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PostDec 07, 2009#1176

Around 9th and washington: I was halfway awake last night at 2:55am and pretty sure heard 4 loud gunshots followed a car getting away. Called 911 to report it. They picked up in under one ring. :)



Yea, so not sure what that could have been about...

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PostDec 08, 2009#1177

zink wrote:Around 9th and washington: I was halfway awake last night at 2:55am and pretty sure heard 4 loud gunshots followed a car getting away. Called 911 to report it. They picked up in under one ring. :)



Yea, so not sure what that could have been about...
There was disturbance that apparently led to a shooting between two people who live nowhere near downtown. It occurred around 19th and Locust.

PostDec 10, 2009#1178

I'm sure many of us have heard the following story. However, the quote that is in bold bothers me... I was curious on others opinions of what the young lady had to say...
Charges filed in St. Louis death caused by car fleeing police

By Patrick M. O'Connell

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

12/10/2009



ST. LOUIS — A 16-year-old boy was charged Wednesday with involuntary manslaughter in the death of a mother of four who was killed last week by a car trying to elude police.



The suspect, charged as a juvenile, also faces four counts of second-degree assault for the dead woman's four passengers, who survived with injuries.



Police said he was the driver of a Dodge Stratus that ran a stop sign, causing the wreck. They said he and his passenger ran from the scene. The passenger has been identified, police said, but there is no evidence to support a charge against him.



The incident started with an attempt to stop a speeder in Uplands Park, the village's attorney said Wednesday. He said officers had backed off before the collision at Martin Luther King Drive and Goodfellow Boulevard in St. Louis about 7 p.m. Dec. 3.



The lawyer, Doug Rudman, said two Uplands Park officers in one patrol car initially chased a car going 46 mph in a 30 mph zone, but had "stopped an active pursuit and were maintaining a safe distance" several blocks behind when the crash happened.



Lashanna Snipes, 34, was fatally injured. Her sister, son, daughter and another child relative were seriously hurt in the crash, police said. Officials said Snipes was driving when the fleeing car, going south on Goodfellow, hit her Pontiac Grand Am.



Snipes, of St. Louis, worked in medical services and was studying to be a registered nurse. In addition to her children, she is survived by her husband, Alex Snipes.



"We lost someone who meant so much to us," said her niece, Jasmein Jones. "She was just a beautiful person, outside and in."



In an interview Wednesday, Jones complained, "The (police) couldn't have been following protocol." She added, "It's ridiculous. They weren't doing what they were supposed to do. It's their mistake."



But Rudman said, "Preliminarily, it appears everything was done by the police appropriately."



He said the officers, whose names, ages and experience levels were not released, were on administrative leave, which is standard procedure, pending a review of their actions. Uplands Park is a community of about 460 people along Natural Bridge Road, a short distance west of St. Louis.



Rudman said that the officers had called off the pursuit and that the fleeing car left the roadway several times and ran five stoplights and four stop signs before the collision. The reasons for an initial pursuit were acceptable under department procedures, he said.



The lawyer said Snipes' death was "tragic, unfortunate and unacceptable."



He added, "Those who want to blame the police for doing an intervention forget the fact of why they had to do an intervention in the first place. Responsibility has to be borne by the individuals in the vehicle who tried to get away from the police."

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PostDec 10, 2009#1179

Desperate people looking for someone to blame. And sue.





I'm sure it must be incredibly difficult to decide when to pursue and when not to. I have seen first hand what a fleeing vehicle can do to an innocent bystander.

This scenario reminds me of what H L Mencken said: “For every problem there is a solution which is simple, clean and wrong.”





I think it's time law enforcement came up with new and innovative solutions. Shooting GPS sensors that stick to the chase car or blasting them with phosphorescent paint that makes it easy to pick them up or some other crazy idea that decreases the odds that innocent people get killed in chases.

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PostJan 19, 2010#1180

Interesting. I'm the last person to pull the race card, and I think all should be responsible for their actions. Blaming society has grown tired, and feeling sorry for criminals boils my blood.

Yet, I find it interesting that an article was posted about a South Grand Walgreen's being robbed, and the security camera photo is a 5'6 chubby white male.

It was posted at 11:43am, and oddly, there are only 7 comments. I've never seen this before.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/st-lou ... s-robbery/

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PostJan 19, 2010#1181

JuiceInDogtown wrote:Interesting. I'm the last person to pull the race card, and I think all should be responsible for their actions. Blaming society has grown tired, and feeling sorry for criminals boils my blood.

Yet, I find it interesting that an article was posted about a South Grand Walgreen's being robbed, and the security camera photo is a 5'6 chubby white male.

