Glad to see I'm not the only one. The homeless are getting really ballsy as we've been approached in Fortune Teller and saw a different guy making the rounds in Melt.southcitygent wrote:Back to the topic of Cherokee, I was there one night this week and accousted several times by homeless types asking for money. There was one guy who walked into the bar and went from table to table before being chased out. The begging seems to be on the increase. I didn't mind as much but noticed some groups of women that were extremely uncomfortable with it.
That happen to me in the Starbucks downtown the manager chased him out but the homeless man tried to make it a race issue.
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Same thing with me upstairs at Culinaria. The guy pointed at me and asked why the manager wasn't making "the white guy" leave. Awkward.True_dope wrote:That happen to me in the Starbucks downtown the manager chased him out but the homeless man tried to make it a race issue.
I just ignored it and keep on drinking my coffee but was happy they kick him out. You have to buy a cup to enjoy the heat just saying.Anglophile wrote:Same thing with me upstairs at Culinaria. The guy pointed at me and asked why the manager wasn't making "the white guy" leave. Awkward.True_dope wrote:That happen to me in the Starbucks downtown the manager chased him out but the homeless man tried to make it a race issue.
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Here's a picture of the reversible lanes on Gravois near Arsenal around 1986...
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Yep, that's them! Notice the next set of lights just above the horizon in the distance. You had to really pay attention as you drove along over the hills and around the curves; pretty scary stuff.
^My eyes can't get past the Bavarian Inn and its outdoor garden. That sounds great.
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Bavarian Inn on Arsenal had a sister restaurant on Cherokee. There used to be a ton of German places in that area.
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/b ... 0f31a.html
http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/b ... 0f31a.html
Elaine's Sandwich shop going in on Cherokee - east of Jefferson
http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/a ... 095d5.html
http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/a ... 095d5.html
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They just put up a sweet new neon sign; I bet it'll look cool lit up:downtown2007 wrote:Also Earthbound Brewing is now open. Check it out if you are in the area. The space is cool and the owner gave me a free tour.

Bridge Bread coming to Cherokee - neat story -
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutche ... spring.php
Also looks like a new boutique going in - saw a coming soon sign
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutche ... spring.php
Also looks like a new boutique going in - saw a coming soon sign
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^ That is cool. Was the boutique you saw nearby or elsewhere on Cherokee?
It also is pretty cool to see more retail growing on the cross street frontage like the feminist sex shop on Ohio.
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/new ... t-sex-shop
It also is pretty cool to see more retail growing on the cross street frontage like the feminist sex shop on Ohio.
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/new ... t-sex-shop
Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
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^ My default answer is always and without hesitation...... donut shop! More seriously, I do wonder if a restaurant might add more of a mix and foot traffic than another retail shop as our section seems to be skewed to the latter currently.
That's a shame. I went to Junk Junkie once and it didn't seem like it was a place that had a curated collection of things like MoModerne...it was more like all of their junk (junk junkie, i get it!) from their estate sales that wouldn't fit in at their south county location. I was under the impression the people who owned MoModerne owned Junk Junkie, so I expected a bit more I guess?Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
I was sad MoModerne moved from their Cherokee location and visited them often when they were there, but since they've moved to the county I've not given them a cent...their move broke my addiction. I'm sure they're doing great and don't care about one customer, but I stuck to my guns on this one. With places like Rocket Century on Grand, and the place on Jefferson, among others, you can still find Mid Century in the city.
I'd personally love to see a curated, vintage/mid century modern store back on that corner because, when done right, it seemed to draw people from all over the area to that intersection.
stlgasm wrote:Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
What would it take to extend the streetscaping down to that end of Cherokee, specfically the pedestrian-scaled lighting? It's so dark and desolate-looking compared to the blocks further east, especially at night. The cobra heads mostly light the tops of the trees.
Also, please open-hand slap whoever redid the three buildings across the street from you that house Redberri by bricking up the windows and slapping vinyl siding across all three storefronts. Awful, and it makes presents an oppressive, uninviting face to pedestrians.
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Money.rbb wrote:stlgasm wrote:Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
What would it take to extend the streetscaping down to that end of Cherokee, specfically the pedestrian-scaled lighting?
