Are 55% of babies born after 2010 in Finland and Kenya minorities?
Uh, knowing from personal experience, the white neighbors on the Hill will actually take action to overbid potential black homeowners to keep the neighborhood white. And there were black lives matter protests on the Hill not long ago so it's not just liberal whites lol.
We're not talking about some white town in Appalachia, urban segregation happens for a reason.
We're not talking about some white town in Appalachia, urban segregation happens for a reason.
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I didn't think mods would allow "spaghetti slurpers". Let me gather my thoughts for a response.
I think we've answered your questions. You really don't have to respond.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022I didn't think mods would allow "spaghetti slurpers". Let me gather my thoughts for a response.
^ I didn’t know people were still racist against Italians. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised about leeharvey tho…scum.
In Finland, they are minorities. In Kenya, they are definitely majorities.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022Are 55% of babies born after 2010 in Finland and Kenya minorities?
Why are you debating a three word sentence? Lmaoleeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022And that is ok right? Does the Hill need "fixed"? Personally, I wouldn't live around so may spaghetti slurpers but thats just me.PeterXCV wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022It's The Hill.
Should I do a little happy dance because there is some black people living around?
I don't get all this diversity chat. It's actually totally normal and also completely unnecessary.
I don't see Finland and Kenya begging for diversity. They're fine. This is white American liberal garbage.
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No. I'm saying that minorities in those countries are beyond small because both are homogeneous countries. That's not the case in the US as evident by current minority babies being the majority of births in the last decade. That isn't the case in Kenya, there hasn't been a majority white babies born there in last decade or brown babies in Finlandgoat314 wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022In Finland, they are minorities. In Kenya, they are definitely majorities.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022Are 55% of babies born after 2010 in Finland and Kenya minorities?
In much of Europe (including Finland) immigration and non-native birth rates is what is driving the population growth. I believe I read that in much of Western Europe it is non-European descent people driving population growth, which some have linked to the rise of Neo-Nazi parties in much of the European continent.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 16, 2022No. I'm saying that minorities in those countries are beyond small because both are homogeneous countries. That's not the case in the US as evident by current minority babies being the majority of births in the last decade. That isn't the case in Kenya, there hasn't been a majority white babies born there in last decade or brown babies in Finland
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/fi ... -2021.html
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As of 2021 Finland is 96% white, 2.7% Asian, 1% African
Thanks for the shout out! I wrote the post. Took much longer to finally get it out than I had hoped, but a lot of interesting facets to the neighborhood level numbers!dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 15, 2022https://www.stlannex.com/blogs_2022/blo ... page-start
Good breakdown of 2020 vs 1990
City has gotten dramatically more diverse when you look at this 30 year period.
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Thanks for putting that together. That's a lot work.
I don't know where to start. Going back to my post about "diversity". My whole point is that, ultimately, it really doesn't matter in real life. Diversity does not make cities or life neither "good" nor "bad". Perhaps, because I grew up in American cities it's basically meaningless to me. I do not self-congratulate myself for living in a "diverse" neighborhood because that is all I have ever known. Places that are not diverse are just fine. Hello, Japan. And I mentioned Kenya and Finland. They are doing fine. It seems to be only white Western people who are obsessed with diversity. To me. it's just very weird. It's more of an exercise in useless academia. What's the diversity ratio? Things like that. That's all.
Also, I'm one-quarter Italian and still researching ways to move to actual Italy. So, yeah. I just wanted to say spaghetti slurpers because it seemed funny on a Friday evening after a few lagers. Sheesh.
I don't know where to start. Going back to my post about "diversity". My whole point is that, ultimately, it really doesn't matter in real life. Diversity does not make cities or life neither "good" nor "bad". Perhaps, because I grew up in American cities it's basically meaningless to me. I do not self-congratulate myself for living in a "diverse" neighborhood because that is all I have ever known. Places that are not diverse are just fine. Hello, Japan. And I mentioned Kenya and Finland. They are doing fine. It seems to be only white Western people who are obsessed with diversity. To me. it's just very weird. It's more of an exercise in useless academia. What's the diversity ratio? Things like that. That's all.
Also, I'm one-quarter Italian and still researching ways to move to actual Italy. So, yeah. I just wanted to say spaghetti slurpers because it seemed funny on a Friday evening after a few lagers. Sheesh.
Oh and an actual Census question. Are the final city numbers in? Not falling below 300K?