It was posted at 11:43am, and oddly, there are only 7 comments. I've never seen this before.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/st-lou ... s-robbery/
It seems there is a direct correlation between race and the number of comments.

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PostJan 19, 2010#1182

I've been waiting for the Forum to be back on line to post this little bit of good news:

The City reported 143 murders in 2009, down from 167 in 2008. That's a pretty nice 14% decline.

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PostJan 19, 2010#1183

Framer wrote:I've been waiting for the Forum to be back on line to post this little bit of good news:

The City reported 143 murders in 2009, down from 167 in 2008. That's a pretty nice 14% decline.
That's good, but it sounds like we're off to a bad start in 2010.

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PostJan 19, 2010#1184

Hello all...I've been waiting for the forum to come back so I can transition here from the so-so city-data forums.

I thought 2009 was "ok" as far as crime goes, but 2010 is off to a really bad start. We already have 11 homicides in 19 days, including a bold robbery/murder on Morganford in popular TGS. In addition there has already been a robbery and police standoff in my own, normally quiet neighborhood of Northampton. And a friend of mine was robbed at gunpoint in late December outside of Columbos in Dogtown.

I remain optimistic things will be better this year than last, but it's not looking good thus far.

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PostJan 20, 2010#1185

I'm now legally armed. Feels good.

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PostJan 20, 2010#1186

What happened on Morganford? I must have missed that one.

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PostJan 20, 2010#1187

Someone was killed in an attempted robbery at Morgan Ford and Oleatha. At least the a**holes were caught. One was a minor, and I hope they try him as an adult.

stltoday story

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PostJan 20, 2010#1188

brickandmortar wrote:Someone was killed in an attempted robbery at Morgan Ford and Oleatha. At least the a**holes were caught. One was a minor, and I hope they try him as an adult.

stltoday story
At least this was a few blocks south of the Morganford strip, which basically ends at Utah. The bridge/railroad tracks create quite a bit of separation.

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PostJan 20, 2010#1189

^That's correct it was farther down the strip closer to Chippewa. The P-D has a story today confirming the arrests of two teenagers for the crime.

Link to Story

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PostJan 22, 2010#1190

Overall crime in the City was down last year. Here's a link to a short story in STL Today (there was more info and stats in the print edition):

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/st-lou ... d-in-2009/

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PostJan 25, 2010#1191

I can't say I blame the homeowner much. Everybody has their breaking point. Shame for the burgler's family, though.

North St. Louis homeowner shoots, kills burglar
http://www.kmox.com/pages/6199704.php?c ... Id=5462083

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PostFeb 26, 2010#1192

The 17 year old who killed the woman in LaSalle Park last year has been certified to stand trial as an adult. I hope he and his buddy get what they deserve.http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/s ... 0/02/4532/

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PostMar 01, 2010#1193

^Best news I've heard in a long time!
What a way to start off my week. I'm in a better mood already! :D

PostMar 02, 2010#1194

Channel 4 aired a segment last night on home break-ins in the South Hampton neighborhood. It was the most informative segment on burglary I've ever watched!! :lol:

The gist of the segment was to keep your blinds closed if you have a flat screen and get to know your neighbors so you can spot people who look suspicious. Wow, that is crime prevention 101..... :roll:

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PostMar 02, 2010#1195

I think I heard on the morning show that there will be a 10am announcement today on a "get tough" crime prevention policy against car break-ins and property damage (nuisance crimes).

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PostMar 02, 2010#1196

The Soulard/Benton Park Messenger http://sbpmessenger.com/clients/sbpmess ... =91&mad=No
reports that crime dropped significantly in the month of Feb. in the area.

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PostMar 02, 2010#1197

^Apparently criminals don't like cold weather... :D

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PostMar 02, 2010#1198

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:^Apparently criminals don't like cold weather... :D
So does that mean spring will bring higher crime rates?

I don't care, I'm soooo ready for some sunny 70 degree days I'll put up with being mugged :)

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PostMar 02, 2010#1199

Moorlander wrote:I think I heard on the morning show that there will be a 10am announcement today on a "get tough" crime prevention policy against car break-ins and property damage (nuisance crimes).

Police to release new anti car break-in campaign

By Ryan Dean

KSDK -- This morning the City of St. Louis is unveiling a new anti-car break-in campaign.

The police chief, circuit attorney and mayor are scheduled to announce the new initiative.

We're told it is a two part campaign; it will promote aggressive law enforcement and public education.

Fourteen new billboards are going up around the city to remind people to park smart
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.as ... JTXtEAI%3D

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PostMar 09, 2010#1200

Just heard on the radio that numerous vehicles were broken into and one stolen last night on Washington St. I know this has become commmon, but last night must have been worse than normal to make the news. Anyone have any details?

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