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PostApr 21, 2011#1726

There should be ZERO tolerance for "knockout".

Anyone caught participating needs to play a game called "lockup"--forever!

And for these four "pass away" after the needle fills their veins with anti-freeze at Potosi.

PostApr 21, 2011#1727

As far as the perception that these kinds of senseless crimes occur only in the city--well I don't know what to tell people who think that.

I seem to recall last year a young girl who was murdered by a teenage girl in some small town outside Jefferson City. An equally brutal and senseless crime against an innocent and defenseless human being.

The numbness and disrespect for life some young people have knows no municipal boundaries and has existed in some form or another for eons.

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PostApr 21, 2011#1728

I read this commentary in response to what David Simon, creator of "The Wire," said about our inner cities today in an interview with Bill Moyers. What do people think?

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PostApr 21, 2011#1729

Talk about white guilt.

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PostApr 21, 2011#1730

I thought it was silly. But the David Simon interview was absolutely fantastic.

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PostApr 21, 2011#1731

Sometime soon, I hope one of these games of "knockout" are finished when the target decides to go "stabby". That's a winner.

Focus: Some quick commentary on Doug’s David Simon links…

Author of that blog: Self-righteous, privileged, and indignant.

Just look at her bio:
Callie Neylan is an assistant design professor at the University of Maryland in Baltimore. Her research interests include designing for the disabled, wearable computing, and the intersection of interaction design and the urban space. She is passionate about design in all its disciplines; technology; photography; fixed-gear bicycles; skiing; good, slow food; Weimaraners; and artisanal espresso.
Artisanal espresso? That’s one of her self-described "passions"? Are you farking kidding me?

In contrast, this gal would make Gwenyth Paltrow look like Ice Cube in 1988.

David Simon: Yeah, I’m a fan. Big time.

I generally agree with how he describes the forgotten urban underclasses and how they are marginalized by society at large. It's commonplace, passively institutionalized, isolated/isolating, and tolerated on a day-to-day basis.

Then again, one has to ask: Hasn’t this same sort of marginalization taken place for poor people since cities first sprung up? To some degree or another, could the plights of the poor in Rome be seen as comparable to those in the modern American city today? What strategies have been undertaken within these communities, historically, to increase one’s ways of life, whether by promoting these communities or leaving them?

One thing not mentioned in David Simon’s piece is the role of the independent charitable organization within these communities. Large numbers of churches work to help the urban poor, both from within and from outside these communities. The United Way has done so much for our City, and with donations and leadership from the largest corporations & institutions in the metro area. Just think of the influence of Big Brothers / Big Sisters on the lives of hundreds of young children in StL who sure could use an adult friend who can give guidance and support. I know a retired executive from a major company in StL who now works with incubators on the North Side, working to give guidance to entrepreneurs from within an area Simon describes; in deference to the blog author, this retired executive is white and lives in the suburbs, doing this only out of a desire to see people rise up from the power of their own work & inspiration, and making StL better with each new business.

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PostApr 21, 2011#1732

I thought the interview was interesting and I thought the blog was terrible.

Is it not true that David Simon is rich because of the "destitute" and "marginalized"? Did he not make money off of these people, or does it somehow not count because he "gets it"? Is he any different than anyone else?

And, I hate, hate, hate when people count others out. Framing people as "forgotten" and "underclass" is terribly debilitating and disrespectful. Those involved in the drug trade in North City have the opportunity to rise above "the game"; its the tougher choice but it is a choice.

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PostApr 22, 2011#1733

I think this knockout thing is what happened to me last summer. Luckily I didn't hit my head on anything (despite street lights and planters nearby) and those kids were a bit younger ~14-15 than the group that attacked Mr. Nguyen.
quincunx wrote:Well you're right about the walking alone part. I was assaulted by one of the bands of black teens right in front of the OCL building tonight not 100 feet from a bunch of patrons at Pi. I was heading east and they ran up from behind. I turned around but couldn't do much at that point. Three or four of them made contact. Luckily they missed my teeth and didn't go for my valuables. I guess they just wanted to hit someone. f***ing little bastards.

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PostApr 22, 2011#1734

Absolutely unbelievable.

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PostApr 22, 2011#1735

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... mode=story

Someone in the comments section used the term "alderclown". That's actually pretty creative.

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PostApr 23, 2011#1736

Hard to say what one might do under a "knockout" situation. As I've said before I've stumbled around in some so-called bad places from coast to coast. Odds are I'd take the opportunity to kill with my HANDS.

Or I might just take a beating and say "here's my cash". Hard to say.

But I'm really feelin the first option.

