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PostMay 11, 2007#1

From the St. Louis Business Journal:


Montgomery Bank has a $100 million plan to build a tower in the heart of Clayton, where it intends to move its headquarters from Sikeston.



The bank is finalizing its acquisition of five Clayton properties at the southeast corner of Central Avenue and Forsyth, across the street from the St. Louis County Police Department Headquarters.



The tower will have between 25 and 30 floors, with office, retail and residential components, said Joel Montgomery, one of the principals of privately held, family-owned Montgomery Bank and also its general counsel. The residential component could either be condos or a hotel, he said.



Planning is still in preliminary stages; the project will be presented to Clayton officials in the coming months, Montgomery said. Construction could start in 18 months.



A few of the tenants in the buildings the bank has acquired are World News, St. Louis Bread Co. and Bella Yoga. Two buildings it was acquiring this week house Wasabi, Pasta Plus and Jerome E. Glick Real Estate. "We have some tenants with existing leases that would require us to come to terms," Montgomery said.


http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stor ... 00^1460140

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PostMay 11, 2007#2

Why isn't this going into downtown St. Louis?



Plus: is there anything 30 stories tall in Clayton? I wonder if this is a high-end estimate and then get scaled back to 20 stories.

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PostMay 11, 2007#3

Good question - I'm sure Clayton seems like a safe choice. Downtown may be coming back in our minds, but this hasn't sunk in everywhere. Clayton is now connected to Metro - the stop will be a couple blocks from this development. I think there's a very large surface parking lot adjacent to this corner however. Why this can't be built upon first I have no idea. And 30 stories here will look huge as this may be the highest ground in Clayton. Good to see that there will be retail and maybe residential. The thing that kills Clayton streetlife are all the mid-rises without residential or any streetlevel retail.

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PostMay 11, 2007#4

The Plaza in Clayton is 30 stories, and as stated above, this lot is much higher in elevation than the plaza.



The empty lot is across from the jail and the court houses. Seems like the empty lot would be a better plaze to build, but maybe there is a stigma from the jail. It's also harder to get to with the urban plaza and the blocking off bonhomme.

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PostMay 11, 2007#5

Montgomery Bank is/was a small town (Sikeston) bank trying to graduate into the big leagues. They have one location in the city. The rest of their locations are in St. Louis County - the suburbs.



I am more offended that National City chose Clayton over downtown than this bank.



Anyway.......I have a feeling that a bank will be anchoring a new tower downtown in the future - U.S. Bank, BOA perhaps.



Let Montgomery build in Clayton. I am already anxiously awaiting the rendering as long as HOK doesn't get its paws on it.

PostMay 11, 2007#6

And oh, Clayton has been tearing down to build up lately and it is landlocked by subdivisions, roads and a highway. Even with MetroLink, traffic to and from Clayton - despite the new I-64 - will be a nightmare if the pace of development keeps up.



I don't think that bodes well for downtown Clayton in the long term.

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PostMay 11, 2007#7

Clayton does enjoy a well-centered location, geographically. Metro can handle a few thousand more passengers before it's over crowded and FPP can handle more too. Once I-170 and the Daniel Boone Expressway is done the city should be accessible. Hanley and Brentwood are a mess at rush hour, but what are we to expect? There's quite a bit of room in Clayton, especially if they insist on tearing down buildings like this and avoiding opportunities to build on surface parking lots. Clayton will grow, but will remain a second downtown because of its size.

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PostMay 11, 2007#8

^So true, I live a few blocks from DT Clayton and drive through the CBD almost religiously numerous times a day. Sure it can be really crowded but the only place in the general areas where traffic is truely TRAFFIC is south bound hanley south of clayton rd and north of 40. But in 3 years that will be all cleaned up. :D



I guess the only point to my ramblings is that although the Clayton area streets may be crowded, they are by no means gridlocked and surely could handle more comfortably.



I too anxiously await the rendering. This is just another project (now nearing 20) for me to add to the list when I say "Wait till you see Clayton/DT/CWE in 5 yrs." Except I've been saying 5 yrs for the last 5 yrs. That statement is met with frustration and much excitement. At the same time projects seem to be postponed, scaled back, or cancelled. So many structures have been built and rehabed and neighborhoods restored) and more seem to be announced every couple months or so. I'm glad to be in love with a city with enough momentum to keep me on the edge of chair.



I apologize ahead of time for my very poor grammar and run ons in the paragraph above as I am not proofing this.... gotta go.

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PostMay 11, 2007#9

Arch City wrote:Anyway.......I have a feeling that a bank will be anchoring a new tower downtown in the future - U.S. Bank, BOA perhaps.


Given that U.S. Bank and BOA already anchor towers downtown, how could this be construed as a Good Thing?

