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PostFeb 23, 2023#753

NextSTL - It's not Kim Gardner; it's our toxic relationship with cars

https://nextstl.com/2023/02/its-not-kim ... with-cars/

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PostFeb 23, 2023#754

It’s Kim Gardner. Her office doesn’t know what victims are dead and alive. Ineptitude.

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PostFeb 23, 2023#755

Quin, I find that headline sensational and I think its beneath you to use this situation to advance the anti-car agenda, even though I'm on your side on that.  I'm sometimes hyperbolic myself, but c'mon. 

And you are forcing me to agree with whither, which is a twilight zone episode in it's own right. 

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PostFeb 23, 2023#756

The headline is meant to be provocative, I'll give you that. Focusing on Kim Gardner is warranted in this acute situation. Focusing on Kim Gardner as the sole contributor to the dangerous conditions that resulted in this girl's maiming is myopic because the other factors that contributed to this also contribute to many other deaths and injuries irrespective of who is the CA.

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PostFeb 23, 2023#757

City should release an RFQ for Crossing Guards or Flaggers downtown. A team of 40, full-time, $17-18 and hour. Give them marketable attire, train them with customer service, have them report out of Downtown STL office or Police HQ. Give them ability to communicate directly with police on repeat offenders or unsafe driving conditions.

40 heads x 40 hours per week x $17.50 an hour x 25% contract overhead + CAPEX = $2-3m annually.

Basically reinvent the downtown ambassador program that they stupidly canned in 2018.

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PostFeb 23, 2023#758

^ there are downtown guides now,  and GSI is rolling out a downtown security team with a $1.35M fed grant 

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PostFeb 25, 2023#760

There are guides now?  I never see them.  They used to be a fairly constant presence.

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PostFeb 25, 2023#761

Yes, they have bikes and wear yellow uniforms with GUIDE on the back

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PostFeb 26, 2023#763

When will that entire clusterF of an intersection be redone??

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PostFeb 26, 2023#764

Redoing this intersection has got to be cheaper than the damage these crashes do.

Stltoday - Four killed, four injured in vehicle crash early Sunday at South Grand Boulevard and Forest Park Parkway
our people are dead after their car crashed with another, ran off an overpass and landed upside-down at South Grand Boulevard and Forest Park Parkway early Sunday morning.

Four others were injured.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/fou ... 36a04.html

PostFeb 26, 2023#765

StlToday - Man killed, another injured in Saturday afternoon crash in Bevo Mill neighborhood
Police said that an electric signal on the southeast corner of eastbound Bates was turned facing southward traffic on Morganford.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/man-kille ... 1806b.html

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PostFeb 26, 2023#766

Went on a long run yesterday, CWE-Downtown-Soulard-Tower Grove-CWE and almost got run over twice by drivers not stopping at stop signs while I was on the crosswalk. Both times I also got yelled at by said drivers.
On a related note, I have noticed that drivers in St. Louis never stop at crosswalks unless there is a stop sign or traffic light. It's kind of sad to see pedestrians trying to cross South Grand - many of those crosswalks are effectively useless.

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PostFeb 26, 2023#767

This Bevo crash is far worse than the downtown one last week, people’s obsession with Gardner drove that coverage. The Bevo crash both drivers did nothing wrong and the city failed them, the light facing the wrong way was reported Wednesday

PostFeb 26, 2023#768

kipfilet wrote:
Feb 26, 2023
Went on a long run yesterday, CWE-Downtown-Soulard-Tower Grove-CWE and almost got run over twice by drivers not stopping at stop signs while I was on the crosswalk. Both times I also got yelled at by said drivers.
On a related note, I have noticed that drivers in St. Louis never stop at crosswalks unless there is a stop sign or traffic light. It's kind of sad to see pedestrians trying to cross South Grand - many of those crosswalks are effectively useless.
Post covid bad driving is bad countrywide but a tad bit worse here and part of it is covid and second is 2015 Missouri senate bill 5 to capped traffic ticket revenue for cities. There is a direct correlation between it and declining traffic stops

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PostFeb 26, 2023#769

We don't get public safety unless there's a profit motive? Besides the city was well below the cap before #Ferguson, 7% while they could got to 20% under SB5.

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PostFeb 27, 2023#770

I would guess that the vast majority of accidents are caused by excessive speeding. Need to use the surpluses to fund significant road diets and pedestrian improvements throughout the city. 

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PostFeb 27, 2023#771

flipz wrote:
Feb 27, 2023
I would guess that the vast majority of accidents are caused by excessive speeding. Need to use the surpluses to fund significant road diets and pedestrian improvements throughout the city. 
Using 2019 data because it’s complete; In Missouri of the 900 roadway fatalities that year 
207 alcohol/drug 
129 speeding 
85 distracted driver 1
46 failed to yield.

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PostFeb 27, 2023#772

^Do they break down the alcohol/drug any? I'd expect a lot of those don't also involved speed and distraction, since one of the fundamental problems is impaired judgement, making people more likely to do stupid and dangerous things. Road diets won't solve everything, but even with people hell bent on destruction they could still help. More opportunities for drunken drivers to wreck their car on a curb or a planter before hitting another person seems like a win to me.

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PostFeb 27, 2023#774

StlToday - Woman dies days after crash near downtown St. Louis

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 8be13.html

PostFeb 28, 2023#775

Even the dead can't have peace.

StlToday - ‘Crisis on our hands’: South St. Louis crash latest in string of traffic fatalities

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/acc ... d7bd5.html

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