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Clayton Development Updates

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PostMar 03, 2008#1

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Local and national developers and businesses choose Clayton.



Clayton contiues to be the premier business location in the region.  It is the hub of the St. Louis metropolitan area, the seat for St. Louis County and is considered the area's second downtown. Before the addition of the Plaza in Clayton, the Merrill Lynch Centre and Shaw Park Plaza, Clayton's office vacancy rate had fallen to 2.9%. Even with the addition of nearly 1,000,000 square feet of new Super Class A office space, the City's vacancy rate remains among the lowest of the major metropolitan office markets. Confidence in the viability of the Clayton office market is substantiated by plans from businesses and developers to build new commercial and residential developments.



The real estate community believes that this is a testament to the strength of Clayton’s underlying fundamentals: its enviable location as the geographic center of metropolitan St. Louis, an abundance of on and off-site parking, its state-of-the-art telecommunications infrastructure, competitive lease rates, and unique and vibrant retail component. Commercial realtors recognize Clayton's intent to support quality, not quantity, in its process for approving developments. They say that Clayton is the region's most cosmopolitan area with an outstanding quality of life. In fact, "quality" has become Clayton’s trademark in every respect.



More New Developments

         

 

Recently completed



- In November 2006, Conrad Properties officially opened Maryland Walk, a 17-story condominium building and newest landmark on the downtown Clayton skyline. In addition to 101 condominiums on floors two through 17, the multi-faceted $75 million project includes 8,000 square feet of commercial space at street level. The development appeals to a cross-section of residents from various walks of life creating demographic diversity, which will in turn add to the vitality of downtown Clayton.





- In January 2008, Mark S. Mehlman Realty celebrating the opening of The Crescent, a nine story, $40,000,000 mixed-use development on the north side of Carondelet Plaza across from the Plaza in Clayton. The Crescent features 72 luxury condominium units, 25,797 square feet of ground level retail and 259 parking spaces. The building is designed to follow the curvature of Carondelet Plaza around the fountain and sculpture, Still Point, and is compatible with both the Plaza in Clayton and The Ritz-Carlton, St. Louis. In addition to the continuing the City's streetscape design, the project will include a 15' bronze sculpture by Gerard Tsutakawa.



Soon to be completed



- Scheduled to open Spring 2008, DeMun Pointe will ad 27 condominium units to Clayton's residential inventory.  The $13.9 million, 3 1/2 story project is being built by Opus Properties Development at 6447 Clayton Road.  It will offer 27 condominium units at a wide range of prices and 9,000 square feet of ground floor commercial space. DeMun Pointe is Clayton's first "green" mixed-use building. It is being built according to LEED standards (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) and will be Clayton's first LEED certified building.





Approved for construction



- The City has approved Orchard Development Group's proposal to build the Trianon, a mixed-use project at 7454 Forsyth adjacent to the Forsyth (MetroLink) Station and just east of the Ritz-Carlton. The $150 million development will include 300 condominiums with a variety of floor plans and price points.  Approximately 31,260 square feet of office space and 9,600 square feet of street-level retail space is also planned.  The project is unique because of its proximity to the MetroLink passenger station at Forsyth Boulevard and Forest Park Parkway.  The Trianon is designed as a Transit Oriented Development (TOD), which capitalizes on the development’s proximity to theMetroLink passenger station. The developer is able to market its affordable luxury units to a group of buyers who are interested taking advantage of the accessibility to MetroLink and its passenger stations.



Under review



- Mark S. Mehlman Realty has presented plans for the Carondelet Village.  The proposal for the mixed-use development includes approximately 110,000 square feet of retail space, a multi-screen movie theater/performing arts center which will be connected to a boutique hotel with 150 rooms, and 110,000 square feet of boutique office space. With the addition of a critical mass in retail and a 663 parking facility, the developer feels that the $128 million project will reestablish Clayton as a shopping destination. The proposed Village will offer Clayton residents the opportunity to stay in Clayton to shop, while drawing visitors from the entire region to shop and dine in Clayton.  At its Dec. 18, 2007 meeting the Board of Aldermen unanimously approved the City's first ever use of Tax Increment Financing (TIF) for the proposed development. Following the adoption of the ordinance authorizing the use of TIF, the project must go through the site plan review process.  The Board must also negotiate a redevelopment agreement.



