Kingshighway and Maryland Straub's

soulardx · Post5:06 PM - Jun 17#12026-06-17T17:06+00:00

Not sure where else to put this, but the CWE Straub's has been listed.

https://www.cbredealflow.com/handler/mo ... 4oDbQ#_top

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html

Story doesn't say a whole lot, but whenever I am in there, it's not all that crowed. (Unlike WF)

framer · Post5:27 PM - Jun 17#22026-06-17T17:27+00:00

Does the form based code affect that lot? Should be one of the top sites in the area.

soulardx · Post5:29 PM - Jun 17#32026-06-17T17:29+00:00

framer wrote: ↑
5:27 PM - Jun 17
Does the form based code affect that lot? Should be one of the top sites in the area.

no idea!

It's probably a pipe dream but I think a Trader Joes would do quite well there.

Post6:49 PM - Jun 17#42026-06-17T18:49+00:00

More info here:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/bus ... r_stltoday

most salient item: "Straub's president and CEO Jack "Trip" Straub said that the store — a neighborhood staple since 1948 — will continue its normal operations while the building is on the market."

beer city · Post3:17 AM - Jun 18#52026-06-18T03:17+00:00

Well that would be a great spot to redevelop, not going to lie - If they are not interested in reopening a store in the CWE it would suck. That meat and seafood counter is unmatched. The grocery business is tough, margins are super thin.

tztag · Post9:34 PM - Jun 18#62026-06-18T21:34+00:00

Agree, huge loss regardless of the proximity to Whole Foods

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StlAlex · Post10:13 PM - Jun 18#72026-06-18T22:13+00:00

Massive gain if this could be redeveloped into something more like the Whole Foods' development.

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BarryGlick · Post10:54 PM - Jun 18#82026-06-18T22:54+00:00

the new Fresh Thyme/Sprouts?

dylank · Post2:47 PM - Jun 20#92026-06-20T14:47+00:00

soulardx wrote: ↑
5:06 PM - Jun 17
Not sure where else to put this, but the CWE Straub's has been listed.

https://www.cbredealflow.com/handler/mo ... 4oDbQ#_top

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... louis.html

Story doesn't say a whole lot, but whenever I am in there, it's not all that crowed. (Unlike WF)

I think they are fishing the possibilities. Maybe they catch a high rise developer. The site is roughly 35,000 sq ft. ($100 sf).

Maybe they work with a developer to be a part of its podium.

framer · Post4:52 PM - Jun 20#102026-06-20T16:52+00:00

That's why I'm curious about the zoning of this site. Would a high-rise even be permitted?

Chris Stritzel · Post4:54 PM - Jun 20#112026-06-20T16:54+00:00

framer wrote: ↑
4:52 PM - Jun 20
That's why I'm curious about the zoning of this site. Would a high-rise even be permitted?

This site does not fall under the form based code. I imagine you could get away with a Citizen Park sized building on that site. Not a bad size.

rbb · Post3:41 PM - Jun 22#122026-06-22T15:41+00:00

Here's a theoretical view from ~20 stories up (as low as I could get using Google Maps) of Forest Park from over the Straub's lot:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6456433 ... FQAw%3D%3D

And here's looking towards Downtown:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6457266 ... FQAw%3D%3D

A view to the south would be largely of the Chase Park Plaza and the Barnes Jewish complex behind it:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6460425 ... FQAw%3D%3D

And a view to the north overlooking Holy Corners:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6453103 ... FQAw%3D%3D

-RBB

tztag · Post6:52 PM - Jun 24#132026-06-24T18:52+00:00

Shelves are already emptying out, I’ll be surprised if they stay open that much longer.

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soulardx · Post7:16 PM - Jun 24#142026-06-24T19:16+00:00

tztag wrote: ↑
6:52 PM - Jun 24
Shelves are already emptying out, I’ll be surprised if they stay open that much longer.

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that's rather sad but not un-expected. with other locations still open, can't imagine they'll be discounting any wine. lol

dylank · Post2:04 PM - Jun 30#152026-06-30T14:04+00:00

Straub's is not emptying shelves, btw. they had a power outage, so they had to remove everything from the freezers. (Everything is back now).

Staff and management said they are open for the foreseeable future.

ikazy1 · Post8:56 PM - Jun 30#162026-06-30T20:56+00:00

Thanks @dylank for more accurate information. Nice to not hear a bunch of speculation. I was a cashier at Straub's as a teenage. It was a convenient job that I could walk to when I was 16 years old and saving to purchase my first car. Land value has continued to increase in the area and this is a prime redevelopment site for higher land use/productivity. Ideally, a new developer would build a 15 story or greater building with street level retail for Straub's to return and operate.

tztag · Post12:18 PM - Jul 01#172026-07-01T12:18+00:00

That would be a fantastic outcome for sure.

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soulardx · Post2:58 PM - Jul 01#182026-07-01T14:58+00:00

dylank wrote: ↑
2:04 PM - Jun 30
Straub's is not emptying shelves, btw. they had a power outage, so they had to remove everything from the freezers. (Everything is back now).

Staff and management said they are open for the foreseeable future.

this forum could use a like/thumbs up option. LOL

Anyway, consider this comment a like/thumbs up, dylank.

tztag · Post1:51 AM - Aug 05#192026-08-05T01:51+00:00

I knew about the freezer issue, net is that they are slowly reducing inventory. I’m in there every other day. Really hoping they stay, they will have a lot of new customers when the Albion opens. Does anyone know the max height allowed on that lot?

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Post7:56 PM - Sep 08#202026-09-08T19:56+00:00

This is such a bummer…. From Biz Journal:

Straub's Markets plans to close its Central West End location later this month, the local grocery chain announced Tuesday.
The store at 302 N. Kingshighway Blvd. is scheduled to stay open through Sept. 25, or until its remaining inventory is sold.

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StlAlex · Post8:14 PM - Sep 08#212026-09-08T20:14+00:00

Hopefully the buyer has big plans for his site. Straub's was pretty bad land use.

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tztag · Post8:27 PM - Sep 08#222026-09-08T20:27+00:00

I nice 10 story apt building with a grocery store on the ground level would be lovely.

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JaneJacobsGhost · Post9:49 PM - Sep 08#232026-09-08T21:49+00:00

Sucks but not surprising given the Whole Foods and Fresh Thyme. Unless you’re looking for like veal or something, not much reason to go to Straub’s over Whole Foods. Also, location isn’t great.

tztag · Post12:00 AM - Sep 09#242026-09-09T00:00+00:00

Location is pretty great if you live north of Lindell

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addxb2 · Post11:52 PM - Sep 09#252026-09-09T23:52+00:00

What does the CWE code allow on this lot? Seems like a great lot and opportunity to extend the growing CWE skyline.