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Does anyone have anymore info on the one downtown other than what was in the post?

^Did you read the story?

Not that it isn't important or telling, but it sounded as though the guy got hit with a random ricochet that glanced off his shin or something. Said he drove to the hospital later that morning/afternoon to report it.

Once again, not that this isn't an issue, but it wasn't exactly like he was shot in the chest. Very misleading headline (borderline irresponsible.) It isn't like the post is hurting for fear mongering stories about the city either, unfortunately.

Anyway.

^Read the comments of the story. It doesn't matter. There shouldn't be shootings downtown. PERIOD. Sweeping it under the rug or making excuses for it will only enable it.

That's the problem. The attitude in a lot of up-and-coming or recently stabilized neighborhoods is that "it shouldn't happen" here. When it does happen, the blame goes on the police, like criminals call the police to warn them when something is going to happen . Just a couple weeks ago, there was a shooting in a hallway of Merchandise Mart. When residents of the building were questioned, nobody heard a thing. Groupthink in this city is out of control.

If you read my post I clearly said this isn't an unimportant instance.

However, a ricochet fragment grazing the shin of someone is completely different from "Man shot in downtown StL."

Bullets can fly a long way. Hell, for all we know the actual shot could have been fired in Chesterfield. Sensationalist and irresponsible reporting like this headline contribute to the regional and national perception of the city in a negative light. I don't know about you, but I don't appreciate that.

urbz wrote:That's the problem. The attitude in a lot of up-and-coming or recently stabilized neighborhoods is that "it shouldn't happen" here. When it does happen, the blame goes on the police, like criminals call the police to warn them when something is going to happen . Just a couple weeks ago, there was a shooting in a hallway of Merchandise Mart. When residents of the building were questioned, nobody heard a thing. Groupthink in this city is out of control.

How did that not make the news?

newstl2020, I doubt that it was a stray from another neighborhood. And if it was then we need to address the issues in that neighborhood. It should not be ignored.

I think the post has the day wrong on the downtown shooting. I live nearby and there were gun shots on Sunday morning @ 3 am, not Monday morning. At least I hope so, other wise that means there were gun shots two nights in a row and that I slept through it.

I heard the days may have been mixed up as well. Do you know any other info?

If anyone is concerned please contact the Aldermen, the bike patrol unit, and the Downtown Partnership. It's always good to speak up and be heard in order to prevent it from happening again. There is no reason to stand for this behavior.

PM me if you need contact info.

Alex Ihnen wrote:

ttricamo wrote:

Alex Ihnen wrote:Those living in neighborhoods with gun violence know that there are too many guns on the street and that they're too easily purchased, legally. It's the Constitution-thumpers who live in safe areas that rant about how gun laws aren't needed.

Says the Claytonite to the guy that lives in Florissant. I think we might be in bizarro world today!

I don't live in Clayton, but whatever. I lived in Forest Park Southeast for more than five years, the Central West End before that, and now U-City.

Interesting that the guy who runs nextSTL (formerly urbanSTL) doesn't live in the city. Kinda reminds me of the salesmen that prefers to use the competitor's product.

^Kind of semantics, don't you think?

Now if Alex was out in "The Streets of St. Charles"...

You don't have to live in the city to make a huge impact (although of course we would prefer everyone did).

terence d wrote:

Alex Ihnen wrote: I don't live in Clayton, but whatever. I lived in Forest Park Southeast for more than five years, the Central West End before that, and now U-City.

Interesting that the guy who runs nextSTL (formerly urbanSTL) doesn't live in the city. Kinda reminds me of the salesmen that prefers to use the competitor's product.

FWIW, I help run nextSTL and live downtown. And I don't know about you, but I think of University City in urbanist terms. Maybe if Alex lived in Eureka it'd be a bit different. Anyway, we're all here because we wish to make a positive improvement in the city and region. Most of us, anyway.

I don't know that this has much to do with crime, so perhaps this thread within a thread will die down. If you'd like, create a new thread to discuss it in.

^Absolutely. I recently moved to U City myself, and I find my daily commute to/from Grand Center now has a much more "urbanist" feeling than my previous drive to/from St. Louis Hills.

In any other city, the U City area would have been annexed by "the city" a long time ago. Invisable boundary lines do not define an urban area.

Article on new policing strategies along Washington Ave. in the article there is a link you can submit suggestions and feedback. I would encourage downtowners to provide feedback.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... ml?ana=twt

downtown2007 wrote:Article on new policing strategies along Washington Ave. in the article there is a link you can submit suggestions and feedback. I would encourage downtowners to provide feedback.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... ml?ana=twt

Alex, don't even think of submitting feedback. I sh*t you not.

I suggested the following:

Hi there,
One suggestion I have is to enforce the noise nuisance policy in regards to the vehicles that drive down wash ave continuously with their subwoofers blazing till 3am. Helps every one out and adds money to the department by fining these people. Pus it would make the street a lot more friendly.

Same thing goes to the motorcycles that rev their engines till 3am. That is probably how things get started by people trying to show each other off with their motorcycles or subwoofers.

Thanks for being proactive!

zink wrote:I suggested the following:

Hi there,
One suggestion I have is to enforce the noise nuisance policy in regards to the vehicles that drive down wash ave continuously with their subwoofers blazing till 3am. Helps every one out and adds money to the department by fining these people. Pus it would make the street a lot more friendly.

Same thing goes to the motorcycles that rev their engines till 3am. That is probably how things get started by people trying to show each other off with their motorcycles or subwoofers.

Thanks for being proactive!

Living here, I agree. And +1 for pus.

^ Looks like that email from the business journal isn't even correct! So good news,i get to correct my spelling mistake. ... if i ever find the correct email.