New proposals



On Jan. 25, 2008, the St. Louis Business Journal reported that Apex Oil Company and Koman Properties, who are both headquartered in Clayton, are each working on plans for new office developments.  Read more - 1/25/08 St. Louis Business Journal (SLBJ). Montgomery Bank and R.J. York are also working on plans for developments in Clayton - 2/1/08 St. Louis Business Journal



. . . plus

The Cross County Extension of MetroLink, the region's lightrail system, opened in August 2006.  From the Forest Park Parkway passenger station at the northeast corner of the central business district, the route continues through downtown Clayton and turns south on its way to Interstate Highway 44. The Central/Shaw Park MetroLink passenger station located in the heart of the business district connects by walkway with the new Shaw Park Garage & Transit Center, St. Louis County's eight-level, 1,284 space parking facility along Shaw Park Drive between Meramec and Central Avenues.  Described as an inter-modal facility, the Shaw Park Garage & Transit Center serves as the hub for Bi-State bus and MetroLink passengers. MetroLink riders can park their cars in the new garage/transit center, then ride MetroLink to St. Louis area businesses and attractions. The Cross County MetroLink Extension and two Clayton passenger stations facilitate travel throughout the Metropolitan area and increase Clayton’s viability as the area’s "second downtown" and its position as the most desirable business location.



Summary



Super A Class office market, its central location, immediate access to major thoroughfares and the region's lightrail system are some of the attributes that solidify Clayton’s status as the most desirable business location in the St. Louis area. Residential and business citizens throughout the metropolitan area recognize the outstanding quality of life that has become Clayton’s trademark.





http://www.ci.clayton.mo.us/index.aspx?location=128

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PostMar 04, 2008#2

They say that Clayton is the region's most cosmopolitan area with an outstanding quality of life.


Hmm... really? that's news to me. It looks more like Topeka or Des Moines. A nice office park with a street grid. Does St. Louis want a really strong downtown or a really strong downtown Clayton?



Maybe the powers that be DOWNTOWN, should ask why so many businesses have left and chosen dt Clayton... "How can WE be more attractive to new businesses..." :?: :idea:

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PostMar 04, 2008#3

JCity wrote:
They say that Clayton is the region's most cosmopolitan area with an outstanding quality of life.


Hmm... really? that's news to me. It looks more like Topeka or Des Moines. A nice office park with a street grid. Does St. Louis want a really strong downtown or a really strong downtown Clayton?


Is this guy smoking the hippie lettuce? (the author, not Jcity) Clayton is not the most cosmo neighborhood, I'd give that price to CWE without question...and just because the Clayton skyline looks more like Topeka or Des Moines has nothing to do with it.



As Clayton resident, I can not dispute the claim that the quality of life is outstanding, much like many of the inner burbs.

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JCity wrote:
They say that Clayton is the region's most cosmopolitan area with an outstanding quality of life.


Hmm... really? that's news to me. It looks more like Topeka or Des Moines. A nice office park with a street grid. Does St. Louis want a really strong downtown or a really strong downtown Clayton?



Maybe the powers that be DOWNTOWN, should ask why so many businesses have left and chosen dt Clayton... "How can WE be more attractive to new businesses..." :?: :idea:


1. Saint Louis wants a strong Downtown, no question about it.

Just as much, Saint Louis County wants a strong business district. Hence, Clayton.

That the two are completely separate must be noted.



