Pretty clear to me that Lux no longer has many fans on social media. It’s basically unanimous disapproval of the project by everyone on my Facebook, Reddit post, and Twitter. It’s a small sample size, but only a handful are fine with it. Lux is the main target of people being against it though. Whether or not that small amount of people translates over to actual opposition once this goes up for review remains to be seen.
A new mixed-use plan will be discussed at a public meeting this Wednesday at the Heman Park Community Center.
https://www.ucitymo.org/DocumentCenter/ ... Commission
https://www.ucitymo.org/DocumentCenter/ ... Commission
Subtext did The Verve on Lindell.
Can U City support a project that makes sense given the $4.9M acquisition cost? It seems unworkable given the acq cost, parking mandate, and opposition to a building with as many units and thus tall as the Opus and Lux proposals.
Can U City support a project that makes sense given the $4.9M acquisition cost? It seems unworkable given the acq cost, parking mandate, and opposition to a building with as many units and thus tall as the Opus and Lux proposals.
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U-City needs to allow something pretty sizable there.
And they need to allow the north Loop lots to be developed as well.
And they need to allow the north Loop lots to be developed as well.
They needed to approve the proposal for the Harvard Delmar school site from 2014. They keep hoping WashU will pay PILOTs while denying taxable development proposals. It's sad.
The plan is for 314 apartments with some townhome style units fronting Delmar and a mix of studios-3-bedroom apartments upstairs. Plans also call for 8160sf of retail restaurant space. A total of 410 parking spaces are proposed compared to the required 599 (10% transit reduction and 25% conditional use permit reductions included yield a net parking requirement of 404 spaces, but they're including 410 anyways).
There are no renderings yet, but Craft Alliance looks like it's going "bye bye", although I'm not leaving the idea of the facade being preserved out of the picture (like the Lux plans). Building height at the corner of Delmar and Leland, according to planning documents, will be 80' - 4".
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There are no renderings yet, but Craft Alliance looks like it's going "bye bye", although I'm not leaving the idea of the facade being preserved out of the picture (like the Lux plans). Building height at the corner of Delmar and Leland, according to planning documents, will be 80' - 4".




NextSTL - Subtext plans mixed-use apartment building in the Delmar Loop
https://nextstl.com/2023/07/subtext-pla ... lmar-loop/
https://nextstl.com/2023/07/subtext-pla ... lmar-loop/
Personally, I was hoping for something more contemporary, but it's not bad. I like the massing. It should fit in nicely.
Need buildings like this on all the vacant lots up and down Delmar.
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I generally like it. I wish it retained the Craft Alliance building at least in part. It's a handsome little structure. But I can live with this. It'll add good scale. It fills the space well. It ticks all the boxes. Would be neat if they could make some reference to what they're replacing, though.
Just to be clear, I'm in support of this. A little reference would make it perfect, but no need for the perfect to be the enemy of the quite good enough.
Just to be clear, I'm in support of this. A little reference would make it perfect, but no need for the perfect to be the enemy of the quite good enough.
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I wonder if the The Bridge is still stuck in limbo.goat314 wrote: ↑Jul 27, 2023Need buildings like this on all the vacant lots up and down Delmar.
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Mixed-use development proposed on Delmar Loop
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2023/12/21/delmar-loop-apartments-u-city-mixed-use-retail.htmlUniversity City could soon approve the first major construction project in the Delmar Loop since the Covid-19 pandemic.
St. Louis-based apartment developer Subtext plans a mixed-use development with 329 apartments and 8,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space in the Delmar Loop, and the city council could potentially grant final approval at a meeting Jan. 8, city documents show.
Subtext has four properties under contract for the project at 6630, 6640, 6650 and 6654 Delmar Blvd., according to filings. Of those sites, 6630 and 6650 are owned by Commerce Bank, while 6640 and 6654 are owned by Washington University, the filings say. The 1.98-acre development site currently is occupied by two vacant buildings: One is a one-story former Commerce Bank location with some retail and restaurant space that was built in 1953, while the one owned by WashU is the former Craft Alliance building constructed in 1930. The university also owns the parcel next to its building, 6654 Delmar.
The new apartment complex would have 54 studios, 49 one-bedroom apartments, 140 two-bedroom apartments and 76 three-bedroom apartments. The project is also to feature 10 two-story townhouses that would each have two bedrooms and two bathrooms, with both direct access from the ground level and access from inside the building.
The development cost and financing details were not listed in city documents.
Neither of the existing buildings are designated historic sites, but the property is within 300 feet of three other local or national historic districts, the University City Civic Complex Historic District and Parkview District created by the city, and the national Delmar Loop-Parkview Gardens Historic District.
The project would require several changes to University City zoning code, which city staffers said in a report might be necessary to encourage development. The city council in 2019 voted to get rid of the set number of minimum parking spaces requirement for projects in the Delmar Loop, instead opting for a formula based on the number of units and other factors, but no projects have been proposed since that time, according to the report.
Why do all the projects proposed for this site have to be so huge? Couldn't they build an apartment building just on the former commerce bank/bread co property and leave the old craft alliance building alone?
Proforma pencils out better when you can spread land, parking, and common area / amenities across more units. Scale drives down the per unit cost for the aforementioned costs.PeterXCV wrote: ↑Dec 22, 2023Why do all the projects proposed for this site have to be so huge? Couldn't they build an apartment building just on the former commerce bank/bread co property and leave the old craft alliance building alone?
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Regardless what the actual vote was for, this has gotten much further than the OPUS proposal and certainly further than the Lux proposal that came and went like the wind. I’m still salty at the NIMBYs who killed the Skinker and Delmar proposal. The loop needs all the new housing and development it can get to continue being one of the most vibrant parts of the city and region.
Sounds like this development has been downsized. Reduced from 7 stories to 5; units reduced from 329 to 260. Parking has been increased to meet current zoning requirements. New plans will be presented in March.
http://apps.ucitymo.org/PublicPortal/0/ ... ission.pdf (page 12)
http://apps.ucitymo.org/PublicPortal/0/ ... ission.pdf (page 12)
Ugh, the Loop needs more people, not more cars or empty parking spaces.
Sounds like it went from a steel or concrete structure to wood.
Sounds like it went from a steel or concrete structure to wood.







