There were plans maybe 2-3 years ago to redo this location, were there not?RobbyD wrote:
But, I wonder why Schuncks allows a location to exist in such poor condition?
I don't think the roof is about to fall in or the food is bad...I guess it is a store that gets a lot of traffic is just woefully tired in appearance...?
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To be clear, I was referring to some of the clientele, not so much the physical store.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Yeah, the Lindell Schnuck's is definitely on the trashy side.
They actually did do some renovations at the Lindell Schnucks a few years ago, which were a mild improvement. I've lived here six years, and have noticed that the clientele and experience at the Lindell Schnucks has actually improved a bit. Unsure why. The Richmond Heights location has better produce and pre-made meals by far, and is definitely nicer, but if I'll drive that far, might as well go to Trader Joe's 
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I have thought the same thing as it was being built. No clue. I just work there.For something completely different, is anybody else bothered by the wedge of space between this building and the adjacent parking garage? I look at it and wonder why they didn't build the west wall perpendicular to Euclid and Forest Park.
I have no complaints about the clientele or appearance of the Lindell Schnucks, both seem like your average grocery store to me. My complaint is the consistent lack of cashiers--there never seem to be enough during peak shopping times. Maybe they're just providing an incentive to me to shop at off-peak hours, like congestion pricing for streets.
My guess is two-fold. 1.) There is going to be a new pedestrian entrance on the east side of the garage with a corresponding entrance on the west side of the new building, and they want to open them up to the street a bit so that it doesn't feel like they're in a dark alley. 2.) They want to let a bit more light into the west facing offices on the lower floors.Mill204 wrote:For something completely different, is anybody else bothered by the wedge of space between this building and the adjacent parking garage? I look at it and wonder why they didn't build the west wall perpendicular to Euclid and Forest Park.
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^ Good thoughts. I'll add that it looks a bit strange, but I'd much rather have the building up against Euclid and than have the wedge there. Anything other than a rectangular building would have been quite an additional expense.
That is, in fact, exactly what they are doing. You can see their plans for that space on their architect's website (http://www.christnerinc.com/our-work/ma ... s/bjc-acc/).Wabash wrote:My guess is two-fold. 1.) There is going to be a new pedestrian entrance on the east side of the garage with a corresponding entrance on the west side of the new building, and they want to open them up to the street a bit so that it doesn't feel like they're in a dark alley. 2.) They want to let a bit more light into the west facing offices on the lower floors.
Is there even enough space for a Culineria in the new building? A StL BJ article from 2009 says the building will have about 10,000 sq ft of retail whereas the current Culineria is just over 20,000 sq ft. Has retail been expanded into some of the grey area? Or will it be a mini Culineria? Just a wild rumor?
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Wild rumor - definitely not enough space... unless the retail is two stories (don't believe it is).
I always thought that the retail was going to be a pharmacy. It makes sense, other than the fact that there is a pharmacy in the CAM building across the parkway. Looking at the architect's renderings, they have that idea too.
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Not to criticize BJC, because this will be a great building, but those renderings did provide an answer to a question I'd been wondering about: Will the clinic patients, most of whom have medicaid or no insurance, and the BJC executives ride the elevator together. The answer, aparrently, is no. There are three large elevators labeled "clinic elevator lobby", then a wall, and on the other side, the "administrative elevator lobby". We couldn't have the suits mingling with the common people now, could we?
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The more likely reason is that we don't want the "common people" getting a free ride to the administrative offices and helping themselves to laptops and cell phones.DrDrew wrote:We couldn't have the suits mingling with the common people now, could we?
While a Culinaria might be unrealistic, I think a convenience store could do well here. I don't know what the shopping options are like within the BJC complex, but I imagine a large, well-stocked 7-11 could do well with the BJC crowd and nearby apartment dwellers.
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^ Put a Dunkin' Donuts next to it and I'm in heaven!
There's a more simple, less nefarious reason for separate elevators. Simply put, it's much easier to separate users in the lobby than at each floor. With HIPAA and other regulations, each floor would need an admin desk/reception area. This way there's just one and the office part can be an office and the clinic can be a clinic. Makes sense to me.