2. Clayton has more money in and around itself than StL City. It insulates.

Or, I lived in Clayton for years and barely heard of little more than car thieves and drunk drivers. Now, I live on Wash Ave. Two weeks ago, two murders took place on the same night a mile from my place, one at Larry Rice's, another in subsidized housing along Cass.

Clayton's neighbors are in million-dollar estates; downtown's neighbors are in projects.

Clayton gets funding from StL County's coffers. StL City gets funding from city residents, who have a lot less.



I'm not trying to be negative at all. But, it is what it is.



The hard thing when luring a company into Downtown StL is the earnings tax. When you have the head of a public corporation considering StL to locate, he has two choices:

1. StL City, with the 1% earnings tax.

2. StL County, with no earnings tax.

Now, shareholders could say that, by locating the HQ of the firm in a taxing district, the executive management is not acting in the best interest of the company and oust the leaders. While one may want to put their company downtown, it may cost one his job.



For key businesses, one of the conditions of their relocation, or even retention, is the earnings tax being waived.



Check out the Show-Me Institute and their research on the earnings tax. Great read.

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PostMar 04, 2008#5

Please don't start another earning tax debate...

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The hard thing when luring a company into Downtown StL is the earnings tax. When you have the head of a public corporation considering StL to locate, he has two choices:

1. StL City, with the 1% earnings tax.

2. StL County, with no earnings tax.

Now, shareholders could say that, by locating the HQ of the firm in a taxing district, the executive management is not acting in the best interest of the company and oust the leaders. While one may want to put their company downtown, it may cost one his job.



For key businesses, one of the conditions of their relocation, or even retention, is the earnings tax being waived.



Check out the Show-Me Institute and their research on the earnings tax. Great read.[/quote]



I don't like the earnings tax any more than you. However, a business must look at more than just that in analyzing the financial viability of downtown versus Clayton. How about property taxes? Cost of rental space? Both are significantly cheaper in downtown compared to Clayton. In addition, downtown will probably throw more subsidies at a new business than Clayton.



That being said, I think more than anything, the earnings tax is problematic because it is more visible than expenses like rent and property taxes. And it affects more people. I would like the City to implement a gradual increase to the property taxes of businesses while gradually phasing out the earnings tax.



But here is the rub. The earnings tax is actually a way for the surrounding counties to help pay some of the City's tax burden. After all--many downtown professionals live in the County and pay the tax. Thus, eliminating the earnings tax in favor of a corresponding increase in the property taxes to City Businesses would actually shift more of the tax burden back to the businesses (at least in the short term). (Thus, such businesses might leave the city in the short term).



In the long term, I believe it would increase business investment in the City (thus allowing for property taxes on businesses to be gradually scaled back). But how do you alleviate the short term budget shortfalls to implement such a system? I don't have the answers.

PostMar 04, 2008#7

Moorlander wrote:Please don't start another earning tax debate...


Sorry, had to respond.

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PostMar 05, 2008#8

downtown's neighbors are in projects.


maybe they shouldn't exist near downtown... Sorry, I don't want to sound MEAN, but I want downtown to be a complete success story. I think some of these projects can deter people from buying in said location.

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PostMar 05, 2008#9

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That is much of the Show-Me Institute's positioning: drop the earnings tax, increase the property tax.



I'm not looking to make this a discussion of the city earnings tax, as requested. However, when you ask why a publicly traded company is more inclined to establish operations within the Clayton city limits as opposed to Downtown, that's a primary consideration.



Such an assessment demands macroeconomic perspectives, even passively.



For example, what would a business executive rather show off outside their windows to visiting corporate contemporaries:

1. A background of green with the occasional church steeple and country club?

2. The downtown skyline, which is beautiful, but draped over the declining buildings and tri-level transportation infrastructure of East StL?

If you say (1), then you would set up in Clayton, regardless of tax issues.



For the record, my company chose (2). We're a professional services business wanting proximity to our clients and are committed to making our stand in Downtown.

