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PostSep 07, 2012#176

Renovation with a major un-named retail tenant, and 50,000.00 sf of additional convention space - suppose to know moew soon-

http://www.news.stlpublicradio.org/post ... 20-million

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PostSep 07, 2012#177

^ Will be interesting to see where they want the additional space to be built. Under the shed?

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PostSep 07, 2012#178

Will also be interesting to see where they propose additional parking, which it will almost surely require.

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PostSep 07, 2012#179

beer city wrote:Renovation with a major un-named retail tenant, and 50,000.00 sf of additional convention space - suppose to know moew soon-

http://www.news.stlpublicradio.org/post ... 20-million
Walmart? The latest St Louis biz article notes that THF is involved in some fashion. Speculation on my part, but trying to think of what other tenants that THF would/could bring to table that would be different or has not had a presence downtown yet. Can't see retail/tenant who has set up shop and fail returning again just because it is Union Station.

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PostSep 07, 2012#180

^check out thfrealty.com - they do a lot of Walmart developments, but also Target, Home Depot, Bed Bath & Beyond, Best Buy...

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PostSep 07, 2012#181

They also said high end retailer. WalMart is bottom of the barrel. What about Ikea?

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PostSep 07, 2012#182

downtown2007 wrote:They also said high end retailer. WalMart is bottom of the barrel. What about Ikea?
I consider Ikea generally desirable but middle of the road retail. And no, Ikea is going in Fenton. At least that's what many Fentonites believe. :shock:

Anyway, I can't imagine true high-end retail going in Union Station. Whoever's planning that must be high themselves...

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PostSep 07, 2012#183

^ right - have to think "high-end" is relative in this case

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PostSep 07, 2012#184

I thought they kind of figured out that retail doesn't work there. What about a really conceptual residential development?

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PostSep 07, 2012#185

Alex Ihnen wrote:^ Will be interesting to see where they want the additional space to be built. Under the shed?
The article is kind of ambiguous, but wasn't there a previous plan a year or two ago to turn a portion of the mall into convention/meeting space?

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PostSep 07, 2012#186

^ Yes. The article mentions an additional 50k sqft of convention space will be added.

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PostSep 07, 2012#187

A thought, but wasn't a developer/Target pursuing a store near SLU off Forest Parkway. Can't think of the name of the old manufacturing place that the development was going to place, highly visible from I-64/Hwy 40.

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dredger wrote:A thought, but wasn't a developer/Target pursuing a store near SLU off Forest Parkway. Can't think of the name of the old manufacturing place that the development was going to place, highly visible from I-64/Hwy 40.
The Federal-Mogul plant? Would be great if someone did something with that place.

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PostSep 07, 2012#189

Wouldn't a big retailer feel hidden behind the station and under the shed?

Just a dream, but I'd rather the Museum of Transportation were there. At least then you could use more than one mode of transportation to visit the museum.

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PostSep 07, 2012#190

quincunx wrote:Wouldn't a big retailer feel hidden behind the station and under the shed?

Just a dream, but I'd rather the Museum of Transportation were there. At least then you could use more than one mode of transportation to visit the museum.
A major retailer would seemingly require extensive changes to the station; with its historic status and splendor, I fear any large retail will effectively kill Union Station as we know it -- or used to.

Yes, the Museum of Transportation makes the most sense and is most respectful to the building's history. And would really be a nice draw on top of it. To maximize it's effect, I would have a full twelve- or fifteen-car train stationed under the shed and pulled in right through the main concourse of the Midway -- all the way up to the Headhouse.

As long as they get rid of parking under the shed, I'll be happy. There's so much more you could do there -- an ice rink in winter, concerts/carnivals in the summer, beer gardens, art fairs. And, of course, the wild dreamer's vision -- a return to service from Amtrak, Metrolink and regional heavy-rail passenger lines.

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PostSep 07, 2012#191

downtown2007 wrote:They also said high end retailer. WalMart is bottom of the barrel. What about Ikea?
The story in the NPR site said "high profile", which doesn't necessarily mean "high end", KWIM?

As much as I'd love to see St. Louis get an IKEA, I don't think Union Station is a good fit. IKEAs have a pretty distinct "look" to them, and it's pretty much the opposite of Union Station. :-)

Personally, given the vibe of the area, I think a Century-21 ( http://www.c21stores.com/stores ) would be a good fit for at least part of the space, and it would draw people to the site. Unfortunately they're pretty NYC-centric, so I doubt that StL is on their horizon.

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PostSep 07, 2012#192

Good call - high profile is something else entirely.

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PostSep 07, 2012#193

No Ikea guys.

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PostSep 08, 2012#194

^ you have to give it two or three years and than drive to Richmond Heights, unless your brave enough to play chicken with traffic coming and going from the Brentwood metrolink stop. But then again, it will probably still be easier going to the new Ikea than Dierbergs :)

Always thought McKee would have a shot at landing Ikea in one or two places, in North Park or next to Union Station with a rebuilt 22nd street interchange. Just don't see it with the Richmond Heights development plan in action.

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PostSep 08, 2012#195

stlien wrote:No Ikea guys.
So what is it?

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PostSep 08, 2012#196

gary kreie wrote:
stlien wrote:No Ikea guys.
So what is it?
It will be revealed soon.

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PostSep 08, 2012#197

^ Super Wal-Mart? Bass Pro Shops?

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PostSep 09, 2012#198

^ Maybe he can throw us a bone, it has to be a stand alone tenant of some sort. Dare to say it is an eatery/mid size entertain place at this point - Like a BJ's, mayboe someone who got tired waiting on BPV or trying to negotiate with Cordish.

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PostSep 10, 2012#199

A massive flagship "Everything's a Dollar" store?

-RBB

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PostSep 10, 2012#200

Applebee's

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