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PostMay 11, 2007#10

Grover wrote:Clayton does enjoy a well-centered location, geographically. Metro can handle a few thousand more passengers before it's over crowded and FPP can handle more too. Once I-170 and the Daniel Boone Expressway is done the city should be accessible. Hanley and Brentwood are a mess at rush hour, but what are we to expect? There's quite a bit of room in Clayton, especially if they insist on tearing down buildings like this and avoiding opportunities to build on surface parking lots. Clayton will grow, but will remain a second downtown because of its size.


My point is that as the downtown workforce/residential population grows, the more traffic is going to be a problem for downtown Clayton.



All of the new bodies (including potential ones for Enterprise) aren't going to be hitching Metro/MetroLink to work. Let's keep it real. Although we are a long way off, if the work/residential population keeps growing Clayton may find itself in a pinch.



I agree that MetroLink/FPP/I-170 improvements help and have yet to reach capacity, but my overall point is .... what will be next once they do reach capacity? They way they are building - or proposing - developments for Clayton and the surrounding area (Brentwood, RH) they need to be thinking about this now. This area is essentially landlocked with limited ability to widen roads.

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bonwich wrote:Given that U.S. Bank and BOA already anchor towers downtown, how could this be construed as a Good Thing?
In regards to the banks, they don't anchor new towers. Considering that downtown needs more Class A space under a single roof, it's not too far-fetched. A bank would be a good and easy anchor for a new project.



Granted U.S. Bank owns its building, the Mercantile Tower is how old now? 50? (Not really, I know), but it is aging. How many upgrades can it get? Same with Centerre Bank Plaza (aka Boatmens, BOA Tower). Looks good externally, but it is aging. BOA doesn't even own its HQs building.



I am willing to bet that if a developer came along with a sleek modern design and a good lease offer one these banks would be willing to relocate all or parts of their operations. It's done in other cities all of the time.

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I agree that MetroLink/FPP/I-170 improvements help and have yet to reach capacity, but my overall point is .... what will be next once they do reach capacity? They way they are building - or proposing - developments for Clayton and the surrounding area (Brentwood, RH) they need to be thinking about this now. This area is essentially landlocked with limited ability to widen roads.


I don't think that they will reach capacity. IMO there's enough already built to handle twice the current number of workers and residents currently in the CBD. If/when parking becomes more expensive a few more people will take metro - or move into a new residence in Clayton. I certainly hope that no ones thinking about widening roads - this would be a bad answer to a problem that doesn't, and won't, exist.

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PostMay 13, 2007#13

Grover wrote:I don't think that they will reach capacity.
It will reach capacity eventually - especially with additional developments, motorists, shoppers, residents and office workers. Not now, but eventually, just like most roads and highways. It's only logical.

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PostMay 13, 2007#14

^ I guess it depends what we mean by capacity - it may get to a point when there's a lot more traffic, but until it takes 30 minutes to get from Forsyth to 40 then I don't consider it to be at capacity. I think there would have to be 10 50-story towers to fill capacity for Metro trains and buses and drivers. Clayton is a long, long way from having traffic that would act to curtail development.

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PostMay 15, 2007#15

Hmm...



Well I see this as a positive. With the local bank buyouts and mergers in the mid and late 1990's (Boatmans, Mercantile, Mark Twain), the local ranks were thinned out a bit. But since that time, steady growth has added new smaller local banks to the mix. Adding another banking HQ, given the regions already decent collection of financial firms (AG Edwards, Ed Jones, Stiffle Nicklaus, Scottrade) is a good move. Sure I would rather have the HQ downtown, but given the choice between a new tower in clayton and this same bank going out to say 40 and Chesterfield Parkway, there is no contest that this is the better choice.



On an interesting side note, this makes me think again about the many positive effects of a City-County merger. Here we have a site right across from the St. Louis County Police Department Headquarters being developed to attract a new local HQ. if downtown isn't so attractive for new local and national office construction, Clayton sure is. While I am sure St. Louis County would balk at the idea, I can imagine a pretty sweet situation where a City-County merger allows the County offices to move downtown (i.e. think about the County offices use to develope the drab and empty Gateway Mall west of Tucker) and the current County offices and building in Clayton torn down and sold as prime development space to attract new regional and national offices to the area.

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PostMay 15, 2007#16

^ True. If the city would just desolve itself we'd be set!

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PostMay 17, 2007#17

dweebe wrote:Why isn't this going into downtown St. Louis?


^I wish. Coming from Sikeston, DT was just too much. Maybe Clayton is 'urban' without all the grit of 'urban.' After all, how many 'projects' are there in Sikeston?



Maybe after they acquire some other banks they can move into an 81-stroy building DT. 8)



Anyway, I'm glad to see them in STL metro.