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PostApr 25, 2011#1737

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... f6878.html


Glad the suspects were killed and caught instead of getting away. I feel so bad for this officer's family, Easter Sunday will now remind them of waking up to the news of their son being killed. RIP Officer Hall.

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PostApr 30, 2011#1738

According to the Post an individual was shot in the hand after a botched robbery last night at Tucker and St Charles. Did anyone see or hear anything?

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PostMay 04, 2011#1739

STL88 wrote:http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... f6878.html


Glad the suspects were killed and caught instead of getting away. I feel so bad for this officer's family, Easter Sunday will now remind them of waking up to the news of their son being killed. RIP Officer Hall.
They're closing: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/m ... 0f31a.html

They were probably going to lose their liquor license anyhow.

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PostMay 04, 2011#1740

I wonder if they closed voluntarily or were forced to close. I also wonder how this effects another retail spot.

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PostMay 05, 2011#1741

the central scrutinizer wrote:
STL88 wrote:http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... f6878.html


Glad the suspects were killed and caught instead of getting away. I feel so bad for this officer's family, Easter Sunday will now remind them of waking up to the news of their son being killed. RIP Officer Hall.
They're closing: http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/m ... 0f31a.html

They were probably going to lose their liquor license anyhow.
Who's closing? Oh, I've got to click on the links.

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PostMay 11, 2011#1742

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 44ebf.html

Obviously this is disconcerting since it was essentially random.

But I'm glad to hear they are going to have a meeting tonight to talk about it. I'm sure that will help. :roll:

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PostMay 22, 2011#1743

We had both of our cars broken into last night - driver side window on both. Nothing taken from either. bullsh*t. That's $650. Thanks a**holes. We have lived here for exactly three years and have had that happen, we've been broken into and robbed twice and had our air conditioners stolen. That's more than once a year. Not good. My 37-week pregnant wife isn't exactly feeling safe right now.

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PostMay 22, 2011#1744

jeff707 wrote:We had both of our cars broken into last night - driver side window on both. Nothing taken from either. bullsh*t. That's $650. Thanks a**holes. We have lived here for exactly three years and have had that happen, we've been broken into and robbed twice and had our air conditioners stolen. That's more than once a year. Not good. My 37-week pregnant wife isn't exactly feeling safe right now.
I'm really sorry to here about that, man. My wife was shaken every time we had a window broken or a stuff stolen out of the shed. Where abouts do you live in the city?

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PostMay 22, 2011#1745

It looks like they are in South Compton. Not really known as the best part of the city yet. So sorry to hear this though, I'm sure it's a very tense and unnerving situation.

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PostMay 22, 2011#1746

Compton Heights, actually. On Compton.

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PostMay 23, 2011#1747

kujay wrote:http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 44ebf.html

Obviously this is disconcerting since it was essentially random.

But I'm glad to hear they are going to have a meeting tonight to talk about it. I'm sure that will help. :roll:
Ok, here's another random murder of an innocent man that moved to the City AND he was circulation manager for St. Louis American! Not that any random criminal would even know what that is or means but this is truly terrible and just bad news. I've lived all over South City and still have a hankerin' to get a house there but I'm starting to think it's not really worth it. Enough of these occurences and a week in Asheville, NC could change of fellow's mind.

Is South City getting "better"? Yes and no. There's a culture war goin' on and the numbers are stacked against the "getting better" crowd, in my opinion. I'm kind of losing my enthusiasm for South City and it kinda feels good actually.
jeff707 wrote:Compton Heights, actually. On Compton.
I used to live on Compton.

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PostMay 23, 2011#1748

leeharveyawesome wrote:
Is South City getting "better"? Yes and no. There's a culture war goin' on and the numbers are stacked against the "getting better" crowd, in my opinion. I'm kind of losing my enthusiasm for South City and it kinda feels good actually.
Compton.
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Interesting take on the situation. What is the culture war? Where would you live if not in South City?

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PostMay 23, 2011#1749

jeff707 wrote:Compton Heights, actually. On Compton.
That's a good neighborhood. Have you tried speaking with your alderman and police officers?

I wanna know more on this culture war as well.

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PostMay 23, 2011#1750

ttricamo wrote:
leeharveyawesome wrote:
Is South City getting "better"? Yes and no. There's a culture war goin' on and the numbers are stacked against the "getting better" crowd, in my opinion. I'm kind of losing my enthusiasm for South City and it kinda feels good actually.
Compton.
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Interesting take on the situation. What is the culture war? Where would you live if not in South City?
The culture of violence and being a decent citizen and neighbor.

I'm probably overreacting. That's what I do. I understand that the occasional home invasion/muder is just part of life in the city.

If I'm in the St. Louis region long-term I'd prefer to be in South City but I'm not as excited about it as I used to be. Too many other cool places minus the issues.

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