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PostMar 14, 2008#10

I'm not a Clayton booster, but...



It's probably worth mentioning that many of the businesses that have located in Clayton, probably would have gone further west (if in the region at all), more suburban, not downtown. We should consider the positive benefits to the entire region of a growing, dense, rail transit accessible business district with such great access to the City. Theres a HUGE difference between Clayton and I-270 and The Great Beyond (where I work along Olive Blvd).



While far from being the most cosmopolitain area of the metro (as the Clayton website states), it's a flashy, sterile (to urbanists like me), sub-urban/urban, sunbelt-esque business district that is very attractive to many corporations and makes the region more competitive with the trendy "new" downtowns of the south and west. Claytons proximity, urban scale, and transit access has the potential to rev up the economic engine of St. Louis City as workers choose to live or play in the City. I also think Clayton can raise the bar for urban development Downtown and in the City, also making it more competitive on a national level. As it stands, the bar for urban development and design is laying on the floor in the City.



Clayton will eventually become effectively built out, as land acquisition becomes more difficult. Corporations will have but one real direction to turn for urban scaled, transit accessible properties.

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PostMar 16, 2008#11

I've got no problem with Clayton. I think of it as our "Uptown". All we've got to do is keep future development focused on the area between Clayton and Downtown.

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PostMay 09, 2008#12

There sure will be a lot of cranes in DT Clayton the next few years. (Well at least there is the possibility to be.)



Triannon 26 stories



Brown Shoe Phase 1&2



Montgomery Bank 30 stories

Currently no Rendering available



Franke Building Hotel 21 stories



Centene





Shaw Park Pointe 20 stories


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PostMay 11, 2008#13

Great for Clayton. Great for the region. I just wish some of this could be Downtown.

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PostMay 16, 2008#14

^ It will be fine in like 80 years when the city merges with the central west end and then clayton

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PostMay 16, 2008#15

stl1991 wrote:^ It will be fine in like 80 years when the city merges with the central west end and then clayton




I don't know how to tell you this, but.....CWE is in the city limits. Maybe recheck the math on your calculation again

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PostMay 29, 2008#16

ricke002 wrote:
stl1991 wrote:I don't know how to tell you this, but.....CWE is in the city limits. Maybe recheck the math on your calculation again
...then we've already won half the battle! Now for Clayton!

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PostMar 19, 2015#17

I can't seem to embed the video properly but here is an interview with Mayor Sanger about the upcoming $300million 900 apartment boom.

http://fox2now.com/2015/01/30/in-your-n ... 4iUIsZ42BB

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PostMar 19, 2015#18

Good to hear all the projects (especially The Crossing and Vanguard which seemed less clear) will include ground-floor retail.

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PostApr 10, 2015#19

Clayton is enlisting the help of architects to sort out the "large number of multi-use developments proposed in recent months":

http://www.westendword.com/Articles-Cla ... z3WvOgGISt

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PostApr 10, 2015#20

I gotta give the City of Clayton Kudos. They are really sticking to their downtown master plan and are addressing many of the issues so many of us have expressed on this forum about downtown Clayton.

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PostApr 10, 2015#21

ad much as i love Clayton why it seems they are getting all the new stuff and downtown has not seen anything new?

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PostApr 16, 2015#23

True_dope wrote:ad much as i love Clayton why it seems they are getting all the new stuff and downtown has not seen anything new?

You really need an answer to this?

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PostApr 16, 2015#24

It isn't all rainbows and unicorns in Clayton. I know of a few restaurants ready to go under and others that are hurting.

Downtown Clayton is a ghost town after 3pm and almost the entire weekend.

Downtown won't see new construction until BPV gets it's act together or after the bigger buildings get rehabbed. The Blackhawk hotel takes one off the block and I heard of another big rehab coming.

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PostApr 16, 2015#25

Looks great. Hopefully it's not long before the background of all of these photos becomes a 120-unit 6-story development.

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