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Why does their phone number have a 972 area code? Didn't they set up a local office?

Thanks for the link, AC. I hope that at least some of the retail will appeal to students - it would help bridge the gap between SLU and the CWE.



Now if someone would just buy and replace the Rally's at Lindell and Vandeventer...That area - with the triangle park - could be really impressive if not for the prominent fast-food restaurant.

I would bet that Rally's is one of the most profitable stores in the franchise.

There is also a lot of redevelopment potential between SLU and Sarah south of Lindell, especially along Pine and Laclede.

does anyone know who the architect is for this project or seen any more realistic renderings for this? the website rendering looks like a schematic sketch. I'm a bit unimpressed with what we've seen of the design... Seems a little hodge-podge. Too many unrelated things going on, almost as if two designers started at two ends and crashed in the middle. Others have commented on the suburban look of the multiple gabled rooftop elements which I agree is out of place. And has anyone noticed the solitary bay window just to the right of the balconies w/ the gabled roof? This only happens once? There are a lot of little details that are nice on their own, but overall the sketch looks like an unorganized cluster. Surely this has been refined.

However, aesthetics are all subjective and people grow accustomed to their surroundings and take them for granted. I think land use/ planning is the most important aspect to a building as that directly affects how people live and use space. So this project is great on that issue. Mixed use residential on top of retail with good density and adding to street vitality & walkability.

Maybe I was lazy and didn't read earlier in this thread, but how is parking handled? Please be structured parking...

I think it looks GREAT.

^ I love the density and lack of surface lots facing Lindell. I'll be interested to see what happens on the south side with the myriad of strange buildings across from the Lindell Marketplace. And do whatever you want to Rally's, as long as the Del Tace on Grand stays!

More than towers, I think it is this type of development that will knit STL back together. I love it.

Agree on the Del Taco. Love that funky drive-in. I also love the old Arby's sign on Lindell.



This project is what should be done to the eastern portion of Lindell Marketplace!

I agree this is the perfect type of project to "knit STL back together" as Expat put it. I was commenting on the particular aesthetics as being too jumbled...

You've got some nice clean looking areas with large curtain wall glass areas trying to be contemporary/ moderist(?), yet that large cornice piece is tacked on and some of the street level retail has rustic looking stone (faux historic?), and lastly the center section with gabled roof galore trying to be a suburban apartment complex.

This same project type at Park East Lofts is a more aesthetically successful. One look was decided on and they went with it!

Okay, quick and dirty-

I modified the rendering with a little more consistancy

(and I only harshly criticize this because I want the best for STL!)

^ which of the last two images is more recent? The gabled peaks along Lindell are gone in the second! Much nicer, IMHO.

grover--

that's something I just photoshopped

but I agree an improvement!

Why does their phone number have a 972 area code?

Because they like Dallas?

grover--

that's something I just photoshopped

but I agree an improvement!

That's cruel.

ha!

sorry, I don't mean to be...

guess I was a little underwhelmed by the look of that project, plus I am a little bored at work today

^ the missing gables ruined it for you?

^The success of this building will put development pressure on the nearby underused property. For instance, fast-food restaurants could move into the first floor of similar mid-rise buildings. Let's hope.

^ I was just about to post that... or maybe the fast food venues would just close. The fewer fast food options the better in my book. (our city is fat enough as it is)

Expat wrote:^The success of this building will put development pressure on the nearby underused property. For instance, fast-food restaurants could move into the first floor of similar mid-rise buildings. Let's hope.

Especially the Arby's - it doesn't have a drive-through.

^ v funny - I still remember my dad thinking that this was the most rediculous thing he'd ever seen - an Arby's without a drive-thru!? (We're from Indiana)



I do hope they keep the sign - it could be attached the side of a new building - put on the corner of a new location etc.