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PostApr 28, 2021#676

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Missouri comes in with a resident population of 6,154,913, an increase of 165,986 from 2010, for 2.77% population growth over the last decade.

This is the lowest percentage increase in the state's history. 
The overall national growth rate from 2010-2020 was the second lowest in American history - the only decade with a lower growth rate since the first census in 1790 was between 1930-1940, entirely attributable to the Great Depression. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into the Missouri numbers - the whole country was growing relatively slow over the last ten years.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/cens ... a-release/

PostApr 28, 2021#677

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Missouri would benefit with a thriving healthy St.Louis.  I would think the city population right will be around 296,000 give or take either way it’s time to move on from the past and stop the excuse’s. Too me St.Louis Co & City are one big St.Louis there’s no barriers


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Exactly, I think for the efforts trying to be made on both sides of the states what is happening or should say happening from the middle of the state is truly one of the biggest issues.   
I think you can go down the list that Sc4mayor posted on cities that did very well in the last census and you could argue that their is state backing behind those cities.  Better yet,  you could argue that a lot of it is not so much about what political party but what investments are being made.   
St Louis and KC may have one arm tied behind back instead of a help hand from the state but still some unique opportunities.   St. Louis might be in a great shape to benefit immensely first from Covid Aid and then Infrastructure aid to ride progress in central corridor and start inching that progress north and south & second, get some semblence of a plan to bring calmness back to the streets with new leadership.   Previous mayor getting elected on family name on old school was simply a big step backwards in public safety and governance of servicers.  
By "previous mayor", I assume you're referring to Slay? I'm not aware of Lyda Krewson's family name having had any significant cachet in STL prior to her election.

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PostMay 04, 2021#678

2020 annual estimate
Stl City: 297,645
Stl County: 994,020


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PostMay 04, 2021#679

addxb2 wrote:2020 annual estimate
Stl City: 297,645
Stl County: 994,020


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You know what? I expected worse.

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PostMay 04, 2021#680

addxb2 wrote:
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2020 annual estimate
Stl City: 297,645
Stl County: 994,020


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That would be the lowest absolute decline (21,649) and lowest rate of decline (-6.8%) since the current trend started following the 1950 census. 

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PostMay 04, 2021#681

addxb2 wrote:2020 annual estimate
Stl City: 297,645
Stl County: 994,020


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Also where did the number come from? I don't see that on the Census site.

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PostMay 04, 2021#682

Seems in line with the trend... does anyone know if that 2009 to 2010 census update was catching up for what estimates were missed the prior years? Could that possibly mean that the previous few years (2018-2019) may have actually lower than what was estimated? 

2020 - 297,645 
2019 300,576 65
2018 302,838 64
2017 308,626 62
2016 311,404 61
2015 315,685 60
2014 317,419 60
2013 318,416 58
2012 318,172 58
2011 318,563 58
2010 319,294 58
2009 356,587 52

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PostMay 04, 2021#683

^What is the third column?

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PostMay 04, 2021#684

I think the 2020 estimate is just the annual population estimate that comes out once a year. It’s not an estimate based on the 2020 Census count.

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PostMay 04, 2021#685

kipfilet wrote:
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^What is the third column?
That's where the City of St. Louis ranks by population among US cities. 

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PostMay 04, 2021#686

sc4mayor wrote:
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I think the 2020 estimate is just the annual population estimate that comes out once a year.  It’s not an estimate based on the 2020 Census count.
Yes, no results other than the apportionment estimates have been released yet. 

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PostMay 04, 2021#687

kipfilet wrote:
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^What is the third column?
Sorry - was getting that from here: https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/st-louis-missouri

Just trying to see if you can draw any conclusions from that 2009->2010 vs the 2019->2020 jump. 

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PostMay 05, 2021#688

wabash wrote:
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addxb2 wrote:
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2020 annual estimate
Stl City: 297,645
Stl County: 994,020


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That would be the lowest absolute decline (21,649) and lowest rate of decline (-6.8%) since the current trend started following the 1950 census. 
I’d hope the rate would be getting better (less worse?), I figurewe have to be getting close to a bottom. How much more can clear out at this point?

