Right there with you Dweebe and would add with way too many overpaid poor leadership a decade ago. It was pretty sad 13 years ago when we moved and assumed it has been stuck. Time to rethink, reorganize, start over but can't speak to present conditions but doesn't any better now.dweebe wrote: ↑Mar 07, 2023I'm going to say another nice thing outloud.: the St. Louis Science Center at Forest Park is a whole lot of "meh". I'd rather see it scrapped to get away from the poor leadership and weird layout. Then rebuild at the Post Office keeping the old building but tearing down the 1950's annex. I know we can't get a U-Boat and a mine, but try to get as close to Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry as possible.
Yikes. The McDonnell planetarium is iconic no way they should abandon it.dredger wrote: ↑Mar 07, 2023Right there with you Dweebe and would add with way too many overpaid poor leadership a decade ago. It was pretty sad 13 years ago when we moved and assumed it has been stuck. Time to rethink, reorganize, start over but can't speak to present conditions but doesn't any better now.dweebe wrote: ↑Mar 07, 2023I'm going to say another nice thing outloud.: the St. Louis Science Center at Forest Park is a whole lot of "meh". I'd rather see it scrapped to get away from the poor leadership and weird layout. Then rebuild at the Post Office keeping the old building but tearing down the 1950's annex. I know we can't get a U-Boat and a mine, but try to get as close to Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry as possible.
I think your idea is great and maybe a twist as Twain's Museum of Transportation & Industry considering the regions riverboat history, railroad and then MDBoeing presence in its place but probably a whole lot better locations starting with your suggestion. Who needs a Uboat, go all in a paddle boat(s), in the museum and a working one on the Mississippi or Missouri as you will probably need to have some tradeoffs with county. Heck, make it a working museum with a sponsored steam train excursions leaving Union Station (not sure if the dinner train is still going at it) and a working paddleboat on the river.
So was the dinosaur thing that came after the children’s zoo and before this. If you are a member you get a bunch of free passes to it.Tim wrote: ↑Dec 22, 2024The children's zoo cost extra too, so it's not really a new fee.
I’m pretty sure this is the same footprint, really maximizing the layout.symphonicpoet wrote:^Does this completely overlap with the old Children's zoo? It seems much larger. It feels like they are dedicating more and more space to extra fee stuff all the time. But maybe I'm just being crochety. Probably just residual complaints about the north county campus that will be free . . . to county residents. (Mind you, we still contribute to them anyway. And I encourage others to do so as well. I'm just complaining.) I wish them success and I will quit complaining now. Bah. Humbug.
If the footprint is bigger it is taking up areas that weren’t open to the public before anyway. But I’m pretty sure it’s the same footprint.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Dec 23, 2024^Does this completely overlap with the old Children's zoo? It seems much larger. It feels like they are dedicating more and more space to extra fee stuff all the time. But maybe I'm just being crochety. Probably just residual complaints about the north county campus that will be free . . . to county residents. (Mind you, we still contribute to them anyway. And I encourage others to do so as well. I'm just complaining.) I wish them success and I will quit complaining now. Bah. Humbug.
Yeah it seems to me like budget creep and since they can't just get more taxes they do these things. I assume the north county safari thing will be pay-to-enter as well. I don't mind if they are charging people for things but I wouldn't mind an audit every five years.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑Dec 22, 2024"Admission costs and other details for Destination Discovery will be available later." So this will be one more pay item, huh? This really disappoints me. I think the zoo has increasingly lost the thread of their mission.
Children's zoo was also free admission for the first hour of the day, same as the carousel and stingrays.