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PostMay 18, 2007#18

New mixed-use, high-rise planned for Clayton

By Riddhi Trivedi-St. Clair

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

05/18/2007



If a local developer's plans come to fruition, a $100 million mixed-use, high-rise building may be built at Central Avenue and Forsyth Boulevard in downtown Clayton.



Joel Montgomery, managing partner in Webster Groves-based Montgomery Development LP, has acquired four properties along South Central and has one on Forsyth under contract.



Montgomery wouldn't disclose the purchase prices. But the St. Louis County assessor's website lists the one at 10 South Central as having sold for $850,000 on April 26, and the World News building at 4 South Central as sold in July for $1.75 million.



The deeds of the remaining properties have not been recorded, so the prices are unknown.



Montgomery is vice chairman and general counsel for Montgomery Bank of Sikeston, Mo. The bank, which is listed as the owner of the World News building, will have a 4,000-square-foot branch on the first floor. The bank's headquarters will remain in Sikeston, according to a news release issued by Montgomery.



"We had the opportunity to acquire the corner site, the World News building, and it made sense to assemble a larger tract to get something developed," Montgomery said.



The Central and Forsyth buildings will be razed to make way for a 25- to 30-story tower that may include some retail on the first floor, offices, and condominiums or hotel space. The project is still in the design phase and plans have not been completed, Montgomery said.



Montgomery hinted at the possibility of additional land to be acquired.



Montgomery, through his development company, has been involved in other projects around the metro area, including a strip center in Des Peres on Manchester Road that has Trader Joe's and St. Louis Bread Co. as tenants.



Montgomery said he won't build in Clayton until he has a certain amount of space leased.



"It won't be purely speculative. That is why the timeline is hard to predict," he said. "It largely depends on how quickly we can pull together a plan we think is viable financially and politically."



The property also would need to be rezoned before it could be developed.



"It's pretty exciting to pull this assemblage off," said Lynn Schenck, senior vice president of brokerage services for CB Richard Ellis in Clayton, who helped broker the deals. "The only building that was for sale was the World News one. The rest of them, we approached the owners and convinced them to sell."



In addition to World News, several businesses operate out of the various buildings, including St. Louis Bread Co., Pasta Plus, Wasabi and Jerome E. Glick Real Estate.



Tenants in the different buildings started hearing rumors about four months ago, said Carla Ounanian, owner of Pasta Plus, and it was confirmed about a week ago.



"I cried when I heard. This is my livelihood," Ounanian said of the business she and her husband have owned and run for 14 years in the same location. "It came as quite a shock. I am trying to find another location, but it is hard."



She has a lease until next year with an option to renew until 2010. Other tenants also have leases, which will need to be considered when charting a development plan, Montgomery said.



The developers are considering leasing space to some of the existing tenants in the new development, said Jim Schnurbusch, spokesman for Montgomery.



"It doesn't help us to hold the property without developing it. We are interested in developing it as quickly as possible," Montgomery said. "But we are not looking at delivering space in less than three years."



And that's if things go well. That leaves businesses like Ounanian's and Wasabi looking to relocate.



"I can't do that. We are a little mom-and-pop operation," Ounanian said. "We have been steadily looking since we heard the rumors, but we don't want to move out of Clayton. Our customers don't want us to leave, and it's hard to find something."


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument

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PostJun 02, 2007#19

If this goes 30 floors then it could top the 409 foot Plaza in Clayton building and become a new tallest for the city.

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PostJun 03, 2007#20

Clayton is definately ready for more office space. Centene has the jump on the market, but if they (Centene) lose their legal battle and drop their proposed tower, then Montgomery Bank could take the ball and really build big. After all, they've got maybe the best site in Clayton; right across the street from the County Courthouse.

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PostJun 04, 2007#21

This is a shame.



The office vacancy rate in St Louis has been at 20% since 2002.



This will cost St Louis Taxpayers money in the aqusition and building but even more in additional cost for services.



Clayton continues its careless growth on the back of taxpayers.



What a shame.

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PostJun 04, 2007#22

^Do you mean the downtown St. Louis overall vacancy rate? Or metro? Clayton is like 11%, while downtown St. Louis is just above 19%.



The overall metro vacancy rate is 13.5% at this time, according to Colliers.



**Colliers St. Louis Market Report**

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PostJun 04, 2007#23

The Curmudgeon wrote:This is a shame.



The office vacancy rate in St Louis has been at 20% since 2002.



This will cost St Louis Taxpayers money in the aqusition and building but even more in additional cost for services.



Clayton continues its careless growth on the back of taxpayers.



What a shame.


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Clayton continues its careless growth on the back of taxpayers.

PostJun 26, 2007#24

Just saw my first MBank commercial on the History Channel... guess they are preparing to more agressively target the st. louis market. Has anyone else heard any of their advertisements?

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PostJun 26, 2007#25

FOX 2 :shock:

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