would cost 5 million The city should try to find 10 or 15 million to spend for 200 or 300 more cops

^ do $50,000 per officer times 1.40...= $70,000, that's the true cost with benefits, pension ect.

there are pages and pages of 20K in OT in the police dept...how about eliminating OT since its 1.5x regular pay. First 2 pages had 1.5-1.8Million in OT Pay , enough for 25 new officers

^^^^^ Just noticed this from the article truedope linked to....

Aldermanic President Lewis Reed says with the theft of his own car used in a smash-and-grab store robbery, downtown muggings, soaring murders and the Bevo Mill area hammer killing, “you never heard of any of this type of stuff, these types of things. You know, we’re at a very critical point.”

c'mon, Mr. President! Yes, the recent rise in crime in disturbing but let's get a proper perspective. The history of Saint Louis is one of violence and we've been hearing about this type of stuff for years.

roger wyoming II wrote:^^^^^ Just noticed this from the article truedope linked to....

Aldermanic President Lewis Reed says with the theft of his own car used in a smash-and-grab store robbery, downtown muggings, soaring murders and the Bevo Mill area hammer killing, “you never heard of any of this type of stuff, these types of things. You know, we’re at a very critical point.”

c'mon, Mr. President! Yes, the recent rise in crime in disturbing but let's get a proper perspective. The history of Saint Louis is one of violence and we've been hearing about this type of stuff for years.

I think maybe when you have YOUR car stolen all of a sudden it seems like things are a lot more crime-y. Is it a critical point? For sure, but this rate of crime is, well, pretty normal for a lot of years so maybe I don't quite understand the newly discovered urgency unless to cast a spotlight on Ferguson.

Also, owning a hammer is very lightly regulated. We're all *****. There's like a million hammers out there. No wait, people kill people not hammers so maybe we'll all be okay. *head explodes*

Apparently they found a body in River Des Peres near Landsdowne. I walk over the bridge there every day.

http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/284763041.html?can=n

Happen in south county Wound not be surprised if St. Louis county Had higher number murders too. The same in st. Clare county in IL

Burglaries are way down in Skinker-DeBaliviere. Guess I'm just lucky!

With in the last 24 hours in the St Louis area, 2 people were murdered, 10 were shot, one person bludgeoned with a baseball bat. These last few weeks have been quite bloody...

Wow. Death toll in the last 24 hours is up to 5..pitiful.

2 were a murder-suicide at the corner of Gustine/Chippewa, those apartments are very run down and very shady.

^ these idiots have no idea what they are getting themselves into with Bosnians...this will be messy if they keep targeting them