^ based on your methodology I believe you have an open job opportunity awaiting you at Morgan-Quinto!
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bpe235 wrote:The Central Scrutinizer wrote:This is St. Louis. We're more likely to get a pickup truck race.
Actually, it seems that very few people in STL drive pickup trucks. I only have one friend who drives one, and that's because it's his work truck.
Head on down to the State streets!
The Central Scrutinizer wrote:This is St. Louis. We're more likely to get a pickup truck race.
true, but it's nice to dream. i liked the bike race they moved to Washington ave last year, but the crowds were pretty thin.
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I think a Hindi/Indian movie theater would be cool. I know there are plenty of places that already show foreign films but one devoted exclusively or at least heavily to south asian movies would be cool. There's one in Fremont, CA(bay area) and they sold Indian concessions and all. It would be the only thing of its kind in St. Louis so it would definitely draw people downtown. I'm dreaming here but if it started snowballing like some Indian restaurants around it and it could really turn into a cool district that would be something more to do downtown. It's depressing how Indian immigrants don't seem to consider the city at all.
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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:This is St. Louis. We're more likely to get a pickup truck race.
I was thinking that but in St. Charles.
The St. Chuck Ford F-250 Racing Series:
i read in the dispatch that Missouri will be hosting a large cycling event later this year with some big names in attendance most likely... i wonder how we managed this feat...
With the heroic efforts of committed individuals, the same way anything worthwhile happens.what4 wrote:i read in the dispatch that Missouri will be hosting a large cycling event later this year with some big names in attendance most likely... i wonder how we managed this feat...
The Tour of Missouri stage race ends in St. Louis with a circuit race, but I haven't heard whether it will be in the tradition of Europe's grand Tours and feature urban centers and landmarks. Here's hoping...
i'm pretty pysched about this... it's not the 24 hours of lemans per my prior suggestion above, but i'll take it. the race should cut through FP and end under the arch somehow... something akin to the tour de france where the riders end up around the champs elysees. that would be some great exposure for stl.
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what4 wrote:i'm pretty pysched about this... it's not the 24 hours of lemans per my prior suggestion above, but i'll take it. the race should cut through FP and end under the arch somehow... something akin to the tour de france where the riders end up around the champs elysees. that would be some great exposure for stl.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we're talking about a bicycle race - not exactly the Indy 500 here. Sure, there's some good riders - but honestly, does anyone follow bicycle racing besides the Tour de France? The Tour DuPont barely makes page 9 of the sports section, and it's my understanding that's the biggest bike race here. The world series and final 4 brought 10x more attention to the city than this bike race will bring to the whole state. It's a nice thing for us to pin to a wall, but I don't think ESPN is gonna cover this one, sorry to say.
What??? You mean bicycle racing isn't as popular as baseball? Well, that squashes my excitement for it all, then.migueltejada wrote:Hate to be the bearer of bad news...
I'd rather the 18 people who see it on Versus (OLN) have a positive impression and consider visiting or living here than we get a onetime flood of regional tourists. Every little bit helps, and MLS teams and bike races may not draw Wal-Mart-scale numbers, but they're steps toward convincing "creative class" students to give our city a shot before immediately running off to Chicago or a coast to start their careers.
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The Tour DuPont barely makes page 9 of the sports section
The Tour DuPont on page 9?
That's impressive, especially considering that the race was last run in 1996. With your obvious wealth of cycling knowledge you're probably smack in the middle of the Tour of Missouri's target demographic. 
Let the people who will enjoy the event, enjoy it. There will be some positive media coverage in national and international cycling magazines and possibly something in the local business journals about sponsorship. All-in-all it's really a positive.migueltejada wrote:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we're talking about a bicycle race - not exactly the Indy 500 here. Sure, there's some good riders - but honestly, does anyone follow bicycle racing besides the Tour de France? The Tour DuPont barely makes page 9 of the sports section, and it's my understanding that's the biggest bike race here. The world series and final 4 brought 10x more attention to the city than this bike race will bring to the whole state. It's a nice thing for us to pin to a wall, but I don't think ESPN is gonna cover this one, sorry to say.
sheeesh... your point is well taken, but don't mistake my enthusiasm for naivete. where did i say that this would bring more coverage than a final four, world series, or indy 500 anyway? every bit counts as someone said before. how often do we get a final four or world series anyway? if this turns into an annual race, it will be a nice coup for not only stl, but our whole state.
p.s. the tour de georgia and tour of california are the top races in america btw.
I'd like to see a new bar by the stadium, ideally ground floor of some great development in the lot just east of Busch (entrance Broadway and Poplar).
Three sections to the place each with their own bar. Each section would represent the three eras of Cardinal baseball by stadium. One for Sportsman's Park/Busch II/Busch III. The decor for each section would correspond: oversized photos of great moments from each time frame, the most notable players, framed jerseys from the years in that park, evolution of the logo, and various shots of the stadia themselves.