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Pretty much the answer to any STL-related question that starts with "What would it take...?"dbInSouthCity wrote:Money.rbb wrote:stlgasm wrote:Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
What would it take to extend the streetscaping down to that end of Cherokee, specfically the pedestrian-scaled lighting?
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Looks like Athlete Eats will be staying on Cherokee but also opening a Brentwood location and food truck, with everything rebranded as Revel Kitchen. Also looking at a commissary kitchen off 70 and expanding even more.
http://www.saucemagazine.com/blog/?cat=19
http://www.saucemagazine.com/blog/?cat=19
Athlete Eats got some love from the N.Y. Times today: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/26/trave ... louis.html
NM: Just saw RW posted the Times article in the Bar/Pub thread. Good to hear they're sticking around and expanding. The way I saw the Times article was actually because Jon Jay retweeted it:
Jon Jay @jonjayU
This just happened! Thank you @NewYorktimes_ON for the article. We're humbled and flattered. http://t.co/flQ0XXrRGd
NM: Just saw RW posted the Times article in the Bar/Pub thread. Good to hear they're sticking around and expanding. The way I saw the Times article was actually because Jon Jay retweeted it:
Jon Jay @jonjayU
This just happened! Thank you @NewYorktimes_ON for the article. We're humbled and flattered. http://t.co/flQ0XXrRGd
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Your comment got me to thinking that it would be smart to examine how the S. Grand and Cherokee successes can merge a bit by getting some cohesiveness in the Grand/Cherokee/Gravois area.... maybe a "Grand Cherokee" border area. I think extending the S, Grand Great Streets down to Gravois, some banner signs and placemaking treatments, and of course more businesses, etc. (especially along Gravois) would all help to strengthen a currently rather ragged area that holds potential.rbb wrote:stlgasm wrote:Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
What would it take to extend the streetscaping down to that end of Cherokee, specfically the pedestrian-scaled lighting? It's so dark and desolate-looking compared to the blocks further east, especially at night. The cobra heads mostly light the tops of the trees.
-RBB
I think that would be smart if money could be allocated - of course the biggest obstacle. I do think streetsape improvements along the rather auto-centric stretch of Grand at Gravois and just north will be less impactful, but overall it could very well be an investment that reaps more in return in the long run.roger wyoming II wrote:Your comment got me to thinking that it would be smart to examine how the S. Grand and Cherokee successes can merge a bit by getting some cohesiveness in the Grand/Cherokee/Gravois area.... maybe a "Grand Cherokee" border area. I think extending the S, Grand Great Streets down to Gravois, some banner signs and placemaking treatments, and of course more businesses, etc. (especially along Gravois) would all help to strengthen a currently rather ragged area that holds potential.rbb wrote:stlgasm wrote:Junk Junkie has closed on the corner of Cherokee & Compton (across from STyLehouse). The building owners will be doing some renovations to the storefront and then hope to rent it out. What do you think is needed at that end of Cherokee?
What would it take to extend the streetscaping down to that end of Cherokee, specfically the pedestrian-scaled lighting? It's so dark and desolate-looking compared to the blocks further east, especially at night. The cobra heads mostly light the tops of the trees.
-RBB
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From StL Mag:
Coming Soon To Cherokee Street: Saint Louis Hop Shop
Coming Soon To Cherokee Street: Saint Louis Hop Shop
http://www.stlmag.com/dining/coming-soo ... -hop-shop/Few areas in St. Louis have seen a more vibrant growth than Cherokee Street. It offers a dynamic blend of some of the best Mexican cuisine in St. Louis along with unique venues that each provide their own distinct voice.
A growing community is also a thirsty one, enter the Saint Louis Hop Shop. Co-founders Ryan Griffith and Justin Harris saw a need to not only provide the Cherokee community with not only a “one stop shop for your beer needs” but also use their local presence to “enrich the culture of the city.”
“We see a lot of change happening in St. Louis,” says Harris, “We believe it’s our responsibility as business owners and residents to put our best foot forward to promote economic growth here in the city.”
The Saint Louis Hop Shop, located at 2606 Cherokee, will focus largely on the local craft beer scene, but will also provide tasty beverages from not only regional breweries, but beer from across the globe.