There's a more simple, less nefarious reason for separate elevators. Simply put, it's much easier to separate users in the lobby than at each floor. With HIPAA and other regulations, each floor would need an admin desk/reception area. This way there's just one and the office part can be an office and the clinic can be a clinic. Makes sense to me.
In my experience it can often take a while to get up or down from some of the upper floors of the CAM via elevator (sometimes I've had to let an elevator or two pass by completely full). There are a lot of people visiting and effectively hitting every floor of the building, and with many patients being in wheelchairs/scooters you can only pack so many folks in an elevator.
I'd imagine this building will be similarly as popular, so having an express elevator to the top floors makes some practical sense.
I'd imagine this building will be similarly as popular, so having an express elevator to the top floors makes some practical sense.
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I'd love to see a place bring back brain sandwiches.... a place at BJC would be just the spot!Alex Ihnen wrote:^ Put a Dunkin' Donuts next to it and I'm in heaven!
I drafted a similar response but didn't post it because I was feeling vindictive. That said, personally I find the 'rich vs. commoner' angle tired and overdone. As ben1040 pointed out, the elevators are designed that way for a functional purpose of the buildings operations, not as a tool of bourgeois oppression. Ooops, getting vindictive again.ben1040 wrote:In my experience it can often take a while to get up or down from some of the upper floors of the CAM via elevator (sometimes I've had to let an elevator or two pass by completely full). There are a lot of people visiting and effectively hitting every floor of the building, and with many patients being in wheelchairs/scooters you can only pack so many folks in an elevator.
I'd imagine this building will be similarly as popular, so having an express elevator to the top floors makes some practical sense.
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Good news - BJC to spend $3.5 Billion to revamp their campus. $1.2 Billion to come in the next decade.
Bad news - bye, bye Queeny Tower.
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Good news - BJC to spend $3.5 Billion to revamp their campus. $1.2 Billion to come in the next decade.
Bad news - bye, bye Queeny Tower.
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Never been a fan of the parking garage that Queeny sits atop. Bad entrance to the BJC Campus when getting off of I-64.moorlander wrote:http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/prin ... llion.html
Good news - BJC to spend $3.5 Billion to revamp their campus. $1.2 Billion to come in the next decade.
Bad news - bye, bye Queeny Tower.
Queeny Tower
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I don't love looking at all the cars, but I kinda like the repeating archway look.
Whatever they do, I hope we get away from the tan and teal aesthetic. A little of that goes a long way, and I'm over it.
Whatever they do, I hope we get away from the tan and teal aesthetic. A little of that goes a long way, and I'm over it.
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i hope "northwest corner" doesn't include demolition of the old shriner's hospital and the central institute for the deaf...
^Shriners and the CID are on the southern end of the campus, so they don't immediately spring to mind with the announcement that BJC is "starting at the northwestern corner of the campus." I think the more likely demolitions or alterations are to the old Jewish Hospital Nursing School and the other old hospital buildings around Parkview and Kingshighway (Kingshighway building, Yalem, etc). There's a detailed barely-out-of-date map in pdf form here.
Definitely work sticking up for Shriners and CID, though. We'll won't get a better idea until more details are released.
Definitely work sticking up for Shriners and CID, though. We'll won't get a better idea until more details are released.
Throw in a few other odds and ends,
- New Shriners hospital
- Pharmacy and Nursing School expansion
- Another Cortex building
- Mills apts on Euclid, Drury Inn proposal & housing in FPSE, and maybe just maybe something at the corner of Kingshighway/Lindall
and you got a termendous number of things and development going on for CWE/FPSE in the very near future.
- New Shriners hospital
- Pharmacy and Nursing School expansion
- Another Cortex building
- Mills apts on Euclid, Drury Inn proposal & housing in FPSE, and maybe just maybe something at the corner of Kingshighway/Lindall
and you got a termendous number of things and development going on for CWE/FPSE in the very near future.