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We are 300,000 and probably more actually, census blew bunch of cities, and our neighbors to the east (Illinois) didn't lose population when the correction was madeleeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jul 19, 2022Oh and an actual Census question. Are the final city numbers in? Not falling below 300K?
"In a stunning reversal, the U.S. Census Bureau says it mistakenly undercounted populations in eight states, including Illinois, which means the Land of Lincoln saw nearly 250,000 new residents over the past decade and is now above 13 million people for the first time in Illinois history"
NextSTL - Regional Success in St Louis: 2000 – 2020
https://nextstl.com/2022/11/regional-su ... 2000-2020/
https://nextstl.com/2022/11/regional-su ... 2000-2020/
This is pretty interesting, and definitely surprising… too good to be true?
St. Louis at #11??
U-Haul Growth Cities 2022
https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/Us-Growth-Cities-Of-2022-Ocala-Tops-List-As-Families-Flock-To-Florida-28340/
St. Louis at #11??
U-Haul Growth Cities 2022
https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/Us-Growth-Cities-Of-2022-Ocala-Tops-List-As-Families-Flock-To-Florida-28340/
^Are they counting the City only, City/County, or the whole metro area?
^ All good questions. I’ve seen similar metrics from companies like United Van Lines…but they’ve never translated into large population gains for STL.
Sage Economics - Population Growth: Winners, Losers, & Charts
https://basu.substack.com/p/population- ... ers-losers
https://basu.substack.com/p/population- ... ers-losers
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You can get one hell of a house in Illinois right now. I've recently done it. Not metro East and not Chicago and not rural. Politics are horrible, taxes are horrible but it's cheap and doable.quincunx wrote: ↑Jan 13, 2023Sage Economics - Population Growth: Winners, Losers, & Charts
https://basu.substack.com/p/population- ... ers-losers
I just identify areas with potential, clean it up, gentrify it, live there a few years, cash out and move on.
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Illinois state income tax is lower than Missouri's.leeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jan 14, 2023You can get one hell of a house in Illinois right now. I've recently done it. Not metro East and not Chicago and not rural. Politics are horrible, taxes are horrible but it's cheap and doable.quincunx wrote: ↑Jan 13, 2023Sage Economics - Population Growth: Winners, Losers, & Charts
https://basu.substack.com/p/population- ... ers-losers
No personal property tax either, no earnings tax, and sales tax is lower than the STL area. In the end, most things even out. MO is not as cheap as most people make it out to be.
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Not only are Illinois’ taxes high, but they are also very regressive. And for how much Chicagoans like to look down at a red state like Missouri, they sure looked beet red when they destroyed Pritzker’s sensible income tax plan.
Illinois has a problem. It’s bleeding people without a good excuse (CA and NY can point to an insane COL). It’s position as a destination for immigrants (a primary driver of its growth the last 5 decades) is eroding in favor of places like Hou, Dal, Atlanta, DC, etc.
And the bottom 2/3 of their state (save for the metro east and college towns) feels completely alienated and wants to secede. And we feel this because it’s the Illinois side that’s really dragging down our metropolitan growth data.
Also, Chicago should have an earnings tax. That city runs a massive deficit even with the Biden bucks.
Illinois has a problem. It’s bleeding people without a good excuse (CA and NY can point to an insane COL). It’s position as a destination for immigrants (a primary driver of its growth the last 5 decades) is eroding in favor of places like Hou, Dal, Atlanta, DC, etc.
And the bottom 2/3 of their state (save for the metro east and college towns) feels completely alienated and wants to secede. And we feel this because it’s the Illinois side that’s really dragging down our metropolitan growth data.
Also, Chicago should have an earnings tax. That city runs a massive deficit even with the Biden bucks.
Which one is it DB?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 19, 2022We are 300,000 and probably more actually, census blew bunch of cities, and our neighbors to the east (Illinois) didn't lose population when the correction was madeleeharveyawesome wrote: ↑Jul 19, 2022Oh and an actual Census question. Are the final city numbers in? Not falling below 300K?
"In a stunning reversal, the U.S. Census Bureau says it mistakenly undercounted populations in eight states, including Illinois, which means the Land of Lincoln saw nearly 250,000 new residents over the past decade and is now above 13 million people for the first time in Illinois history"
You’ve previously argued that the traditional census is obsolete because modern estimating techniques are more accurate. Now it’s the actual census that’s more accurate?