What's wrong with the current choices or are you addressing the embarrassing Holiday Inn?ldai_phs wrote: ↑Sep 07, 2022A new convention HQ hotel is the next investment I would pick.RockChalkSTL wrote:Let's stop with the drama -- dome discussion should absolutely be fair game.
St. Louis isn't doing enough with this convention center expansion and we all know it. The dome's future is a giant question mark.
Would St. Louis get more out of renovating it or dozing it for expanded ballroom space and alternative uses?
The question of what is going to be the best investment for St. Louis is an important one, and it belongs in this thread.
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^Maybe they could build one on top of the ridiculous 1200 car garage instead of a restaurant?
No I wasn’t. Just a general statement after reading through multiple comments by multiple people. Not everything is about you.dweebe wrote: ↑Sep 07, 2022Yes you were.sc4mayor wrote: ↑Sep 07, 2022^ I wasn’t even talking to you. No need to take it so personally.
God forbid some of us come here for updates on the convention center project instead of a discussion about nonexistent Super Bowls and indoor stadium acoustics.
Going forward no more Dome talk at all: just convention center halls 1-5. The rules have been laid down by sc4mayor.
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What's not to love. The fact that the convention center is still built around a defunct garage. Now being built around an ugly Holiday Inn. Blocking another North south street. That it has a second entrance being built only two blocks from the current main entrance.
I totally understand why people hate the 11th hour swoop but they should have gone with Bob Clarks late entry concept and Built northward to the Bottle District. Just fundamentally a better concept IMHO and worth the redirect. I guess they could still do that for the next expansion...
I totally understand why people hate the 11th hour swoop but they should have gone with Bob Clarks late entry concept and Built northward to the Bottle District. Just fundamentally a better concept IMHO and worth the redirect. I guess they could still do that for the next expansion...
Also was reviewing the layout again and it seems like since they are converting one of the halls into a ball room aren't they still net zero on overall exhibition space...
I thought one of the big critiques of the current convention center was lack of available exhibition space to compete for big conventions.
I thought one of the big critiques of the current convention center was lack of available exhibition space to compete for big conventions.
We're not going to be a monster like Chicago, Atlanta, Vegas etc. But it is sad to see where St. Louis sits size-wise.STLEnginerd wrote: ↑Sep 07, 2022Also was reviewing the layout again and it seems like since they are converting one of the halls into a ball room aren't they still net zero on overall exhibition space...
I thought one of the big critiques of the current convention center was lack of available exhibition space to compete for big conventions.
https://tradeshowexecutive.com/wp-conte ... 015-08.pdf
I know demo was planned on the 7th street garage, but I didn’t know it had started. From Steve Patterson:
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Interesting, is that going to be the 10-story garage that they originally wanted to build between 10th street, 11th street and Lucas Ave, Convention Plaza or is this a different one? (for reference: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... b3951.html )
If only the roads downtown looked like they do in that rendering.jacob_rb_15 wrote: ↑Oct 11, 2022Interesting, is that going to be the 10-story garage that they originally wanted to build between 10th street, 11th street and Lucas Ave, Convention Plaza or is this a different one? (for reference: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/gov ... b3951.html )
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I thought it was going to be surface parking and land banked for future expansion of the convention center.
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/st-louis-convention-commission-buying-long-sought-seventh-street-garage/article_c35ebcc5-7015-504e-bd67-291302f4a712.html
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/st-louis-convention-commission-buying-long-sought-seventh-street-garage/article_c35ebcc5-7015-504e-bd67-291302f4a712.html
The action Wednesday was the first public indication that negotiations had resumed with the owners of the Seventh Street garage. CVC Director Kitty Ratcliffe told members of the city’s Municipal Finance Corp., the body largely run by Comptroller Darlene Green’s office that has been leading the project, that the garage site would likely become a surface lot in the short term but that owning the land would allow for future development.
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Top events brought 360,000 people to downtown with an financial impact of $238,600,000
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^There's at least one of those I could personally live without, as I think it's probably a scam praying on the week and vulnerable, but for the most part . . . rock on!
Why do you hate WWE?symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Oct 24, 2022^There's at least one of those I could personally live without, as I think it's probably a scam praying on the week and vulnerable, but for the most part . . . rock on!
Nice! I've got another one: "Praying" on the weak? "Praying"?
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Hey, I've worked WWE. They're fine. It's not my style of thing, but it's perfectly good theatre and the performers put their hearts into it. You definitely get what you pay for. But there are certain other shows where the talk backstage is definitely not what you would expect. Conversations about who usually wins the betting pool on what the night's take would be, for instance. (Generally the big man, the story went.) You hear the strangest things backstage. See and smell them too. And in the most unexpected shows. Dylan was all incense and violins. Annie was . . . what was it the old rock and roll roadie said of the dressing room bouquet? . . . Warm biscuits? I think that's what he called it. Smiled a lot. (Note: there were no minors anywhere near the chorus dressing rooms in question. Only minor in the show was Annie, and she had her own space upstairs with appropriate adult supervision. No children were harmed in the smoking of those biscuits.)
Small slip of the brain there. I meant preying, of course. Con artists prey on people. Bona fide preachers pray. Not sure why I would confuse those two things.
Any sort of MLM/Pyramid Scheme convention should be avoided at all costs, definitely a net negative impact for the region.