Pub style signage would be temporally appropriate as well. (i.e mostly block print "Budweiser" ads in the Busch II vs. current Cursive in the III area).
Three sections to the place each with their own bar. Each section would represent the three eras of Cardinal baseball by stadium. One for Sportsman's Park/Busch II/Busch III. The decor for each section would correspond: oversized photos of great moments from each time frame, the most notable players, framed jerseys from the years in that park, evolution of the logo, and various shots of the stadia themselves.
Pub style signage would be temporally appropriate as well. (i.e mostly block print "Budweiser" ads in the Busch II vs. current Cursive in the III area).
Water themed recreation area for hot summer days.
The running man fountain in Keiner plaza and the stone steps water fall are not as interactive as I would like. It's kind of dangerous to to walk on those steps when they're wet. The running man has all this jet power but you can't play in it.
I'm thinking something that kids and adults could use to play or cool off. Crown Fountain in Chicago's Millenium Park is nice water feature that attracts both kids and adults.
http://mocoloco.com/art/archives/plensa_a_sept_05.jpg
The running man fountain in Keiner plaza and the stone steps water fall are not as interactive as I would like. It's kind of dangerous to to walk on those steps when they're wet. The running man has all this jet power but you can't play in it.
I'm thinking something that kids and adults could use to play or cool off. Crown Fountain in Chicago's Millenium Park is nice water feature that attracts both kids and adults.
http://mocoloco.com/art/archives/plensa_a_sept_05.jpg
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1 word:
ACQUARIUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!
we dont need another stupid 20 million dollar sculpture park or place for the dogs to go poop. kthx.
ACQUARIUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!
we dont need another stupid 20 million dollar sculpture park or place for the dogs to go poop. kthx.
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This is a pretty long thread and I haven't read all of the ideas here so excuse me in advance if I am repeating anything someone has already said.
To me, all of these wishes and creative ideas are great but they aren't really addressing the underlying problem Saint Louis and many large cities have.
If the real goal of Saint Louis is to once again become a world class city the first step in that direction is to make the area a free trade zone. That of course seems to rattle the cages of many peoples minds but for Saint Louis it is the best way to go.
Initially we can never compete with cities like Chicago and NYC because they have such large populations but we CAN attract more business to Saint Louis than many other cities by doing that alone.
Does anyone really think Las Vegas is the countries fastest growing city just because you can gamble there and buy whores? No, the reason is that Las Vegas is extremely business and tax friendly.
I also think Saint Louis city could be in a unique position to do something like that because of the geo-political position it has. As it's own city and "county" declaring the city a free trade zone would simply be a matter of the will of the residents and the politicians to do it.
If you increase your business you increase your tax base. Saint Louis will be bigger and better and a trend setter that will be hard to follow.
To me, all of these wishes and creative ideas are great but they aren't really addressing the underlying problem Saint Louis and many large cities have.
If the real goal of Saint Louis is to once again become a world class city the first step in that direction is to make the area a free trade zone. That of course seems to rattle the cages of many peoples minds but for Saint Louis it is the best way to go.
Initially we can never compete with cities like Chicago and NYC because they have such large populations but we CAN attract more business to Saint Louis than many other cities by doing that alone.
Does anyone really think Las Vegas is the countries fastest growing city just because you can gamble there and buy whores? No, the reason is that Las Vegas is extremely business and tax friendly.
I also think Saint Louis city could be in a unique position to do something like that because of the geo-political position it has. As it's own city and "county" declaring the city a free trade zone would simply be a matter of the will of the residents and the politicians to do it.
If you increase your business you increase your tax base. Saint Louis will be bigger and better and a trend setter that will be hard to follow.
More storefronts-- second and third story--with big open vistas.
Dining and shopping should be right up to the window and people on the street should be able to look in.
Macy's should open up some exterior window spaces like this. Many downtowns have spaces like this. It seems that most in St. Louis are closed up and express a subconscious antagonism.
Dining and shopping should be right up to the window and people on the street should be able to look in.
Macy's should open up some exterior window spaces like this. Many downtowns have spaces like this. It seems that most in St. Louis are closed up and express a subconscious antagonism.
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A downtown mall?
Me and my wife visited and wanted to find a nice mall to look around in, and couldn't find anything.
I'm sure thats been said at least 3 times in this thread.
Me and my wife visited and wanted to find a nice mall to look around in, and couldn't find anything.
I'm sure thats been said at least 3 times in this thread.
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Juice13610 wrote:A downtown mall?
Me and my wife visited and wanted to find a nice mall to look around in, and couldn't find anything.
I'm sure thats been said at least 3 times in this thread.
For some failed reason, I doubt it's been said by anyone on this forum.
an urban mall downtown.. hmmm. St. Louis Center and Union Station? one failed and one is well....
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I'd like to see a farmer's market on Saturdays during the summer in the green space on Market Street. I know we have Soulard Market, but bringing something like that right downtown would be wonderful and would be a very good use of the green space. I seldom get to Soulard, but I'd sure go to a downtown farmer's market!