urbanSTL

^^You beat me to the punch.
Here's a link to Fox2's site. They have some more good pics.

http://fox2now.com/2013/03/09/stadium-p ... ming-down/

In my opinion, the Cardinals organization or whoever owns the Stadium West and Stadium East garages needs to do something with the facades. The facades are very dated. And while I would prefer to see the garages - as they are now - gone - and we all know that ain't gonna happen - the least they could do is spruce up the garage facades.

Take a cue from the MX District garage. Gloss up those hulking structures.

Why can't they put glass around those garages? It doesn't even have to be expensive glass. Or they could put Cardinals players murals on them. Or they could stagger LED lights on them. It's time to modernize/upgrade the look of these buildings.

For example.







Below, Stadium West garage.


photo credit: urbanreviewstl.com

The old nextSTL story on parking garages - bunch of images of good/bad: http://nextstl.com/transportation/its-t ... ng-garages

Alex Ihnen wrote:The old nextSTL story on parking garages - bunch of images of good/bad: http://nextstl.com/transportation/its-t ... ng-garages

Cool. Thanks for the link. I missed that one.

Some of the St. Louis garages don't look too bad. However, the Stadium garages need to be a priority - especially with BPV starting to come up.

I wonder how can a statement of encouragement be given to the owners? Who do we email? The Cardinals? The City? Some company?

Owner Name: UGP-KIENER/STADIUM PARKING LLC
Owner Name (Secondary): EPROPERTY TAX
Owner Address: P O BOX 4900 DEPT 200
SCOTTSDALE, 852614900

Alex Ihnen wrote:Owner Name: UGP-KIENER/STADIUM PARKING LLC
Owner Name (Secondary): EPROPERTY TAX
Owner Address: P O BOX 4900 DEPT 200
SCOTTSDALE, 852614900

Thank You.

Not stating this is a legitimate rumor, but interesting footnote at the bottom of the article talking about 590 and 1380 AM format changes:

"Dan Marshall, newly-name president revealed that the Man will likely be moving to a “more high profile location.” He likes a visible corner at I-270 and Manchester. He thinks moving to Ball Park Village could possibly be in he cards. “We need a place where everyone can see our sign,” said Marshall."

http://ladue-frontenac.patch.com/articl ... o-13669627

It's most likely nothing than a passing idea by the stations, but at least it shows that companies are interested and actively thinking about moving to the BPV.

^ and they can really take their time to look at it as they sit in the 270 parking lot every day

So according to one of the local news networks, while the BPV buildings won't be open until next year, we can all look forward to the new parking to be completed by mid-season! How awesome!!

Also, fwiw about Kansas City P&L District, it was the number one attraction in the region far out-pacing others with 9 million visitors. # 2 & 3 were casinos.

^ kinda ridiculous. I imagine West County Mall, or the Galleria, or a Walmart is likely a top attraction in St. Louis depending on how you count. Perhaps the new I-64 is the top attraction? I guess what I'm saying is that P&L isn't an attraction, it's part of downtown KC with restaurants.

stlien wrote:

dredger wrote:Maybe a sales office will pop up in the first Phase, but still think they are behind the eight ball and a legitimate proposal for new downtown residential infill is going to hit the street before the year is out.

I don't think they're behind the eight ball and even if a "legitimate proposal for new downtown residential infill" is announced, it wouldn't have a negative effect on residential at BPV. If anything, it'll have a positive effect.

Downtown is expected to have new housing in the near future. The Arcade-Wright is to build new artists' lofts along the lines of the Leather Trades in DTW and the Metropolitan in Midtown. The Roberts Tower has new ownership focused on redeveloping the empty shell as something residential that actually works. And, the Chemical remains viable to be redone. Add-in the inflow of SLU Law personnel and students, and it's quite reasonable to see new residential building up momentum... And it is this momentum, increasing neighboring Downtown residential demographics, that will both build-up the valuation of the site and provide more validation to Downtown residential to prospective purchasers.

And, there's value to having residential come after something more significant than the Bullriding Bar and parking lots. Otherwise, it's just a tower next to a Bullriding Bar and parking lots. Not the image to fill a residential tower by far...

It also has to be said that residential today is a pretty crappy place to put one's disposable monies. Many purchasers of a residential unit here will be doing so for investment purposes, just as many lofts in Downtown were purchased as "second homes" that were later rented out, not for the primary purpose of generating rental income, but for increased real estate market pricings. This was common pre-2008, and we are still feeling these effects today.

Right now, money is super cheap, and stasis assets suck. More so, the US Dollar is cheap. Consider that a typical savings account may be generating 1%, at most, annual interest. Inflation, meanwhile, is closer to 1.8%. This tells me that this is not a good time to be buying a house in general, let alone as an investment-worthy property.

I do see residential coming, but not yet, not until the economy really turns around.

I'm actually annoyed about how easy it was for me to find parking in downtown St Louis, and it was free on Saturdays. I don't think the parking is ever free on the weekends up here in Chicago, and its expensive. Your thoughts might be, "how do people handle it?" My thought is, "the city sure is making a lot of revenue, and there's more people walking or using public transit."

On-street parking is free on weekends in STL.

Free after 7pm in CWE during the week.