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^What is the argument for releasing the name?...

I get the argument against. People will now know the appropriate address to send their death threats to. Protesters can go harass him at home, vandalize his property, hack his computers etc. Remember he has not yet been charged with a crime or improper conduct despite popular sentiment to the contrary.

Also i think its too easy to claim incompetence. I understand the reasons why they made each change. Ferguson almost immediately turned the investigation over to the county, the riots happened Sunday and they turned over command and control to the county as well, the situation continued to spiral and the county requested help from the FBI, state leadership got involved by Tuesday and it went national by Thurday. They have probably been as responsive as any law enforcement agency could be to the changing environment where you have to maintain clear command and control.

I'm actually proud of the speed and adaptability at the various levels of leadership.

There's going to be a lot of trying times in the next few weeks, but I sure am glad Captain Johnson is here. I think it would be a good idea for Ferguson Council to at least temporarily relieve their chief.... I don't think its his intent, but its almost as if he is ham-handedly trying to incite riot.

roger wyoming II wrote:There's going to be a lot of trying times in the next few weeks, but I sure am glad Captain Johnson is here. I think it would be a good idea for Ferguson Council to at least temporarily relieve their chief.... I don't think its his intent, but its almost as if he is ham-handedly trying to incite riot.

I'm about 99% sure the Ferguson chief is trying to stir sh*t up by releasing the info when he did and not telling Captain Johnson or anyone else it was coming.

^ COME ON! A couple hours ago people were crying foul when the police didn't want to release the police report.

Ferguson suppose to release the cops name today finally!!!!

Did no one stop to think that aside from the arresting officers name it might also include the reason he detained them. In fact it might even include the officers account of what happened. And in fact Micheal Browns's friend admitted to being part of the robbery and there was video evidence to boot. OMG lets riot because they did what we have been crying about for days and we didn't like what was in it. STUPID!

It's like he is tryingb to start another riot.

The officers account may be in dispute as the friend contends and it deserves a full and comprehensive investigation, and guilty parties should be held accountable. That's why you remain calm and wait for all the facts.

roger wyoming II wrote:^^ moorlander, Antonio French has a link to an eyewitness account that basically tells of Michael getting "rolos" at Ferguson Market and then basically getting murdered.


Seems consistent with the other accounts out there from alleged eyewitnesses but the difference is this guy definitely has some greater knowledge of Michael's presence at the market.... not quite sure if the guy is saying he stole the "rolos" or not but it really doesn't matter. The only thing that does is whether the basic account of the killing is confirmed. Worth watching.

After watching the video surveillance, it very well could be that the guy giving his raw account on youtube linked above by Antonio French was the third male seen in the video. Again the youtube is worth watching for anyone following this whole tragedy closely.... AP is trying to get a hold of him according to a youtube comment.

moorlander wrote:Video from the scene

Anguishing. NYT also reports a resident came out right away saying she was a nurse and pleading to be able to do CPR. Denied.

^ I would agree if it were the National Guard, but the distinction is that the Missouri State Highway Patrol has wide authority over policing matters; even prior to Captain Johnson's appointment of command it was already involved along with Saint Louis County, Saint Louis City County, Saint Charles County and dozens of municipalities in mutual aid of incorporated Ferguson. (And MSHP has nothing to do with the police investigation other than liking to be kept in the loop if any potentially inflammatory info is going to be released.) There may be some legal issues involved on precise MSHP authority but I do see that as something that can be sorted out later.... I think what is most important is having clear line of authority and tactics that are designed to restore both public trust and order and I think putting Captain Johnson and the MSHP in control was a good and necessary step. Having said that, it was an extraordinary order to sideline the County command and this just one aspect in a huge political drama that could have some pretty large ramifications for the future of the County and region.

I also agree that these events will be unfolding for a long time to come, especially if this goes to trial.... we have to be prepared for some trying times ahead and hope that justice and people with good will prevail.