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I've got no problem with Clayton. I think of it as our "Uptown". All we've got to do is keep future development focused on the area between Clayton and Downtown.

There sure will be a lot of cranes in DT Clayton the next few years. (Well at least there is the possibility to be.)



Triannon 26 stories



Brown Shoe Phase 1&2



Montgomery Bank 30 stories

Currently no Rendering available



Franke Building Hotel 21 stories



Centene





Shaw Park Pointe 20 stories

Great for Clayton. Great for the region. I just wish some of this could be Downtown.

^ It will be fine in like 80 years when the city merges with the central west end and then clayton

stl1991 wrote:^ It will be fine in like 80 years when the city merges with the central west end and then clayton

I don't know how to tell you this, but.....CWE is in the city limits. Maybe recheck the math on your calculation again

ricke002 wrote:

stl1991 wrote:I don't know how to tell you this, but.....CWE is in the city limits. Maybe recheck the math on your calculation again

...then we've already won half the battle! Now for Clayton!

I can't seem to embed the video properly but here is an interview with Mayor Sanger about the upcoming $300million 900 apartment boom.

http://fox2now.com/2015/01/30/in-your-n ... 4iUIsZ42BB

Good to hear all the projects (especially The Crossing and Vanguard which seemed less clear) will include ground-floor retail.

Clayton is enlisting the help of architects to sort out the "large number of multi-use developments proposed in recent months":

http://www.westendword.com/Articles-Cla ... z3WvOgGISt

I gotta give the City of Clayton Kudos. They are really sticking to their downtown master plan and are addressing many of the issues so many of us have expressed on this forum about downtown Clayton.

ad much as i love Clayton why it seems they are getting all the new stuff and downtown has not seen anything new?

We finally got our Parklet!










http://www.stlmag.com/dining/its-a-pati ... c-parklet/

True_dope wrote:ad much as i love Clayton why it seems they are getting all the new stuff and downtown has not seen anything new?

You really need an answer to this?

It isn't all rainbows and unicorns in Clayton. I know of a few restaurants ready to go under and others that are hurting.

Downtown Clayton is a ghost town after 3pm and almost the entire weekend.

Downtown won't see new construction until BPV gets it's act together or after the bigger buildings get rehabbed. The Blackhawk hotel takes one off the block and I heard of another big rehab coming.

Looks great. Hopefully it's not long before the background of all of these photos becomes a 120-unit 6-story development.

downtown2007 wrote: Downtown Clayton is a ghost town after 3pm and almost the entire weekend.

Reallly?


Hopefully the influx of new residents and construction will finally get some more street activity on some of the dead blocks.

I know it has been discussed but what of the corner of Clayton and Hanley roads and the old Schnucks?
Nothing like an frumpy aging building with stained paper covered windows to welcome one to Clayton Missouri.

moorlander wrote:

downtown2007 wrote: Downtown Clayton is a ghost town after 3pm and almost the entire weekend.

Reallly?


Hopefully the influx of new residents and construction will finally get some more street activity on some of the dead blocks.

Multiple places are reporting sales down 30-40%. Jennifer's Pharmacy is done. And big one is ready to fall. Don't shoot the messenger.

Clayton is arguably worse than many places in the region, including Downtown. I've never seen the nightlife scene in Clayton so dead as i have recently. The only busy bars in Clayton now are Napoli, Barcelona and sometimes Fields. Wheelhouse downtown killed the one in Clayton. The biggest thing that hurt Clayton bars is the dumb as F farmers market every Thursday in the summer; why they thought there would be crossover between people buying Kale and getting drinks at the bars for happy hour is beyond me. Over-aggressive policing tactics around the bars. Clayton cops actually sit in the middle of Central and watch people leave bars. Is this Russia? Clayton needs to be more worried about it's retail than it seems to be..

jcity wrote:Clayton needs to be more worried about it's retail than it seems to be..

Clayton's retail and nightlife are pretty moribund. But I think they're aware of it and doing what they can to stabilize and improve. While nothing has broken ground, Clayton a solid mixed-use development pipeline, at least one of which is explicitly transit-oriented. Some (including the owner of The Wine Merchant) have hinted at an impending Centene Phase II. Also, Clayton has adopted a comprehensive development plan focused on increasing density and walkability.

It's arguable whether all of the planned developments will help Clayton's retail and nightlife (i.e. replacing the World News corner or adding another monolithic Centene Plaza). But Clayton's basic thesis of increased residential density (much of which is geared toward a younger demographic) and a focus on transit access (at least for one development) is sound. It might not be the same nightlife draw as Downtown, The Loop, or The Grove, but 600+ additional apartments and more office employees would certainly help.

Also, Opus's plan to redevelop/reactivate the western half of Meramec between Forsyth & Maryland - the most important retail block in DT Clayton - could help the area's energy and patronage.

from Winter 2013...after dinner guy is walking home in Clayton, falls and injuries himself...nobody around to help and he freezes to death in middle of clayton....

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... eb7bd.html

sirshankalot wrote:

True_dope wrote:ad much as i love Clayton why it seems they are getting all the new stuff and downtown has not seen anything new?

You really need an answer to this?

Yes, what is the reason?

At the end of the day it boils down to rental rates. Rents are high enough in Clayton (and the CWE) to justify new construction. That's not the case for DT.