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PostMay 05, 2021#689

Anyone know when the official 2020 census numbers for the city and county are going to be released?

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PostMay 05, 2021#690

^ I think the next detailed release is sometime this fall. Maybe around August.

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PostMay 05, 2021#691

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kipfilet wrote:
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^What is the third column?
Sorry - was getting that from here: https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/st-louis-missouri

Just trying to see if you can draw any conclusions from that 2009->2010 vs the 2019->2020 jump. 
My (very limited!) understanding is that the Slay administration pushed hard on the "Annual estimates" to make it seem like the City had stopped shrinking & was growing under their leadership.  But you can't really push on Census data, so when it actually got down to hard #'s, the number dropped dramatically.

Unless Lyda Krewson was doing the same push on annual estimates (and I don't believe they were because the 2010 numbers were an embarrassment for Slay after all the rah-rah with the annual estimates), I would expect the 2019-->2020 drop be much closer to estimates than the 2009-->2010 numbers. 

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PostMay 05, 2021#692

At shock value, the <300k number is bad.  However, I'd be curious for outbound/inbound numbers and each area of the city are doing by breaking the city into 3 large districts, North, South, Central Corridor(CC).  2 factors are going to hurt STL, diminishing size of families, and the emptying of NSTL.  NSTL is prolly as close to bottom as it can get, at least regarding population.  CCSTL is going to see growth, and SSTL is going to be a mixed bag.  SSTL has several hoods that are stable or very minimal loss of pop.  Other hoods with strong growth from '00 and '10 census.  But Dutchtown and surrounding will likely see large loss as both diminishing size of families and people with means to move will be doing so.  Further, Dutchtown is the most populous AND dense of all STL hoods and the most to lose unfortunately.  

So I am not as worried about the sub 300k number if it means most of the geographic area is doing well.  Further, I think NSTL will begin to see modest growth and investment that hasnt happened in prolly 50 years.  

However, I wonder if the financial state of STL is not better than the pop loss would otherwise indicate.  To me, this is more important as services like police, schools, fire protection, etc need to be enhanced for us to see any significant pop growth.  

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PostMay 05, 2021#693

Any sense of births and deaths? How many people passed away in the last decade?

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PostMay 05, 2021#694

Can the Biden Agenda Fix Middle America's Deepest Problem (population loss and economic decline)?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-agenda ... 22383.html

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PostMay 11, 2021#696

addxb2 wrote:
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Damn, Cairo/Alexander County are running out of people to run out of.

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PostMay 11, 2021#697

County consolidation is sorely needed in deep southern Illinois, as it is needed in many very rural areas.

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PostJul 09, 2021#698

This isn't census related so I'd take it with a grain of salt...but some interesting numbers just the same.

St. Louis gained thousands of residents during the pandemic, research firm says
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... sands.html
Glaser wasn't alone. Since Covid-19 shutdowns were first put in place, in March 2020, the St. Louis metro area has gained 8,400 residents, according to Unacast, a New York research firm that analyzes cellphone data. This year alone, St. Louis has gained 3,200 residents, which is above 2019 rates.

"That's quite a lot," said Thomas Walle, the company's CEO. 

Foot traffic in the region has also been resilient, rebounding to 81% of 2019 levels, Unacast said.
Unacast says it found that St. Louis' total income has fallen by $287 million since March 2020. 

But that figure has improved of late. After area income fell by $887 million from March through December last year, it's increased by $600 million so far in 2021, according to Unacast.

Compared with Baltimore and Denver, which grew by about the same number of people, St. Louis "has weathered things pretty well," said Scott Valentine, Unacast's head of content. Those metros lost closer to $1.4 billion in income last year during the pandemic, he said.

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PostJul 09, 2021#699

Good to see this part.

Though St. Louis hasn't performed that well, it has beaten out some other peers. This year, Kansas City has lost 15,800 residents, Baltimore 8,300 and Indianapolis 5,500, according to the company.

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PostJul 10, 2021#700

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-ci ... population

Seems as though the 2020 estimate for the city is 294,000. Haven’t read the article too closely but found it interesting, anyway. This number is also listed in Wikipedia in the Demographics section of the St. Louis wiki page.

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